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a bit of a tangent i know, but it involves corruption, i was talking to a lady last night who has just opened a ligit massage parlour (no happy ending) and the first thing that happened is the police chief has come along and she has to pay 20,000 baht a month, to him. YEP its in Bangkok.
A Thai talkshow reported how much money/assets some of the police chiefs has... It's hundreds of millions baht... you think they got that from saving their salary?
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Dos and Donts of being a tourist.
Go where you won't be killed and then treated like garbage by the locals and the police.
Avoid this place forever and you don't need to be blamed for being a victim by morons.
Tourists are not the main victims of Thailand .. Normal Thai people are the real victims.. They are the ones that are most likely to suffer in the hands of the BiB and the corruption. That's probably why they're so many on CSI LA
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Word on the street is these guys were also driving the Ferrari that ran over and killed a cop in Bangkok.
Yes, I heard they found some of the war weapons that was used against protesters last year in Win and Zaws apartments.
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There's talk in thai media about the suspects having been suffocated with plastic bags over their heads / faces ... human rights group that have spoken to the suspects or suspects lawyers claim this is the case as well.
The National Human Rights Commission of Thailand, a government agency, has claimed that two Myanmar suspects in the Koh Tao murder case had been tortured and forced to confess to the killings, including suffocation with plastic bags.
British backpackers David Miller, 24, and Hannah Witheridge, 23, were found dead on the popular holiday island last month.
Thai police alleged that two workers from neighbouring Myanmar, Zaw Lin and Win Zaw Htun, both 21, committed the murders. Police said they have obtained confessions as well as DNA evidence from Witheridge that matches both suspects. The men have been charged with murder, rape and robbery.
However Dr Niran Pitakwatchara, Commissioner of The National Human Rights Commission of Thailand, said: "We spoke to the two suspects on October 13. They have given us believable statements that allude to the fact that they were tortured and forced to confess. But our information comes from the medical investigation team."
In response to these allegations, Surat Thani police said there has been no abuse of the suspects and questioned where the Commission got their evidence. Police also maintained that a confession was irrelevant at this point as they already have enough physical evidence linking the suspects' DNA to Witheridge.
The two men charged have now withdrawn their confessions, and UK authorities are pursuing their own independent investigation into the case following an online petition by the British public. Representatives from the Myanmar Lawyers Association will meet with the suspects' Thai lawyers on Tuesday to deliberate on the case. -
Man I would pay to watch the police chiefs etc to take lie detector tests hahahah
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The UK must take DNA samples from the scapegoats parents and compare with their own samples from the victims bodies.. They should be able to do this without PM permission..
If they have nothing to hide, why not take the samples directly from the suspects? An honest police department would welcome confirmation.
An honest police department... hehe ..
Let's remove dishonesty from the RTP resumé for a short thought experiment ... what we are left with is a mixture of incompetence, inaccountability, unprofessionalism ...
So, the honest, but incompetent and unprofessional RTP that never have been held accountable for a single act of their entire lives .. why would they fear someone coming in and questioning them... .. did i answer that for you? Oh, and add dishonesty and corruption to the mix and it's beyond obvious
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Add to that Nomsods father was allowed onto the crime scene. One has to question why he would be there and what was he doing. Very strange. Does he often help the police on crime scenes or only when his son is involved..
Actually, I don't think that was Nom Sods father, but a member of the local mafia. .. either way, your point is valid... The guy allowed on the crime scene was the one Sean McAnna photographed and claimed that he was threatened by........ PROBABLY involved in the murder or atleast the cover up.
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Nom Sod refused DNA ..
Nom Sod does a pretty odd thing with one of his arms/hands when he walks
The guy captured running on CCTV does the same thing with his arms/hands when he walks as Nom Sod.
The guy captured running on CCTV has the same haircut and nose as Nom Sod.
Nom Sods girlfriend posted on instagram september 15 and 16 that he was missing.
Nom Sod went through all the trouble to get CCTV footage from his Condo to prove his innocence,, instead of just providing a DNA sample.
CCTV footage provided by Nom Sod looks fake.
Nom Sod claims that he was so upset by the murders that he skipped school on september 15 and 16.. Yet he refused to provide DNA sample to clear his name.
*edit* Some classmate of Nom Sod allegedly claims that when Nom Sod returned to school he had scratches and marks around his neck... This is ofcourse just rumors and could easily be bullshit.. but who knows.
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How many times do I have to tell you that all your negative comments towards the RTP are making them SAD!!
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Ofcourse they are not embarrassed, being embarrassed would be embarrassing.
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Now someone arrest the police chiefs that have hundreds of millions
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Uk police should compare their dna samples with those of the scapegoats parent. They should be able to do that without setting foot on Thailand.
If they dont have their own dna samples from the victims bodies all their work will be pointless anyway.
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...but they already have two suspects, matching DNA AND confessions
They also have confession from Martians about who killed JFK.
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The UK must take DNA samples from the scapegoats parents and compare with their own samples from the victims bodies.. They should be able to do this without PM permission..
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Actually this will go away regardless of the outcome and big deal the UK is watching (a lot less than you think), looks like Thailand invited them to come watch. While this is a big thing to some it really is not to most. There has been around 40,000 murders around the globe since these occurred. People's memories are short as is the press.How many people are still glued to the missing Malaysian Airline news and the 250 people missing on it?He also told reporters that Cameron expected the British public to "take some more time to understand this matter".
How about "it will take some time before Thai authorities understands that this will not go away and the UK is watching and ............. judging"
As for tourism, this will not have any measurable impact and actually will probably increase tourism to Koh Tao in the coming years as it put it on the map and made people aware of it who otherwise might not have.
You are one sick individual.
And you add nothing of value. He is right. This will be forgotten. And there's no such thing as bad publicity.. A year from now or sooner people will just remember the name Koh Tao and think "holidayy!!""
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No matter what is said, they will hear what they want. And what they want is anything they can use or twist to help them handle their feelings of inferiority in Thailand by putting on a false sense of superiority towards in Thailand with more money and power than them actually pretty much anyone in Thailand down to the much more financially challenged Thai who as an example get to pay a couple dollars less to go to places like their own State Parks.What seems clear in many of these folks posts is that they are not motivated by a desire to see justice for the victims but rather to display and promote an anger towards Thailand and a desire to see Thailand suffer.
It is as a clear cut case they got the right people in this case as it was for the train rapist murderer of the young girl .... initially suspects wrong, over looked the right person, conflicting stories in the press, confession, DNA match, friend's testimony and so on. But didn't see anyone then suggesting sending money to the suspect as I have seen with this case. They don't want to see justice, they want to see Thailand be proved wrong to help themselves feel good.
B$L%S41T. You are out of touch with reality. This is not about Thailand being wrong this is about a cover up of the real killers.
Was somebody else seen by numerous people near the murder scene at the time as well as captured on video who confessed to the crime and whose DNA matched and who had a victim's belonging located at their residence?
And I never said it was about Thailand ... but clearly to some posters it is about their need and desire to see Thailand look bad. You only need to read their posts to see this.
Go to CSI LA on facebook (you may have heard of facebook). Notice how it's 95% thai people there .. and they are many.. and they think the real killers are protected by police and mafia.
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I'd like to have the British Police 'Observing' the results of a few polygraph Lie- Detectors in Koh Tao.
I bet they couldn't find a baseline of truth anywhere ... so it would be all for nothing
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I bet he was in the dark about the dna evidence etc.. And now he knows that if the uk are allowed to investigate the whole corruption/mafia shit will unravel..and he chose to protect them... I dont know what kind of man this really is .. i mean behind the cameras and everything.. i dont know what kind of pressure he is under etc... but one thing is for sure,, he knows that he is now protecting the mafia ... so he is corrupt. sorry.
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Police talking with loan shark:
There is pressure to stop your loan sharking activities. We need double the bribes this month.
Loan shark: ok, here you go.
Loan shark: darn, we need to raise the interest to make up for the increased bribes.
And tomorrow the busload with poor in debt farmers daughters going to pattaya to sell their bodies will be twice as big.
Enough said
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This is a step in the right direction, but people are dreaming if they think the dna tests will be confirmed one way or the other with UK involvement. Any samples collected will have been totally corrupted by now, either inadvertantly or on purpose so that the results give the desired outcome. It's been a total cock-up since day 1, and hard to see justice being done now. The Thai police are an embarrassment and make Thailand a laughing stock.
Not if the uk vad access to victims bodies early and managed to take their own samples. Then they can simply cross check their samples with the scapegoats and confirm. To catch the real killers they would need to get new fresh samples from the real suspects, but thats another story.
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I hope your right A18, as if he is that shrewd his power and popularity will skyrocket and the traditional influential thugs power will diminish as they are exposed as nothing but an impediment to Thai growth in the international arena. It's a big one I know but lets continue to keep a positive outlook as lately i have been moving towards the naysayers camp.I'm thinking that we are witnessing the final showdown between the military and the police in their power struggle.
Other posters have also alluded to this - Prayuth, in his new "international" role has been rudely awakened to the fact that Thailand is not the perfect, superior, isolated paradise and does have to answer to world opinion - like it or not.
He must be acutely aware that, in the eyes of the rest of the world, the disgraceful actions of the R.T.P. have caused Thailand and therefore he, as it's representative, severe embarrassment and, being that this man is far from stupid, he might just have decided to throw them to the wolves in an attempt to regain international credibility.
If I'm right, and time will tell, he will have made a very shrewd move.
He will have cemented his status as a true statesman whilst also salvaging the reputation of Thailand, ensuring that the Thai military are firmly in control of events and allowing the first real shakeup of the worthless R.T.P.
I'm only speculating, of course, but it would indeed be a fascinating scenario if it turns out to be true.........................
I might be pessimistic but i think the entire police force is corrupt. Nationwide. So throwing a small Island police station under the bus means nothing. His reluctance to do so means he is either stupid or not willing/able to tackle corruption for real.
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Very good news indeed
For me it Seems like the RTP maybe has a strong case to allowing the UK police to arrive and look at the case.
The general will not allow this if they don't have a good case. If the UK police find a mismatch on the DNA, this will be a totally face lose for the general and .
on the other hand this cut be a win win situation for the thailand, general and the police, if the UK police don't have anything to say and the DNA match and then show to the world the police is doing a good job and has nothing to hide
Could be that the thai pm has been stupid enough to believe his police chiefs in that the case is strong.
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Pretty big deal in the scheme of things and doubtless some face lost, especially for the weak UK 'ambassador' to Thailand with his praise for the police's handling of the investigation. They'll get the runaround, no doubt, and it'll be like working with tetchy teenagers, but if the Thais do sandbag this (foregone conclusion) they could be looking at some interesting travel advisories.
Actually he never praised police work. It was just attempted media manipulation which i think contributed to this end result that the uk is now coming
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(and that's just the assets that are in their names.. )
Sad but true... 
Koh Tao murder suspects tell rights commission they were beaten
in Thailand News
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The main issue is the DNA evidence... The court will probably not throw it out .. and claiming it's falsified would be defamation and a huge loss of face or something... turning 180 and admitting that it's falsified at this point seems unlikely as well... This is no longer about justice.. it's about politics and trying to save Thailands reputation ... obviously the only thing that could actually save it would be for the general to throw the police department under the bus and prove he is against corruption.. It seems like he was going to do it when he talked with Cameron in Milan .. But he later changed his mind for some reason.. maybe they threatened his family or made him understand some way.... .