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13 hours ago, Poet said:

They will fill the 1,200 seats per month but only because so many people are desperate to get back to their loved ones.

Hopefully the generals will have the good sense to use this as simply the first step in re-opening tourism, and use the "success" of the first month as grounds to rapidly expand access.

Hopefully they will also be smart enough to know that, beyond these initial desperate folks, the quarantine requirement is simply not going to fly with regular tourists.

 

Poet,  we will find out soon enough if 1,200 people enter the Kingdom with this STV. I can't help thinking this is the way they want to continue for what ever reason. Just let them find out if they can survive on the well-heeled where ever they are coming from.  "Up to them" 

We will have all been upset to see the result of this lockdown on the thai people in tourist resorts out of work. The news of this will raise hopes of a return to normal without realising the pathetically small numbers planned to allow entry to the Kingdom. It has to fail and must fail.

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

I have not found it difficult to retire here, been on a retirement visa for 7 years now.

The big mistake many retirees make is to sink all their assets into Thailand. I've always operated on the principle 80% of my assets stay in Australia.

My only non-liquid assets here are a secondhand car and secondhand scooter. No big loss. My funds in several banks would be withdrawn lickety-split, and converted to currencies which are not printing more money, or gold. I could do that in the 7 days the authorities give if they are kicking someone out.

I'm sure my contribution is appreciated and valued by my Thai GF and her family. The Thai ruling class and their opinions are irrelevant to me, it's only the regulations I have to watch out for.

I'd agree that so far, retirees who have been caught outside Thailand have been treated badly. It's not as if they are in an age group that is reckless with coronavirus, unless they are Trump supporters.

What kind of country is it you only invest 20% of your assets for fear of losing it. I'm sure your thai gf and family appreciated what you did for them yesterday. Today what you can give me falang ?

14 hours ago, MadMac said:

And how do they get in? Flights are banned, remember?

Exactly, and getting everything up and running again is a huge task for every airline and they need bums on seats. This paltry proposal fails totally. 

1 hour ago, aussienam said:

And like always, NEVER any news of retirees being allowed back on the currently suspended Non Imm O & O-A visas (unless you are married and/or married/spouse with Thai child) continues.  

Retirees are being treated with zero consideration.  Thousands of us stranded abroad, yet special tourist visas have become more of a priority and will sidestep retirees with their 800,000 baht bank deposits.  WHY? 

Because, it's all about the money. 

6 hours ago, baansgr said:

What's the alternative? Open borders...

Self quarranting at your destination home or hotel and track and trace would be a start. 

A failure to govern the country and its economy is dealt with at the ballot box in other countries. The thai people have lost their voice. 

It seems to me that until Airlines can fill the seats on scheduled flights to and from Thailand this stand-off will continue. It was so easy to lockdown the country back in March. 

17 hours ago, overherebc said:

People don't believe me when I say the reason I never had or wanted kids, ex was of the same mind, because I really didn't want to bring kids into this world and I'm talking about 40+ years ago. The mess this world is in now has, for me anyway, proved I'm right.

Over populated, over polluted and heading for deep doo-doo in a hand cart. All countries in the same cart.

I wonder what my parents were thinking conceiving my two sisters and two brothers during WW2 while Hitler rained down his bombs on Britain. Life goes on believe me.

Sorry, but how could this happen ? I thought Thailand was virus free for 100 days. Obviously, it was lying in the shadows waiting to re-emerge. Does'nt this make the whole isolationist policy a waste of time. 

6 hours ago, smutcakes said:

I am not sure about other countries but i could get on a plane to the UK tomorrow from Thailand. If UK nationals are desperate to see their better halfs why not have them fly to the UK.

smutcakes, if only it were so easy my wife would  come to UK, but returning to LOS is fraught with problems not just quarratine regs.

21 minutes ago, 473geo said:

Anybody who thinks and behaves on the presumption a Thai woman cannot survive without them is going to fail

Yes, I've heard that before, thais can live on fresh air alone. Tell that to the increasingly large number of homeless or the ones in food queues.

1 hour ago, lensta said:

Don't worry, this government will do everything possible not to open up the borders of Thailand.

Now ain't that the truth. Covid-19 has allowed governments to pursue long wished for agendas.

11 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

A simple un-hoopy un-quarantining apart from in my house, inexpensive return to my wife would be a nice plan

RichardColeman, that would be too easy, but we can dream. I think I will be in UK for Christmas and won't have seen my partner for over a year. Everybody is losing.

2 hours ago, Seeall said:

I really think you ALL are wasting your time on this... NOTHING will happen until Flights come and people are allowed in......

 

end of story!! everything else is just hot air....

Seeall, You are so right, Thailand just throws googlies at ya every time. the airlines need clearance as you say and they need passengers with a chance of getting in at the their destination. 

10 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

The issue at hand is that Thailand knows this and realizes how much money they can make on those rinse and repeat 6 month tourists. Not just pure greed but lunacy.

ThailandRyan, Spot on, I think we can conclude this Phuket model with the expense of three weeks quarantine and tests will disappoint. I wastes this valuable time left to salvage anything of the high season. As you have forecast before the future for many thais is bleak, and our frustration continues - stuck here in UK too.    

On 8/28/2020 at 12:23 PM, oompie69 said:

What she needs to do, and what is extremely difficult to do, it seems, is study what the result has been of allowing foreigners into other countries that did not totally shut their borders. Did those countries show a marked spike in infected casers from abroad? Otherwise it is just baseless speculation.

"because the government has to consider too many details"---

Is this not where the problem lies , perhaps?

  

compie69, is'nt the UK a good example of that. We critisized the gov't for not locking down inbound flights but six months I'm happy with it and visitors sor returnees self-quarratining at home as required. Would this work for Thailand ? 

It is one thing to identify an illegal immigrant but this overreaction demonstrates the fear and disdain in which farangs are held and must be hunted down and eradicated like virus carrying vermin. They must be prevented from entering the country at all costs or caged for 14 days minimum if they get in.

11 hours ago, Dialemco said:

These are the few that you can see what about the many unseen destitute and desperate Thais so badly hit by the covid crisis owing no fault of their own. Surely they deserve help and quickly. So Sad

Dialemco, yes, and it will get worse for many not just tourist areas and will not get welfare. I can't help but respect thai people for their restraint in such hard times, but for how long can an empty stomach without a roof keep it in.

Bodga, well said, and how very true. Where are the thais who have got fat on the back of sin city Pattaya to help the unfortunate in their hour of need ? But many farang khi nok have helped and financed those long food queues.