JohnnyBKK

22 minutes ago, Max69xl said:

If you can do the 90 days report 14 days early and 7 days later, why miss the 90 days report? No documents needed (except for the first time),just bring the passport. And the 90 days report online works.

Just asking.

You can miss it, believe me. Maybe you are travelling in the country at that time, maybe you don't have the tm30, etc etc.

If they refuse you they won't care a bit about the kid. They will tell you to get the right visa and come back.

3 hours ago, MsBom said:

JohnnyBKK, I recommend you do as I did for my friend. No guarantee it'll work but it's better than missing the deadline without trying


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I finally got my landlord to do a tm30, it was difficult. So now I can do the 90 days report. Not sure how I will do next time... 

1 hour ago, elviajero said:

That is normal for a lost/missing TM.6, but this topic is about late 90 day reports.

 

There is no reason why immigration would send someone to the border because of a late 90 day report.

Thai elite also advised me to exit the country if I couldn't do the 90 days report, I think for thai people the fine for 90 days report feels expensive and they would prefer to take a bus and exit the country than to pay it if they were us, that's why they give us this advise.

2 minutes ago, elviajero said:

I can’t think of any reason why immigration would tell someone to do that. 

My first time at the immigration I didn't think the tm6 paper was useful, so I didn't bring it with me. When the officer asked where it was I just said I lost it, she was quite angry and told me to go to the police station and file a report. Then I told her that I just remembered where it was and just went back home and came back with the paper to give it to her, she was pleased and puzzled that my memory came back.

It's only a requirement if you stay in the country as they will remove the old one and replace it by a new one. As you exited the country you are a new visitor and therefore you have no 90 days report. All the old ones are useless in that case. But of course if you end up with a newbie immigration officer he might ask for it anyway and even if you tell him that's not required he will not want to lose face and still ask for it.

Because the non compliance doesn't carry any criminal charges making it unimportant.

I forgot mine 3 times, once I was let off for free because I didn't even know what it was. The other time I paid 2000 thb, the other time nobody noticed.

Same boat here, considering skipping it all too, mostly because of tm30 requirement.

I would prefer a camera on my face than the tm30 thing that can't be done without the landlord.

38 minutes ago, SCOTT FITZGERSLD said:

few years ago i left thailand by air. the immigration officer stamped my

passport but handed me the seperate departure form (that time they used

to attach that departure form to the passport, AFTER the immigration check out).

so i thought i don't need that departure form any more and threw it away.

but on boarding the flight, they refused my entry because i do not have the form with me.

i told them i threw it away, and argues but politely. than a security man came out of nowhere,

and told me aggresively :"SHUT UP".

FROM there i was escorted to an immigration interrogation room, where a lady officer

told me : "if you can't remember in which flight you came to thailand 30 days ago, you

will be arrested". so i tried hard and remembered the flight company, the lady left

and came back with a piece of paper which she threw at me (!) - that was

the passengers list on that flight into thailand !

 

and the funny side of the story? today you don't need at all this departure form...the

immigration officers keep it with them...

I log in into my emirates account and I have all proofs of my travels... easy.

The elite desk refused to do my 90 days report without the tm30 receipt. They are not very helpful in getting the tm30, they advised me to exit the country and come back to avoid doing the 90 days report.

I think in the french embassy it's also not allowed to use phones. It's disrespectful to use the phone in a gov facility. Also they are worried that you start filming inside, so they will ask you to keep your phone turned off.

If your name is not on it, then it's not your contract.... they should have refused it. You must have made such a fuss there for them to accept it !

4 minutes ago, tgeezer said:

I think that visitors use an International Driving Permit issued in your home country. 

I don't think that he wants to go to his country for a driving license... I was also unable to do 90 days report for 2 years because I always left the country before 90 days, the solution was to rent something in Jomtien and report there. It works like a charm as they don't require anything else than your rental contract to issue the certificate.

Had the same problem, rent something cheap in jomtien and apply there.

On 8/20/2019 at 2:33 PM, paulbrow said:

I just had to scream SUCCESS!! Did the TM-30 House Registration online on June 20 and have finally received my user name and password on August 20. Then signed in using the app, changed my password as directed and proceeded to register myself being here... YEA!!!!

Please tell what documents did you upload, are you a tenant ????

2 hours ago, Pib said:

Well, about 3 of those 8 hours was the annual retirement extension of stay renewal time....a renewal where they have never asked me for a TM30 receipt over the past decade.  But today they did require a TM30 receipt since immigration is now enforcing TM30 requirements for "individuals"...enforcement they have been very, very lax on for the past few decades when it comes to individuals.  Most of the enforcement over the years has been on hotels/rental landlords/etc., and not individuals.  

 

So, instead of being able to complete my annual extension of stay by around 11am I was there until 4pm because I needed a TM30 receipt for the extension of stay package....and based on TM30 queue numbers I decribed earlier there were probably 400 to 500 people filing TM30s today at CW...and CW only has two counters (counter B1 and B2) for TM30 filings....with only two counters the filings go slow.

I prefer to not bother with TM30 and 90 days report then, pay the fine if caught and that's it. I will exit the country before any extension is due.

Just now, Martyp said:

This must be your first time on Thaivisa Forum? You you knew nothing about TM30 until today?

 

 I was at CW this morning too to do a 90 day report.

Did they ask for tm30 too for the 90 days report ??

14 minutes ago, Pib said:

To add to my post above from yesterday, today I was at Chaeng Wattana doing my annual retirement extension of stay renewal and had to file a TM30.  When setting down with the immigration officer in the Long Stay area "L" to review the paperwork for the extension one of the first things she looked for was a TM30 receipt.   Of course I didn't have one as I've never filed one in the 11 years years being  in Thailand...and this was my 10th extension of stay at CW....a TM30 receipt has never been required before.   

Anyway the officer did most of the work to approve my extension of stay, but then gave me a blank TM30 with a queue number attached for the TM30 area (area/counters B...and they only have two counters in area B to process TM30s).   The officer had a whole stack of blank TM30s with queue numbers on her desk....seemed to be giving them to most people....only partially processing their extension of stay renewal package until it was determined whether a TM30 was onfile or not.  

 

My TM30 queue number was 256....and it was approx 10:00am.  The officer said to come back to finish-up the extension processing/approval after checking with the TM30 Area B folks...see if I needed to complete a TM30...pay a fine..etc.  Went to area B....it was packed with a couple hundred people...they were only up to queue number 106.   1200-1300 lunch time arrived....my queue number wasn't even close to be called yet....they are now only up to around queue #155 when stopping for lunch. 

 

My #256 was finally called around 3pm.  Had to complete a TM30 and pay an Bt800 fine....I now have a TM30 receipt and can go back to the Long Stay area L to complete processing of my extension of stay. 

 

However, before I leave the TM30 area B which is collecting Bt800 fines from many people I ask is this the section that also processes "online TM30 registrations."  I even opened my Section 38 (TM30) app to show I'm awaiting the verification email....said  I submitted the registration 3 days ago...haven't got any email.  The area B rep said yes they are the ones that process the online registration for those folks serviced by Chaeng Wattana and I probably will not receive the verification email "for at least 10 days....maybe one month."  Well, that explains why I hadn't got any verification email yet.   I now got back to the Long Stay Area L to see about finishing up my extension approval. I would estimate there are at least still 200 people in Area B area waiting to process TM30s.

 

Now back to the Long Stay L area. Now that I have a TM30 receipt the officer continues the final processing of my extension....that gets done just a few minutes before 4pm.  As I'm walking out of immigration (and all of immigration is still packed with people in all areas) I check to see what queue number they are up to in the TM30 area B....they are now up to queue #354 and I estimate there are easily still over 100 people waiting to be called to process TM30s.

 

With all my previous retirement extensions of stay over the last decade I've always been done, finished, out door way before the noon lunch hour...usually I'm done by 11am.  But today, since I had to get a TM30 filed and get receipt I didn't leave immigration until 4pm...and I was there for their opening at 8:30am.

 

While waiting to be called today, around 9:30am I decided to submit registration for their "Immigration eServices" using their Android app where you can do 90 day address reporting.   When I submitted the registration it said a verification email would be sent to finalize activation of the registration....it gave the impression it was sent immediately.  But once again like for the Section 38 (TM30) registration, no email arrived....also checked my Spam and Trash folders...no email.  Thought to my self this is probably going the same route as the verification email for the Section 38 app...it may be weeks or longer before it arrives (if it ever arrives).   But lo and behold at exactly 1130am the email arrives, I click the activation link, and my account is now activated....I can now log onto Immigration eServices. 

 

Since that Immigration eServices email arrived that confirmed to me there is nothing wrong with my email address...and the verification email for the Section 38 (TM30) registration simply has not been sent yet which as already mentioned the Area B/TM30 section rep told me a few hours later that it will probably take 10 to 30 days (assuming the registration passes whatever preliminary review they use).

 

Yes, for the first time in a decade I had a full day at Chaeng Wattana thanks to needing a TM30 receipt in order to process my retirement extension of stay.

 

 

It's cheaper to pay the fine if you get caught than to go there, pay at least 500 thb of taxi and lose 8 hours. Not worth it for sure, unless it's an extension and you have no choice.

Just now, SpanishExpat said:

Just the passport copy or also the TM6 copy AND a copy of the page with the most recent arrival stamp?

Just passport copy, the website didn't ask for anything else. It said passport copy and "contract of sale" I supposed that was the rental contract.