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Suthep thinking, "How can I keep spinning this out till the Army come in and make good on their coup promise. I am getting tired."

He looks very healthy actually - lots of fresh air, sunshine, and long walks are good for the body. Maybe if more expats did that....lol

Yingluck!

while farmers with no money gets credit card, for the average expat that does not have a WP, it is as good as impossible, even with millions of savings in the bank, to get one ...

thainessssss

Because the thai farmer is not likely to do a runner and leave his balance unpaid, like the average expat is...

When the farmers rise up and turn on PTP - then we will have real change - until then, it is just marking time...

Just a publicity stunt by the rich elite of Pheua Thai but it may work with the gullible. -"Look! Pheua Thai are helping the farmers whilst the Democrats are just obstructing them!

it will help, and it got a lot of airplay on no suthep media as well. All helps!!

as will the educated BKK thai elite who were in the background engaging them in intelligent debate.

Peeeppp sayeth the Suthep

peeeeep peeep peeeep peeeeeep !!! sayeth the flock

Since the GSB has cancelled the interbank loan, it can't possibly help. When are you going to rejoin reality?

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Sorry it is difficult to grasp.

The pic is of Government people putting money in a bank that WAS trying to help famers until PDRC scuppered it. Pic and vid also clearly showPDRC people whisling, booing and generally trying to prevent the money going to farmers.

might not affect you, but the imagery is spectacularly good for the Government.

this is how things work in the real world, picture paints 1,000 words etc.

If you think anything about this entire situation has been "Good" for the government, you are deluded.

We can only wait and see who wins at the end.

For the sake of the Thai people, I hope the right outcome will take place.

Enough killings, enough injuries, time for more constructive and politically mature thinking.

When peaceful revolution is made impossible, violent revolution is made inevitable.

Thaksin sh$ts, Pheu Thai wipes...

Symbolic resignation only as Worawit is still there, he is said to be acting president for 30 days (according to law ?)

Any bets he will be reinstated after 30 days ?

Only took 2 posts before Suthep got slammed this time, the red loonies are improving, the boss will be pleased.

"the red loonies" ( loony's), So Robby nz, you think the "peaceful protesters" that threw the bomb and blew the leg off a policeman is a loon? how about the one that shot and killed the policeman, is he a loon also?

There is now way that some of these protesters are peaceful mate and who is leading them, The biggest loon of all using farmers as political pawns, first threatening banks if they give loans to the gov for farmers payments then after advice back-flipped and said banks should give loans,

The protestors did not throw a grenade, it was reported by a police officer that the police threw it. It was later reported that the police had an accident and the grenade went off.

Quit spreading lies! alt=bah.gif width=19 height=19> The question should be why did or do the police have grenades? Aren't those weapons of war?

Huh? CNN filmed the bombing as it happened. They were standing in the back of the police and filming forward. It doesn't appear that the police had anything to do with throwing grenades. CNN also reporting that there was live fire coming from the protesters before the police opened fire.

Are we talking about yesterday, or the 2010 Red Shirt riots? I can't tell

I actually respect this guy. He is Thai and he takes responsibility for his actions. Quite rare in this country. He should run for office, they could use someone with his morals.

That is one interpretation - another is that he is a paid Thaksin lacky, doing as he is ordered, and taking the fall for his master's stupid order....

I don't understand any supposedly educated foreigner harbouring support for these facist thugs. Suthep is so clearly incapable of objective thought or action. He is backed by the middle and upper class elites who want to wrest power from the rest of the 'lo-so' nation. Everything they have done has been anti-democratic in any sense of that term.

Do you really, sincerley believe that corruption in Thailand began and ended with Taksin? Seriously.

Even after witnessing that clown Dr Serri telling the foreign journalist that 'he should find out about Thailand before having an opinion'(unless it is in keeping with his own) do you still think the protesters are doing a good thing? Most of the crowd don't know either as they are merely paid peasants from the south.

How can it be a 'people's revolution' when Suthep and the leaders sleep in the Dusit Thani and Inter-continental hotels and the 'people' sleep on the street?

It is clear that Yingluck's government have made some mistakes but they are fighting against yellow supporting civil servants and government quangos that foil their intentions at every move.

If the democrats were not so bent they would have been re-thinking their plans and mustering support all the time that yingluck has been in power and then entering democratic elections in which at today's turn of events they may have even won their way to power fairly and squarely.

Sorry, there is no other supposition to be made in relation to their failure to do this than to assume their motives are heirarchical and insular and their methods rooted in privelige and favour and executed with sloppy, disrespectful insouciance. How very 'ruling party' Thai of them.

Let's get Suthep in gaol, create a new party to oppose Pheu Thai and beat them democratically ( and before anyone rings the bell about vote buying, they all did it)

Irony, thy name is the TV red shirt - an exercise in fun, as follows:

I don't understand any supposedly educated foreigner harboring support for these facist thugs. Thaksin is so clearly incapable of objective thought or action. He is backed by his own lower and upper class elites who want to wrest power from the silent majority. Everything they have done has been anti-democratic in any sense of that term.

Do you really, sincerely believe that corruption in Thailand began and ended with Suthep? Seriously.

Even after witnessing that (insert various RED Clowns here) telling the foreign journalist that 'he should find out about Thailand before having an opinion'(unless it is in keeping with his own) do you still think the protesters are doing a good thing? Most of the crowd don't know either as they are merely paid peasants from the northeast.

How can it be a 'people's revolution' when Thaksin and the leaders sleep in Dubai and international hotels and the 'people' sleep on the street?

It is clear that Abhisit's government have made some mistakes but they are fighting against red supporting civil servants and government quangos that foil their intentions at every move.

If the PTP servents were not so bent they would have been re-thinking their plans and mustering support all the time that Abhisit has been in power and then entering democratic elections in which at today's turn of events they may have even won their way to power fairly and squarely (without cheap populist promises that are filling their pockets).

Sorry, there is no other supposition to be made in relation to their failure to do this than to assume their motives are hierarchical and insular and their methods rooted in privilege and favor and executed with sloppy, disrespectful insouciance. How very 'ruling party' Thai of them.

Let's get Thaksin in jail, create a new party to oppose the Democrats and beat them without vote buying ( and before anyone rings the bell about the rice scheme, yes it was a bad idea)

So here is the "evidence" of Yingluck's "negligence":

1) she had been warned by many organisations of POSSIBLE massive damage and corruption in the scheme.

2) the scheme COULD cause massive corruption in every stage of the process.

3) she was asked to review and halt the programme had many irregularities and corruption.

4) rice farmers who entered the program have not yet received payment and are now in serious financial difficulty.

5) she was negligent to duty by continuing with the program which resulted in severe damage to the country.

This is simply without any apparent concrete evidence and looks more like a political assination attempt. Even some of the anti-graft panel members appear to have a conflict of interest (aka corruption) as being financial supporters of Suthep's anti-government protesters. The major "witnesses" are current or former Democrat party supporters with no supporting accounts from anyone in the current administration or unrelated third parties. There is mention of "documents" but no details have been disclosed. From a 3rd party perspective there may be enough to question Yingluck about alleged corruption, maybe even enough to charge her, but until there is more hard, unbiased evidence to collaborate her "negligence" (which would not be criminal in any event), I don't see how she could be held guilty. But even if she was found to be negligent, does that just mean she just promises not to be negligent in the future and continues on as PM?

A true believer - you would have been right at home in the Manson Family.

I'd like to know how many of you Suthep supporters posting on TVF have actually been to the protest sites, or are you just calling it in from the UK or States? How many of you have had your wife frisked while leaving a BTS station (National Stadium) by some kid that knows more about Yaba than who the PM is? Nothing but pure thugs and scum. These are the kind of people that would be doing this no matter who was in the opposition or the government. This is nothing but a great opportunity for these creatures to give meaning to their lives, in their own eyes, that is. Suthep is just using them to do his dirty work, and if he ever does get into power he'll probably throw them all back in jail where they belong.

Well, after reviewing my post, I realize I left three other major groups of protesters out. Aside from scum and thugs, there are:

• The lazy arzes that enjoy a good opportunity to sit around and complain while getting paid 500 baht per day.
• The weekend warriors, or Bangkok middle class that comes out on Saturday afternoon with kids in tow.
• The street vendors, who also don't care who is in charge.

If you actually came here and experienced a protest, you'd see how ridiculous backing these people is. Thank God the protesters are not the majority, or none of us would set foot in Thailand. Suthep and the democrats want to side step the democratic process because they know they will never, never, never win a majority, legally, and that's really what it all boils down to - end of story - period. Corruption is on both sides, and this is not the way to fix it.

Do you understand that you could substitute Suthep for Thaksin and be talking about the 2010 Red Shirt riots? Or is that lost on your simple world view...

@kikoman

You said

Well, 3 people have been killed now, one policeman and two protesters on BBC it said the police went in to take over the rally site armed with shields and batons and were met by live gun fire ,one policeman dead, 4 wounded.So the fascist started the gun fire.

You are the one that needs to wake up, someone needs to buy you a calendar, Sonny it is 2014, not 2010 you are talking about the wrong battle. those Pattaya LB have fed you the wrong line!

cheers

Me

I've just read the BBC website and it says no such thing. Where did you get that BBC line from?

Try looking at the BBC world news channel 89 on satellite TV

I have watched the news, with a report by J.Head and then an interview with him and he says no such thing. The report does show some terrible violence on both sides. The grenade attack being utterly horrific, whoever threw that needs to be found and punished according to the law. Likewise anyone who fired on the police.

However at no point did anyone claim that firing was started by the protesters. The actions of those who used violence today is criminal and disgusting. However when tensions are at the point they are now it is important that we all stick to the facts that are being reported.

Asking TV red shirts to stick to facts...thats a funny one Spunk

Chalerm and Yingluck are to be blamed for this.

Well martial law is imminent now and there will be more deaths. These are unarmed policeman against armed protestors. You need your head checked out. Or aren't the pics of the dead enough for you. Suthep started all this and he should be held accountable. The administration has been very reluctant to resort to violence or haven't you noticed?

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Similar to when the red shirts started killing the unarmed soldiers at the beginning of the 2010 crisis, which escalated quickly - but I digress, and you apparently are incapable of grasping the irony of your words LOL

While i do not like Suthep all that much, I give him credit - he is out on the front lines, risking assassination, for his cause. He is not a coward running from water bottles, or cowering in his palace in Dubai. I hope he wins, on shear moxy alone...

You forgot he is also surrounded by 10-20 armed guards and a freverent devoted crowd of followers who have shown they will turn to violence even when it came to blocking civilian voters from polling places.

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Another point that the courts in Thailand are on the side of the Democrats. Nothing really surprises me about this country which is turning itself in a kangaroo country with kangaroo courts.

Does that mean you are a kangaroo?

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Suthep is to blame for this , he is a raving idiot, It is obvious that the firing is coming from the protesters, if the Police were doing the shooting Why is one dead and at least 4 or more wounded, Thai news stated 29 some were injured at noon, did not say which sides.

It is time for the rule of law to be enforced, let the army do what they may!.

Suthep is to blame for this , he is a raving idiot, It is obvious that the firing is coming from the protesters, if the Police were doing the shooting Why is one dead and at least 4 or more wounded, Thai news stated 29 some were injured at noon, did not say which sides.

It is time for the rule of law to be enforced, let the army do what they may!.

No Thaksin is to blame for this, see we can continue this name blaming for eternity. It is quite apparent from photos and news footage that the majority of the injured are not police, so are you stating protestors are hurting fellow protestors.

And here they blame Thaksin once again.

RIP to the two death. In Hamburg - Germany, over 300 protesters were injured when they cleared the streets last month.

Bangkok at least have been a lawless city in the last few months. It's time the government takes control back of the city.

No thanks - they can't even stand up to water bottles, they have no business running a country.

why feel sorry for the farmers,,,they could have sold out at the correct price...paid on the day

greed got the better of them...

12 baht on the day 20 from the government pledge,, like playing poker,you should now when to stack....

the government shafted them...now they cry like babies...

at 20thb a kilo is was well above the going rate,,they new that,,,and thought this scheme will make us very rich...

most of the big farms have over 100 rai....the land price is around 12million thb...for that...so not poor at all

FAIL:

Although the mean size

of rice holdings (28,5 rai) is close to the national average, 37% of rice farmers are operating small

holdings of 15 rai or less. Marginal holdings (5 rai or less) considered as "near landless" holdings

represent 9% of total holdings. Region wise, the Northern region has proportionately larger holdings

than the Central Plain and the Northeast. The distribution of land operated is quite unequal: 66% of

farms operate only 36% of the land area.while the top 2,3% of farms operate 13,6%.

SOURCE: http://horizon.documentation.ird.fr/exl-doc/pleins_textes/divers09-03/41564.pdf

And where on earth you get 120,000 baht per rai of rice farming land from I'll never know.

So the majority are poor... Only the bigger land renters are not poor, and they are not the ones complaining.. they don't grow the rice.

Thanks for the large font - it means you have a big penis when you post that way...

While i do not like Suthep all that much, I give him credit - he is out on the front lines, risking assassination, for his cause. He is not a coward running from water bottles, or cowering in his palace in Dubai. I hope he wins, on shear moxy alone...

If the protesters could be counted by tens or hundreds of thousands on the different sites, we could legitimate their action. Irrespective of any political color or opinion, when a few dozens of people literally "highjack" several key crossroads and sites in the city for weeks, then I find legitimate that the Police (finally) takes action to free access to these key crossroads and sites. This must have come to an end and in Thailand - like in other countries - protests are often dispersed with some violence and strong action. This time - as expected - it went wrong because of armed people shooting at both civilians and protesters. The promised Bangkok shutdown did not happen, so Suthep and his troops should find other ways to demonstrate - peacefully. Blocking crossroads has no more legitimacy, just look at the number of protesters in all sites, pure and simple fact. An illegal protest can be legitimated by the number of people, but that's not (anymore) the case here; so it becomes an illegal (State of Emergency) annoyance. No partisan propaganda here, just rule of law. Or else anybody with a small group of people could occupy the streets at any time... I can understand that people are tired of Thaksin regime, no doubt about that. But protesters need a new Strategy to mobilize both people and attention.

You do realize the irony of your statement, in relation to what the red shirts did in 2010, right? (or is that too complicated for you?)

If the protesters could be counted by tens or hundreds of thousands on the different sites, we could legitimate their action. Irrespective of any political color or opinion, when a few dozens of people literally "highjack" several key crossroads and sites in the city for weeks, then I find legitimate that the Police (finally) takes action to free access to these key crossroads and sites. This must have come to an end and in Thailand - like in other countries - protests are often dispersed with some violence and strong action. This time - as expected - it went wrong because of armed people shooting at both civilians and protesters. The promised Bangkok shutdown did not happen, so Suthep and his troops should find other ways to demonstrate - peacefully. Blocking crossroads has no more legitimacy, just look at the number of protesters in all sites, pure and simple fact. An illegal protest can be legitimated by the number of people, but that's not (anymore) the case here; so it becomes an illegal (State of Emergency) annoyance. No partisan propaganda here, just rule of law. Or else anybody with a small group of people could occupy the streets at any time... I can understand that people are tired of Thaksin regime, no doubt about that. But protesters need a new Strategy to mobilize both people and attention.

You do realize the irony of your statement, in relation to what the red shirts did in 2010, right? (or is that too complicated for you?)

Yingluck is stupid - if you support Yingluck you are also stupid. End of story.