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Thait Spot

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  1. Police are soooo weak!! Scary. To fail to protect/ secure polling stations, seems like Yingluk doesnt really want the vote to hapoen?? Strange. She knew this outcome.

    So it is Yinglucks fault, that the erand-boys for the Elite aka Sutheps undemocratic mob is preventing the Thai people from exercising their democratic right??

    What are you going to blame her for next?? The cold wheater?

    Some posts here are beyond stupid!!bah.gif

    He's right. Its a gross dereliction of duty.

    I'm pretty sure the press will see it that way too.

    SoE, all the resources at hand from the police and armed forces and this happens.

    Poor poor governance

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  2. This is what happens when the police don't do their jobs.

    RT@Juarawee: RT @doctoruprising: Confrontation in Ladkrabung - PDRC vs. pro-election group RT@SutiwasHong pic.twitter.com/7JoCU2rLJp

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    YES!! I was actually just going to post this very photo. THIS is what needs to happen. Everyday regular people who want to VOTE need to rise up against Suthep's thugs and administer non-lethal violence. This is the only way these entitled jerks will back down.

    A swift whack to the shin or a strong poke to the stomach with a piece of wood will be enough to send the hi-so madams running home, never to dare to protest again. Steel bars are, unfortunately, probably needed to fend off the "nak leng" thugs (mistakenly often called "guards")...

    If his thugs are the 300 baht/day paid guards, would you fight for 300 baht? The picture doesn't show any actual fighting, it shows angry voters with sticks. I think a lot of these protestors won't want to fight for that pittance.

    Now we know the EC can't use 'worry of violence' as an excuse to cancel the election, they can clear the polling stations and let them vote.

    Are you for real?

    The EC's concerns about violence were well founded

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  3. The election now and Feb 2nd is a waste of money again. If the voting is done in february it will be unlawful because of the lack of candidates or similar. The shinaclan is losing ground all the time.

    Apparently you're not concerned about the law protecting a citizen's right to vote.

    More importantly it doesn't seem that the police are...

    I wonder why.....

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  4. What a banana republic... Who is supposed to protect voters and make sure they exercise their right to vote?

    Unbelievable.

    The police are moving now on one mob.

    The fascist spokesperson for PDRC is bleating on Twitter that they are being attacked. Big cheer went up all down Rama 3 area when MCOT showed the PDRC getting a kicking.

    Might be a lot more of this if they not careful

    " Big cheer went up all down Rama 3"

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  5. here is what the people should be doing. Since the Amry and police will not protect their rights to vote

    RT@Juarawee: RT @vasu_TRnews: Pro-election protesters couldn’t hold in anger, assaulted a PDRC protesters at Ladkrabung District. pic.twitter.com/VeeKqCFAhf

    Thugs worshipped by thugs like you.

    How very appropriate

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  6. Nowhereman60, on 25 Jan 2014 - 09:45, said:

    ‘‘It would be better if you do not go out because you will find we have taken over the polling stations,’’ Mr Suthep told voters.

    Once again Suthep is trying to intimidate voters.

    He is a thug; as simple as that. Somebody who is destroying the country and the lives of millions of people who are being denied income.

    What people?

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  7. The Court's ruling gives the PTP and Yingluck the perfect political tool. They just declare that the next elections will occur whenever Suthep agrees to a date that he can guarantee peaceful voting. He won't, and the PTP / Yingluck remain in control of the Government for an indefinite time. And short of a violent overthrow of the Government, Suthep remains outside of the legislative process with no political power.

    There are more holes in that than a second hand sieve!

    The rice farmers will have either died of hunger or murdered the caretaker cabinet and the government will be the equivalent of a dead horse with all 4 legs chopped off

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  8. How do you think the other poor farmers feel? Those in the south. Those that grow other crops.

    I do feel sorry for the rice farmers but they have received preferential treatment

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    Sorry, but I don't see how that is relevant to the current topic. Have those farmers not been paid for their crops as well?

    Those farmers are just as impoverished but had no opportunity to sell at vastly inflated prices to the government.

    Why? Location, location, location

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  9. Maybe the rice farmers should have saved a little from the previous over priced crops ??

    But that would be asking far too much...

    Whilst I feel for them because they are being royally screwed, to some extent they deserve it..

    If you lay down with dogs you get up with fleas. If the farmer sold their rice through the normal channels then they wouldn't get as much but they would be paid already. It was their choice to join this corrupt scheme, that defrauds from the tax payer and now they get a taste of the bitter rewards, that's Karma.

    It has been clear for some time that the rice scam was unsustainable. PTP admitted this, but caved in to their farmers support base when they objected to curtailing it. Now that it is collapsing under a mountain of debt, I am asked to feel sympathy for those involved in a criminal conspiracy to direct tax dollars into their bank accounts.

    Sorry, no sale.

    Some of you positively make me sick. You talk about fair play, equality, democracy and yet condemn and say just desserts to the poor farmers who are merely trying to build a better life for themselves and their loved ones. Shame on you.

    And to that poster that mentioned karma, be careful what you wish for.

    How do you think the other poor farmers feel? Those in the south. Those that grow other crops.

    I do feel sorry for the rice farmers but they have received preferential treatment

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  10. Apart from the (usual and boring) bad mouthing, does anyone have any realistic and reasonable suggestion as to how the farmers can be paid? Or are you lot saying that the farmers should not be paid?

    The big problem here is the massive amount of money that is needed. High rice crops now need 180 billion - Six billion USD.

    Due to the restrictions that are in place, the government cannot do anything that will increase the burden on the following government and this puts them in a predicament.

    The easiest way would be to sell 15 million tonnes at market value but with the government having shown that they are not very good at selling rice and having put those people who were out of a job, I don't see this option being viable.

    Looking to borrow the money might be the quickest solution but could see the government banned.

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  11. Despite Khaosod's utterly gratuitous last sentence, the EC has indeed constitutional authority. The Constitution Court has affirmed it, and Khoasod - and the administration - was wrong. The Yingluck administration said that the EC did not have the authority. They also insisted that a delay was unconstitutional. The Constitution Court ruled that assumption was wrong. And the administration - and Khaosod - should get over it. The Yingluck administration - and Khaosod - have egg all over their face. How's that for a Khaosod headline ?

    As the Constitution Court says that the EC and the administration - jointly - have the power to delay, it obviously means that the administration will simply keep on their path, dictate to the EC or ignore it completely, and forge ahead. A terrible decision - but it's Pheu Thai - one can't expect them to suddenly be cured of their inclination to make terrible decisions. So the election goes ahead. In Udon Thani it will be a roaring success, and likely will go smoothly through at least most of the North. But the bets stop there, and it's anyone's guess what's going to happen elsewhere. But even if the whole thing went without a hitch, the numbers add up to a quorum-less parliament before it even starts. There is no endgame for the administration. And in the interim, there is an unprecedented lack of consensus in the country, a great deal of unrest, and an unlawful caretaker-imposed emergency decree, as the Yingluck administration is determined to exit the stage by delivering a good, swift kick to the media.

    The constitutional court and the elites are one and the same making this up as they go along, and so are you.

    I beg to disagree. This outcome was blindingly obvious to anyone who bothered to consider the constitution.

    Just the fact that any election date is announced by the sitting government, after agreeing with the electoral commission, was the great big clue.

    Neither the government, caretaker or otherwise, or the electoral commission have the right to unilaterally decide on an acceptable election date.

    The election date must be agreed by both parties.

    The constitution court has merely reaffirmed this and sent it back to both the government and the EC to reach agreement.

    That the caretaker government has continually refused to discuss setting a new election date, is definitely more questionable and, in effect, contrary to the constitution.

    I actually think that the CC's decision is a prelude to further intervention. The CC has suggested that the caretaker government 'may' wish to start discussing an election delay with the EC, but the EC has been calling on YL to meet to discuss the matter for weeks, and has been ignored.

    Yl has now been told that her objection to such a move, that she might be charged with failing to do her duty, has been removed, so she can cancel the election without any fear of prosecution.

    If YL refuses to recognise that what the CC has actually done is to offer her a face-saving way out of the current impasse, then the next step will probably be for the CC to advise the EC that they have the power to unilaterally delay the election, citing the intransigence of the caretaker government as sufficient grounds to warrant such a move.

    Very possible.

    Equally the elections could turn into a gong show or collapse in violence and its time for the big khaki reset button

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  12. PCAD claim that their protests are 'entirely peaceful' but the EC expect widespread violence on the day of the election. They can't both be right. Clearly the EC believes PCAD to be a terrorist organisation bent on subverting an election by violence.

    Personally I think the predicted violence would be like Suthep's Big Bangkok Shutdown - a big flop. Roll on the election.

    That depends on what other nasties turn up doesn't it?

    Or are you getting bogged down in your own propaganda?

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  13. Assuming Suthep were to get his way, what do you think would happen next?

    Do you think the people from the North and Isaan will embrace the changes that will be made in favour of Sutheps buddies.

    I very much doubt whether Suthep and his backers have thought about the consequences and how they would deal with them, other than passing the buck to the military.

    Regarding the disquiet of the rice farmers, I believe many blame the protestors in Bangkok for the non payment.

    Have you met Chalerm and his sons?

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  14. bkkjames, on 24 Jan 2014 - 14:55, said:bkkjames, on 24 Jan 2014 - 14:55, said:

    I will go on record and suggest turn-out will be much lower than the poll. Maybe JT can do a Poll about the Poll?

    On the contrary, I believe that more people will turn-out so they can cast a NO vote as to make these elections null and void.

    Assuming that there will be an election...........

    When have you seen a demorcatic election ballot ask whether you agree with the election? An election ballot is used to VOTE for a candidate. If you want to spoil the ballot, ie., right remarks on it, etc., that's your right but it just doesn't get counted. Spoiled ballots do not void an election.

    You are wrong in this case.

    A Thai ballot has a NO option

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  15. When the music sops the person holding the parcel will have to do a very un-Thai thing, make a decision. In this case there are two holding the parcel, YL and the EC.

    The Constitutional Court tossed this hot issue back by saying the election could be postponed it did not say it has to be / must be / even should be.

    YL will want it to go ahead and the EC does not so what next and who will prevail ? I honestly can't see the two sides reaching a reasonable accommodation, I'm sure the election will go ahead and prove nothing.

    It just doesn't look good.

    If anything the dems might get accused of sabotaging democracy.

    What's in a name huh. The democrats who don't play democracy.

    Mai Khao Jai, not same countlee me.

    I've always been suspicious of any party, country etc that uses words like democrat, democratic or peoples' etc. For example Lao PDR, Peoples Republic of China, North Korea and various countries in Africa and elsewhere. They couldn't be more opposite than the name implies.

    Phua Thai

    Thai rak Thai

    Mmmmmmm.

    I think not

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