alanrchase

The beer market here isn't great due to regulations. It would be wonderful to have micro brews like most other countries have. Or at least cheaper beer!

I think to recall that Hopf brewhouse in Pattaya is a micro brewery, but I don't think they are any cheaper than what is available elsewhere.

They tried one on Phuket. It bombed. Even micro breweries produce shit here.

Born pessimist. Thais can do nothing right.

It is appalling to see insensitive, crude and uncouth comments made by none other than <deleted>. A man is dead who is someone's ,brother, son, or father. Disgusting uncivilised behaviour by these TV members.

Welcome to the Internet. It is what it is.

I have to add regarding Brit drinkers. Average alcohol content used to be about 3.5% for beer. Travel abroad to a hot humid country and down the same quantity of 5% beer and question quality. I would question IQ.

The Danes, who make excellent beer, was in the past visited daily by hordes of thirsty Swedes (because of the very high tax on liquor in Sweden at the time). The Swedes would buy all they could and go back to Sweden. The Danes produced a beer especially for Swedish customers which they would not touch themselves, it had 16% alcohol by addition, tasted like shit but the Swedes couldn't care less because for them it was all about the percentage

And the name of the beer was "Elephant beer". 555 (compare to "Chang" nudge....nudge..).

16%. Headache thinking about it. Came across Elephant beer in Bournmouth UK. Needed to ride home so did not parcipitate.

I only drink over priced ( over taxed ) Youngs london Gold Youngs special London Wells Bomardier Wells Bombardier Burning gold and Oettinger Black Beer But then again I do not mind spending more to get what I like

Yes, all the local stuff is catpiss rubbish. The Japanese make the only decent beer in Asia and it's blown out of the market by protectionism.

Not sure how to interpret cat piss.Percent alcohol or general taste?

I wonder what kind of preservatives they put in Thai beer? because it seems the beer can be kept forever in 36+ degrees Celsius temperatures?

Preservatives and what else? Anyone know? None of this shit can be called 'beer'. I was going to take a bottle of Singha back to the UK to have it analysed, but the cost of such turned out to be prohibitive.

I believe that they used to put formalin in Singha as preservative, but not allowed in EU, hence difference in flavour of Singha overseas.

Anyone know if they still use it?

Formulin in beer is a wife's tale.

Wouldn't be too sure about that. Even the Thais are aware they spray it on everything from fish to veg to 'keep it looking fresh'. A friend told me he'd had a fish in his 'fridge for three days and it still looked as fresh as the day he bought it, so he threw it out. Another friend, when visiting Oz, visited a local hospital about his blurring eyesight. The doctor asked if he'd been in Thailand ..

Yeah. Is it true they use Formulin?

Absolut? Where can I get some?

Any 7/11. But they're mostly copies i suspect ..

Due to a TV series I am watching Absolut came to mind. Expensive stuff. 7/11? Possibly.

I have to add regarding Brit drinkers. Average alcohol content used to be about 3.5% for beer. Travel abroad to a hot humid country and down the same quantity of 5% beer and question quality. I would question IQ.

I wonder what kind of preservatives they put in Thai beer? because it seems the beer can be kept forever in 36+ degrees Celsius temperatures?

Preservatives and what else? Anyone know? None of this shit can be called 'beer'. I was going to take a bottle of Singha back to the UK to have it analysed, but the cost of such turned out to be prohibitive.

I believe that they used to put formalin in Singha as preservative, but not allowed in EU, hence difference in flavour of Singha overseas.

Anyone know if they still use it?

Formulin in beer is a wife's tale.

I don't know why you mentioning "stiff upper for" Many people not just me find they are rude and ignorant as a whole in comparison to other nationals. , how many years did you live there then ?

They are who they are. Met a lot of foreigners who think spitting on the pavement is ok. Can't change that overnight. Calm down, give it some time.

I don't know with them , there told they are the greatest country in the world. Anyway , they'll probably get better , do them good to get out of PRC

"They are told they are the greatest country in the world"

Try as I might I cannot add to that.

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Imported premium beer in Asda in the UK works out at approx 16 baht a bottle

330 or pints? Did a ferry booze trip once, customs were all over it on the way back. Cheap beer. UK tax on beer has gone up so much over the years that I doubt you can get an unsubsidized pint too cheap. Europe different story.

Thats exactly as they act in their own country , Thank Mao and almost 70 years of Chinese perverted communism for that

So are they wrong? Their way. Should they be instilled with a stiff upper lip at birth to conform to your expectations? "Foreigners " do various things I don't like, learn to accept it.

I don't know why you mentioning "stiff upper for" Many people not just me find they are rude and ignorant as a whole in comparison to other nationals. , how many years did you live there then ?

They are who they are. Met a lot of foreigners who think spitting on the pavement is ok. Can't change that overnight. Calm down, give it some time.

Well you would have to understand if its the way they do things in China ( I haven't been) and know if it was "normal" for them.............with a population of billions it probably is "everyman for himself" ( or woman)

I've been, and probably others on here as well....

It's not too bad over there(China) that i encountered....BUT corruption and crime are rampant, if you go to the wrong place.....

I worked on the Railway there for a few years , believe me when you get out of cities like Beijing and Shanghai , its dirty shit hole in some places reminiscent of the Industrial revolution. Public Hospital , Optician school are Dickensian , The attitude they have of complete selfishness and no social awareness goes back to the Days of "Liberation" and the Great leap forward . Mao had a Kill/Purge ratio of 1 to 2 % and to save their own skins people denounced each other , so it became dangerous to have friends. The queue jumping also comes from times , when over 20 million died in the Mao induced famine and collectivization of the farms. The people had to take what they could.

The beer market here isn't great due to regulations. It would be wonderful to have micro brews like most other countries have. Or at least cheaper beer!

Exactly, beer brewing is reserved for the privileged in Thai society. Another benefit for the elite. When outside of Thailand, I make a point of NOT drinking Thai beer. These people are pathetically lazy as well. China in dominated by Budweiser . In the land of Ching Dao, all you can get is Bud. Thai beer only seems common in Cambodia and Singapore where you have better choices. No Thai brand can stand up to Beer Lao. Beer Lao I hear is cheaper in Taiwan than in Thailand. The Thai beer Titans are weenies outside of protectionist Thailand

Budweiser popular in China? Yeah gad when I lived in Canada and went camping in the USA I always stopped at the border to load up on Labatts Blue. When sitting around the campfire the Yanks noticed I had Labatts Blue and offered 2 Buds for 1 Blue. I of course said NO!! I was to weiser to drink Bud

Bud. King of beers.

Thats exactly as they act in their own country , Thank Mao and almost 70 years of Chinese perverted communism for that

So are they wrong? Their way. Should they be instilled with a stiff upper lip at birth to conform to your expectations? "Foreigners " do various things I don't like, learn to accept it.

The beer market here isn't great due to regulations. It would be wonderful to have micro brews like most other countries have. Or at least cheaper beer!

Like the taxi mafia the big boys would not allow it. Forget free enterprise. You cannot even buy a brew your own kit here.

Yes, no home brew kits. Micro brewers are taking off in BKK. F opinions about Mafia. Interesting times for serious beer drinkers.

I only drink over priced ( over taxed ) Youngs london Gold Youngs special London Wells Bomardier Wells Bombardier Burning gold and Oettinger Black Beer But then again I do not mind spending more to get what I like

Wish I had the money. Zero offence. Good for you.

If a bar in Cambodia can sell a 330 ml/12oz pint of local beer for 15-30 baht and both brewer and bar make money, then Thai brewers are making fortunes.

On a bit of a looser if you think 330 ml or 12oz is a pint.

If a bar in Cambodia can sell a 330 ml/12oz pint of local beer for 15-30 baht and both brewer and bar make money, then Thai brewers are making fortunes.

Cost of production or tax for retail price? In a previous thread someone gave the impression that a beer in the West cost B 15. In UK I would suspect the tax on a small beer was more than B 15. Too expensive? Don't drink. I like a tipple now and again but Johnny Blue is out of my budget.

We were waiting in this line which was for seniors or people with disabilities last week. I didn't mind it so much as I had an ebook reader with me. The line was, however, painfully slow and of all things we we got up to the register counter since I left a small space for shoppers to get through the line, the lady behind me spoke with the Missus who was standing before me. The Missus spoke to the person in English and then I indicated as best as possible we were together and standing in line.

Now this lady apparently misunderstood me and smiled and tried to step in between me and the Missus. Without thinking I grabbed her arm and moved it back. The lady realized her error and just laughed.

I never have any hesitation to let someone in front of me who has a few items while I have a full cart but that was not the case this time. We were only buying two liters of milk.

The Missus and I got a good laugh after we finished paying.

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Immigration queues are always a wonderful experience. Could complain about most countries I have visited. Three hours in queue and another plane lands, families go to the front. AAAArgh. Never had a problem in a Thai airport.

I am amazed at the change in Thai Immigration. Western tourists, who spend money and respect Thai culture, customs, religion and people are now being discouraged to come here or stay here, .. but the red carpet has been rolled out to Russians and chinese, both of which show no respect for anything Thai and do not even like Thai people, ... plus they frequent their own restaurants, hotels and tour companies, ...so little real benefit goes to the Thai people or economy!

Wake up Thailand! Devalue the baht and make Westerners feel welcome again! Your exports will do better and your revenue from tourism will soar once more

Honest post, Completely aaccurate.

Total racist BS.

Standing in a nice, orderly queue at Lotus, 2 Chinese women walked straight up and put their basket on the till counter....trouble is, the staff served them first, didn't tell them them others were waiting! I just put my basket on the floor by the till and walked out, can't be bothered with that sh*t.

I find this a common failure of Thai retail management. The store loses money because the check-out clerk serves the queue breakers. The check-out clerk doesn't care ... they don't understand ... the managers should train them.

On occasion, I have seen a check-out clerk refusing a queue breaker ... so proper training works.

Not really the check-out persons problem. Should they "get involved"? Queuing is alien in some cultures. Hated going to the bank in Mid East.

If people can not afford beer they will drink more Thai whiskey. Whiskey much cheaper and more dangerous when driving. Lower beer prices and have less drunk drivers!

And I thought drink driving was about the amount of alcohol consumed. Nice to know it is more to do with how much the alcohol costs.

Topics on alcohol always attract a lot of responses. My observations are that a large number of Thais do not drink alcohol. The minority that do drink to excess.

Astute observation I offered my handyman a glass of Absolut expecting him to refuse it (as most do) but he downed it in one, refusing a mixer, then asked for another. Next thing he was in my freezer helping himself to a third. Pissed as a newt!

Absolut? Where can I get some?

Topics on alcohol always attract a lot of responses. My observations are that a large number of Thais do not drink alcohol. The minority that do drink to excess.

Ever been to a Thai Card Game? Get real......

Yes, house across the road runs one. My observations are from a real living here point of view. Different locations will differ. First appearances are not always correct.

Picking on the Chinese is the way to go now. Taken the heat off of the Russians. Obnoxious tourists can come from all countries. Let it go.