hotandsticky

On 11/5/2023 at 3:05 PM, Negita43 said:

My partner has a 10 year UK Visa obtained in 2015 she used it for trips to the UK/Europe for a few years then came Covid - for the last two years she has spent almost the full 180 days in the UK each year (using it also as a base to travel to Europe also). We have never had a problem at immigration although as some have said the whole area of what "time envelope" the 180 days is in is very murky. What amazes me is why UK Immigration would think an educated, financially independent, property owning Thai would want to live permenantly in the UK. My partner is Thai through and through and although she likes to travel she would not want to live anywhere but Thailand.

You understand that there are many Thais who don't see it that way. Yes, they love Thailand, but they have used their education and skills to carve out a much better standard of living in the UK. 

1 hour ago, John Drake said:

 

I'd say it's objective is to get people to visit Thailand. I'm already here. Failure.

I would say the objective is to get people talking about the subject matter   - Success.

30 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Ok, not saying you are wrong, but if he go to same office for extension? Can´t that then be a problem if the same guys in the crackpot are there?

No......from personal experience at Jomtien.

I ignored the 3 month appointment (I had a piece of paper with the appointment on). I did, of course, make sure that 800k remained intact for those 3 months.

Absolutely no issues when it came to do myextension.

1 hour ago, giddyup said:

Everybody should be aware, but was he? Or perhaps he thought he'd just get a years ban and be on his way. Hence the deterrent factor, if you don't pay you go into detention until you do. You replied that no, you couldn't see this.

I replied on the basis that knowledge of the fines is sufficient deterrent in itself  -  nobody would willingly want to pay 20,000 Baht. 

If someone is not aware of the overstay penalties then they must be very stupid and deserve what they get (even though detaining anyone remains pointless IMO) . Everybody gets a stamp in their passport on arrival and they know their permitted to stay date. 

1 hour ago, hotchilli said:

Embassies will not get involved, they over-stayed, broke immigration law and therefore must face the music.

They certainly will not get involved in negotiations for fines to be paid at a later date.

If Immigration turned a blind eye to exiting  tourists who overstayed, every back-packer in the country would extend their holiday and turn up skint at the airport, setting a precedence that no fines are applicable.

Immigration will never do that... nor should they.

 

Nobody mentioned turning a blind-eye (1 day overstay perhaps). The overstay rules are clear and any fines should be paid.

I am talking about getting the visitor out of the country asap, detaining people helps no one from a practical point of view.

It is not beyond the wit of the authorities to agree a methodology of charging the fee to the home country, who in turn recover it from the individual after his return. I think it should be a home country issue and not something that the Thais have to deal with by way of detention.

3 minutes ago, giddyup said:

Sorry you don't understand what "deterrent" means. Try a Google search.

Don't be an idiot - of course I do.

This is not a deterrent in isolation. Everyone should be aware than overstaying carries the risk of detention if you are 'picked up' by the authorities. 

That has never applied to people at the airport who cough up their 500 Baht a day/20,000 Baht. If they can't do that then detention is a known consequence. That may be the case here because if he had the ability to pay the overstay he would not have been detained.

4 hours ago, hotchilli said:

The point is you have over-stayed and therefore will be fined..

turn up at the airport pleading poverty doesn't cut-it.

That is a given.

My point is about it being a waste of time and resources for the authorities and an unnecessary inconvenience for the Farang. IF it was simply a case of someone exiting the country with overstay - I am sure that there could be reciprocal arrangements for payment with the miscreants embassy. Surely, the Thais will want such a visitor out of their country asap.

As I said, I feel that there is more to this situation than has been reported.

7 minutes ago, Lucky Bones said:

Guessing you don't live or spend time in a small village?🙃🙃

He might.

I understand that some villages are missing an idiot.................

Which Immigration office do you deal with.

6 hours ago, giddyup said:

You can't see the deterrent value?

No...and we don't have the full story. Everybody already knows that if you get picked up on overstay you are detained.

I think there is more to this story.

4 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

My thoughts too.... pay the fine you fly..

not pay you stay.

i really can't see the point in that. It benefits no one.

3 minutes ago, Brickleberry said:

 

That is precisely what I said, 400k there is no need to show where the money comes from. Why are you saying I'm completely wrong?

Because he likes to do stupid things like that.

I can't decide whether to put him on my ignore list - because he is wrong SO many times, or keep him live for the entertainment value.

9 hours ago, ChipButty said:

It's happened a few time recently It used to be get to the airport pay your 20,000 and they were good to go, now they are getting arrested and taken to the police station, so that would mean they also miss their flights?  

You are assuming that he had a flight. I didn't see any reference to that in the news report.

He could have been the Russian guy who was begging when I was there in September.

Just now, paulbrow said:

For me, retirement is my preference. Solely due to me and only me having control over my extension. Marriage can allow wife to have influence on my extension if she decided to do so.

It also means you have to take your wife to Immigration - which is not necessarily a good combination.

Some expats think that they need their wives to hold their hand - even with a retirement extension.

On 11/3/2023 at 8:53 AM, Raindancer said:

Having read every post, I still have a very simple question.

 

If you already have a TM30 from immigration, do you need to go online to register.  I did my registration by handing it in to CM immigration some years ago.

 

Why, according to some reports that all manually obtained TM 30s must now be re registered on line, and that existing TM 30s are no longer valid.

You are OK with CM Immigration..

This thread was started about the Jomtien office and specifically about a local newspaper report that you now needed a 'current TM30 receipt' if you were doing any business with Immigration (ie 90 day report, re-entry permit etc). 

By current they mean dated AFTER your most recent entry into the country. That was never necessary before if you were returning to the same address.

On 11/4/2023 at 1:33 PM, retarius said:

I am aware that not everybody gets scammed, but those that do are usually using mobile apps on phones linked to credit or debit cards. Personally I wouldn't bother about 8000, it's simply not significant to me, but it is the ball ache trying to get recovery. And I cannot explain to myself why banks would be the only institutions in Thailand that are not thoroughly corrupt. 

Do you post this cr4p just for the sake of trolling?

5 minutes ago, Mike Lister said:

Expect lots of pollution from crop burning.

In Siem Reap ?

I have never experienced any noticeable pollution in 30+ visits, at various times of the year. 

February should be OK; it starts to get warmer and more humid in March -usually a degree or so higher than neighbouring Surin and Buriram provinces. 

The last time I was there in August 2022 it was obvious that the Covid recovery was taking time - it was a pleasure nor having hoards around when visiting Angkor Wat. 

Just go for it - any possible pollution can be mitigated by glasses of Angkor beer @ 50c in and around Pub Street.  23 years is a long gap, things will have changed.

41 minutes ago, MrPancake said:

 

Says the guy named hotandsticky.

It's a meteorological reference......................😉

42 minutes ago, bignok said:

Mostly factual until 2010. Most would have died young. High risk lifestyle. Aids, crime, violence.

It is now 2023 so it isn't.......I think we can probably agree on that.....

5 minutes ago, bignok said:

Historically he would be correct but with better drugs now less so.

He obviously watched Philadelphia and based his bigotry on that.