JohnnyBKK

On 8/20/2019 at 2:33 PM, paulbrow said:

I just had to scream SUCCESS!! Did the TM-30 House Registration online on June 20 and have finally received my user name and password on August 20. Then signed in using the app, changed my password as directed and proceeded to register myself being here... YEA!!!!

Please tell what documents did you upload, are you a tenant ????

2 hours ago, Pib said:

Well, about 3 of those 8 hours was the annual retirement extension of stay renewal time....a renewal where they have never asked me for a TM30 receipt over the past decade.  But today they did require a TM30 receipt since immigration is now enforcing TM30 requirements for "individuals"...enforcement they have been very, very lax on for the past few decades when it comes to individuals.  Most of the enforcement over the years has been on hotels/rental landlords/etc., and not individuals.  

 

So, instead of being able to complete my annual extension of stay by around 11am I was there until 4pm because I needed a TM30 receipt for the extension of stay package....and based on TM30 queue numbers I decribed earlier there were probably 400 to 500 people filing TM30s today at CW...and CW only has two counters (counter B1 and B2) for TM30 filings....with only two counters the filings go slow.

I prefer to not bother with TM30 and 90 days report then, pay the fine if caught and that's it. I will exit the country before any extension is due.

12 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

That is message that did not come up before I was writing about.

It means you record could not be found. Try again and only enter the info for the required fields.

I've tried everything, filling and not filling the non required fields, I tried different nationalities, nothing works. They could at least tell us what is the problem in the error message.

Just now, Martyp said:

This must be your first time on Thaivisa Forum? You you knew nothing about TM30 until today?

 

 I was at CW this morning too to do a 90 day report.

Did they ask for tm30 too for the 90 days report ??

14 minutes ago, Pib said:

To add to my post above from yesterday, today I was at Chaeng Wattana doing my annual retirement extension of stay renewal and had to file a TM30.  When setting down with the immigration officer in the Long Stay area "L" to review the paperwork for the extension one of the first things she looked for was a TM30 receipt.   Of course I didn't have one as I've never filed one in the 11 years years being  in Thailand...and this was my 10th extension of stay at CW....a TM30 receipt has never been required before.   

Anyway the officer did most of the work to approve my extension of stay, but then gave me a blank TM30 with a queue number attached for the TM30 area (area/counters B...and they only have two counters in area B to process TM30s).   The officer had a whole stack of blank TM30s with queue numbers on her desk....seemed to be giving them to most people....only partially processing their extension of stay renewal package until it was determined whether a TM30 was onfile or not.  

 

My TM30 queue number was 256....and it was approx 10:00am.  The officer said to come back to finish-up the extension processing/approval after checking with the TM30 Area B folks...see if I needed to complete a TM30...pay a fine..etc.  Went to area B....it was packed with a couple hundred people...they were only up to queue number 106.   1200-1300 lunch time arrived....my queue number wasn't even close to be called yet....they are now only up to around queue #155 when stopping for lunch. 

 

My #256 was finally called around 3pm.  Had to complete a TM30 and pay an Bt800 fine....I now have a TM30 receipt and can go back to the Long Stay area L to complete processing of my extension of stay. 

 

However, before I leave the TM30 area B which is collecting Bt800 fines from many people I ask is this the section that also processes "online TM30 registrations."  I even opened my Section 38 (TM30) app to show I'm awaiting the verification email....said  I submitted the registration 3 days ago...haven't got any email.  The area B rep said yes they are the ones that process the online registration for those folks serviced by Chaeng Wattana and I probably will not receive the verification email "for at least 10 days....maybe one month."  Well, that explains why I hadn't got any verification email yet.   I now got back to the Long Stay Area L to see about finishing up my extension approval. I would estimate there are at least still 200 people in Area B area waiting to process TM30s.

 

Now back to the Long Stay L area. Now that I have a TM30 receipt the officer continues the final processing of my extension....that gets done just a few minutes before 4pm.  As I'm walking out of immigration (and all of immigration is still packed with people in all areas) I check to see what queue number they are up to in the TM30 area B....they are now up to queue #354 and I estimate there are easily still over 100 people waiting to be called to process TM30s.

 

With all my previous retirement extensions of stay over the last decade I've always been done, finished, out door way before the noon lunch hour...usually I'm done by 11am.  But today, since I had to get a TM30 filed and get receipt I didn't leave immigration until 4pm...and I was there for their opening at 8:30am.

 

While waiting to be called today, around 9:30am I decided to submit registration for their "Immigration eServices" using their Android app where you can do 90 day address reporting.   When I submitted the registration it said a verification email would be sent to finalize activation of the registration....it gave the impression it was sent immediately.  But once again like for the Section 38 (TM30) registration, no email arrived....also checked my Spam and Trash folders...no email.  Thought to my self this is probably going the same route as the verification email for the Section 38 app...it may be weeks or longer before it arrives (if it ever arrives).   But lo and behold at exactly 1130am the email arrives, I click the activation link, and my account is now activated....I can now log onto Immigration eServices. 

 

Since that Immigration eServices email arrived that confirmed to me there is nothing wrong with my email address...and the verification email for the Section 38 (TM30) registration simply has not been sent yet which as already mentioned the Area B/TM30 section rep told me a few hours later that it will probably take 10 to 30 days (assuming the registration passes whatever preliminary review they use).

 

Yes, for the first time in a decade I had a full day at Chaeng Wattana thanks to needing a TM30 receipt in order to process my retirement extension of stay.

 

 

It's cheaper to pay the fine if you get caught than to go there, pay at least 500 thb of taxi and lose 8 hours. Not worth it for sure, unless it's an extension and you have no choice.

27 minutes ago, transam said:

And Visa page...They did with me. Not sure about the address thingy, unless that is to tally up with the address in the book..

I don't stay at the address on the book anymore anyway.

Just now, SpanishExpat said:

Just the passport copy or also the TM6 copy AND a copy of the page with the most recent arrival stamp?

Just passport copy, the website didn't ask for anything else. It said passport copy and "contract of sale" I supposed that was the rental contract.

Just now, Kwasaki said:

Your local DLT will issue 2 forms to you for that purpose and you need copy of passport, copy of proof address or work permit will do as well.  

I need proof of address from immigration to sell a car ?? What if I don't live here but still have a car to sell.

Hello,

What are the documents needed to sell a car as a foreigner to a thai citizen ?

Thanks.

I submitted copy of passport and rental contract as advised by thaivisa members. I'm the tenant.

Now when trying to submit 90 days report I get this : 

11 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

You have a non immigrant O-A visa from home country Thai Consulate?  Or another type of visa?

Elite

Just now, lopburi3 said:

Note you say arrived rather than last reported.  How long is your permitted stay?  If only 90 days there is no report to make.  You have to leave or extend your stay.

1 year.

10 minutes ago, gearbox said:

JohnnyBKK,  it would be much easier to have 800k bahts right? Why the 800k issue comes so often?

Maybe people move here because they think it's cheap, Thailand is not cheap.

But clearly, 800K bahts is nothing for someone who is 55 and accumulated wealth for 35 years.

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Possibly something you entered incorrectly in one of the required fields marked with a *.

Did you use the drop down menu for a your nationality. Entered all of your arrival card number (letters and digits).

Have you gotten an new passport since your last entry. If yes that is the reason. Same for a arrival prior to 2013.

I have only the departure card, I don't have the arrival card. I used the number from departure card.

Arrived on 4 June 2019.

Nationality was auto written in english and thai so I guess it was correctly selected.

Just now, ubonjoe said:

The blank page is due to a pop up message being blocked. The message you cannot see means your record could not be found.

There is a app. For android it is here. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=th.go.immigration.immeService&hl=en

Same name for IOS on Itunes or whatever.

I downloaded the app but haven't received the link to confirm my email.

My record could not be found ? What I'm doing wrong ??

1 minute ago, Boy Wonder said:

But then I go out of pocket unnecessarily. Why should I have to pay a few thousand baht extra when I am doing everything according to the law? It's the landlord that should go out of pocket, if anything. 

 

Moreover, I don't think a couple night stay at a hotel will suffice for a one year visa...what about the remaining 363 days? I'm sure immigration will ask the same question.

 

I appreciate the solution, but not sure it will work for me, to be honest.

That's life, if I was your landlord I would also not file the TM30, it's too annoying. Landlords are supposed to be wealthy, they don't like to deal with <deleted> paperwork like this.

1 minute ago, gearbox said:

 

Thailand is what it is. It is not a first world country, the enforcement of "rules" is somewhat "flexible", and the cost of living is adequate to what it is.

 

If you don't want TM30, etc you can get a retirement visa for Australia - have 750K AUD handy to invest, plus prove that you have an annual income more than 65K AUD, and approved private health insurance. Any takers?

 

 http://www.skillclear.co.uk/australia/retirementVisa.asp

By 55 it's easy to have 750K AUD saved up in assets... a single piece of real estate bought when you are 20 on mortgage and that's it. If you don't have that kind of money you shouldn't be retiring overseas, stay in your own country.

8 minutes ago, madmen said:

I believe you file under the term possessor as a tenant. You just post it inTo your immigration office or get the app and do it online

 

Hopefully someone will be along to

Correct me if I got this wrong

 

 

 

 

 

The online thing doesn't really work, I got rejected for no apparent reason.

He should go to the immigration with his rental contract and try to file the TM30 there, if they refuse it, then he could check-in in some hotel and ask for the TM30 from that hotel and use it for his paperwork.

You can actually get the house registration directly from the land department as I did if the owner doesn't provide it.

Move to Dubai, 0 issues with visas and it's a super nice country.

6 minutes ago, genobkk said:

I did mine a month ago when I check status it just says verify your account email address, I never did get an email to verify, check spam folder, nothing 

Your email must be "lost" then, you will have to register again with a new email.

When I try to send the online form for 90 days report I end up on a blank page... the thing is not working. Is there an app to do it ?

15 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There have been mixed reports about CW rejecting a online 90 day report if a TM30 report was not shown on their records.

You could try to do one online and if rejected do it in person.

I stayed at some hotel last month, will this count ? Address is different than actual address.