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3 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said:

What is interesting about this case is that it is claimed that many - 10 -  government hospitals refused to treat her as they considered themselves incapable of doing so. Transferring her to another hospital by ambulance - you pay - wasn't even an option, it seems. which is what happened with me when I had a heart scare a few years ago. There was nowhere available where she could be treated, in an area where there are countless factories and other businesses that could be prone to massive accidents, explosions and such, at any moment. That's pretty frightening.

Uhm you realise your living in a developing nation? Are you not already aware of this?

This forum is so predictable. They roll out a picture of a pretty girl all the white knights are up in arms blowing up at a hospital. NOT THE HOSPITALS FAULT. Not one mention of the multiple dead or any concern about how all the others with the horrible burns are doing.

  If the person in the bed was Barry from essex no one would give a rats and more than likely would be roasting him for not having the right insurance.

1 hour ago, aussienam said:

"There she had to put a 50,000 baht deposit down before they would accept her friend for treatment. "

 

This is a critical life threatening emergency. And this very very wealthy hospital is squabbling over 50,000 Baht.  So, you need to go doctor shopping from hospital to hospital if you are poor.  And if no money - the hospitals turn their backs to you and you DIE.

 

Developed nations in a democracy have a overriding duty of care to first and foremost save life.  Worry about the costs later.  

 

This poor Vietnamese lady could easily have died from delays. She also could already suffered irreversible damage and disfigurement to her from the delays in treatment. Burns don't stop once the fire is put out. Tissue damage continues for some time after.  One of the most urgent situations to start immediate treatment.  

Truly a horrific outcome.

No she could have taken her chances in a non private hospital.  Or like every other foreigner who gets blasted on here when they set up a gofund me page she SHOULD have had private health insurance. 

2 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Private hospitals care about their bottom line...... End off.

 

Yep. Worldwide.

2 hours ago, Archie Baker said:

Rexiprocol agreements buddy.  That's what governments do you know, look after their citizens when overseas.  Any nationality in UK is given A&E free of any charges.  Thailand wants it all and more.  Bangkok hospital should be ashamed of their action.  There's making money and ripping you off. 

Yeah buddy what they will do is keep you alive buddy thats it. And she us from Vietnam buddy what recipropical agreements do they have with Thailand buddy? If the Vietnamese government want to look after her great people are blaming Thais and the Thai government. You understand what reciprocal means buddy?

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

As we all know the local attitudes to medical cover is widely different per country.

 

In Australia most people visiting the country (most types of visas) have access/cover from the Australian social health care plan 'MEDICARE'. 

 

I was back in Australia for a couple of years. My Thai granddaughter (16, speaks very advanced English) was initially accepted to receive a 6 months scholarship to study in a normal Oz local high school and take part in their swimming coaching activity. 

 

I called MEDICARE, gave them the details and asked 'would she be covered fully under Oz  MEDICARE benefits, same as a local resident OZ citizen?

 

Quick answer 'Yes, fully covered, but make sure she is registered very quickly on arrival at a local Centrelink/Medicare office, or you can probably complete this by phone, just depends on whether they want to see her to prove her identity (prove she exists).

 

(Ultimately if was all canclled. Her Thai Matayom school wasn't happy and made noises about reducing her overall grades. Her father immediately withdrew her application for the Oz opportunity.)

Wrong! A grandaughter is completely different mate thats why you registered her. And unlike many countries Australia will offer emergency care i.e they wont let you die. Unfortunately for a foreign resident, and this is straight of the gov.au website

When in Australia and health care assistance is required, and a person is not covered by an appropriate level of private health insurance cover, as a non-resident and non-citizen of Australia, a person will be considered a private patient and will be required to pay any costs themselves at the time of treatment.Feb 7, 2565 BE

1 hour ago, BKKTRAVELER said:

Beautifully done by Bangkok hospital... A really humane way to deal with this tragedy. I find this absolutely disgusting. Because of the nature of the incident and how it has affected the country, any hospital should have rushed to offer free/reduced treatments for the victims. Would have costed a bit but that would bring them much better returns in the long term in term of reputation and image.

 

And only 10k so far from the owner of the pub... What a joke especially since his lawyer his praising him for being such an upstanding young man..

 

The whole story is sickening honestly.

 

Edit: I realize she is Vietnamese, but again that will not help with Thailand's international image at all. It shows foreigners are just second class liabilities.

Most countries don't have free health care. And that's for their own citizens fewer still have free treatment for foreign nationals.  If she was in the US the treatment would have been the same. Show proof of insurance or pay an upfront deposit.

On 8/9/2022 at 1:00 PM, Tony125 said:

You are aware the Lisa from "Black Pink" is from Buriram.

What you mean this Lisa from Blackpink?

Shop where you are local. I live in Udon but i wouldnt travel here or to KK to take the family shopping.

45 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

They are likely good, decent folks, working hard running this place. Bad fortune. They likely did not know about the materials they were using for soundproofing being so flammable. It is up to the authorities to inspect and make sure public venues are safe. So, who really dropped the ball here? 

 

Alot of mixed messages about the exits being locked. If so, that is a big issue. But, does anyone really know for sure? Was the pub illegal? Again, why were they allowed to operate? Don't the authorities bear any of the responsibility for this? 

To answer your question if the exits were locked, YES, its a massive fxxing deal.

Ive been a dog owner, breeder my whole life. I love animals. But if these animals have no owners, no carers and are left to just wander the streets it saddens me to say euthanasia would be a far better option than sterilisaton euthanase would also be the preferable option for the grubs that turn these dogs loose to roam the streets.

3 hours ago, ozimoron said:

If I were to pick one, Thai would be the choice based on food alone. Other than that, they are the same. The notion that one could be better than the other is based on stereotyping.

 

disclaimer: I have been married to both a Thai and a Filipina and speak both languages somewhat.

So not to sterotype but out of a population of 70 odd million in Thailand and 100 million in the phillos, outside of food they are all the same? ????????????????

10 hours ago, Iamfalang said:

Are falangs smart?

Are falangs happy?

Are falangs religious?

Are falangs generous?

Are they good people?

Are they bad people?

 

Yes, I'm talking about like 1 billion people, but would like a "yes" or "no" answer.

 

makes sense.

Beautifully said.

31 minutes ago, Lorry said:

No.

I know a girl who just financed the open-heart surgery for her American boyfriend. The American couldn't pay it. 

Unfortunately you are responding to people looking for something less substantial.

49 minutes ago, Lorry said:

To get money, be it p4p or be it a rich husband. 

But nowadays farang - especially those living in Isaan - don't always have so much more money than Thais, and the girls know this. 

Plenty of broke falangs for example on this forum whingeing about the price of beer in 7/11 . I dont hang with brokes nor falangs in Thailand in general. Tbh being on this forum just about does my head.

  I dont go to bars or spend my days on the sauce and clearly i was talking about traditional girls not slappers looking for a pay day. Thought i had made that clear.

On 8/9/2022 at 5:01 AM, KIngsofisaan said:

I have never seen a woman any where in Isaan terrified of westerners.

 

Fascinated? Yes. Terrified? No.

 

 

Generally means your not big enough. Certianly terrified of me. ????

Isaan is literally the "head of the river" i mean outside of all the white half chinese university educated supermodels that most posters have on here as girlfriends, when talking about natural Thai beauty the vast majority of them would be in the NE. Down by the head with glamours.

On 8/3/2022 at 12:17 PM, sawadee1947 said:

I'm the world record holder having met the largest number of dumb stupid people.....????????

 

And thats probably just on this forum.

2 hours ago, KannikaP said:

Now let me get this straight. ALL passengers, including sub-135 cm ones, must wear a seatbelt whilst travelling in a vehicle, (even if it is a Smart cab pick up with no belts in the back????? )

Children under SIX must be in a proper car seat, 6 to 12 must be belted (555) as must everyone else in the vehicle.

On 'the other forum' it says that children over TWELVE and shorter than 135 are exempted from a car seat, but must still wear a belt.

Clear now?

I always though belts were dangerous for certain heights ie the 135 as it actually sits more across the head/neck than shoulder perhaps?

39 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

My brother would eat fish, were it not for the bones. “Aye, but it tastes like it’s got bones”

Some of us are happy with our humdrum mundanity, some wonder if there could be something different, and perhaps too few take up arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them. But if it’s done, then when it’s done, it’s as well that it’s done quickly.

You've drawn from a few sources there but I agree in principle. 

38 minutes ago, StreetCowboy said:

If wishes were fishes, which would you find most delicious?

 

I might go tomorrow, if I’m feeling in the pink

To the Cricketers Arms, where they sell Cullen Skink

Your a street cowboy so ill give you the original "if wishes were horses beggars would ride, if horse turds were biscuits they'd eat till they died"

 Quite happy in my life mate. What i dont deal in is pipe dreams, what could have beens and bs.

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Looks good to me .........

https://www.sanook.com/news/8604846/

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064169886648&sk=photos

 

Out shopping at her local 7-11 .......... in a small bikini .....

https://www.facebook.com/100064169886648/videos/1025312651671623

Quite a hefty back piece.