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Sorry, yes per month

Quick question. I just changed the inverter setting to export. Solar power jumped from 3 amps ( my home) to 21 amps. My voltage is around 320 from the panels (slightly overcast). Am I sending 19 amps x solar voltage of 320 = 6,200 watts back to the grid? The meter definitely is spinning backwards and my inverter now is much louder. I'm just messing around and will turn export off but just wondering. Not sure how I calculate what is being sent back.

In the end do whatever is satisfying if you can afford it. ROI is hard to calculate because all the variables ( Upgrades, repairs, future and actual electric needs) My system as it will be after the battery is installed will cost roughly 1,100 baht a day to run ( PV and ESS amortized). I underestimated life expectancy of the components ( e.g., inverter 4 years). So all the electricity used over 1,100 baht is savings).

Happened all the time 5 years ago but now very rare. Did you setup WIFI on your Anern? That was fun- not!!! Took me 4 hours to get it working.

Too lazy to touchup 🙂 Battery added in the next few days.

I agree, it isn't for everybody. I'm healthy and only 57 so should be able to easily recover my costs. It is more of a fun project and not ROI centric. Not a big investment but positions me well to increase capacity easily enough if I get an EV. My life is so simple that it is hard to have big saving when my current electric need is not large.

I'll include photos later when I have the battery hooked up. Tomorrow I think. I guess I could send phots without the battery 🙂 A humble setup compared to others here. My cats have torn up the patio wall beside the inverter so it looks even worse 🙂 Had him install breakers and fuses in all the right places. Actually he did that without me asking. I probably should get cutoff knobs ( not sure of the name) between the inverter and the main panel and also between the panels and the inverter. Currently have breakers that do the job but assume there is a reason many use the knobs that you rotate to on/off. Have a big breaker between the battery (280 Ah LifePO4) and the inverter that will be installed. Will be buying a shunt also to measure battery info. The battery is the big question mark but one plus to buying from a vendor that slaps the cells together and attaches a BMS/active balancer is that they are easier to repair yourself. I will have no choice if something goes wrong with the battery but over the last 5 years I have acquired a decent understanding of LifePO4 batteries. Easy enough to slap in a new cell if needed but I have a good feeling the battery I bought will be fine for many years. Thought it was a good way to get my feet wet and eventually I might upgrade the battery as well as the inverter if I get an EV.

Mentioned in other threads I was installing solar this week and thought I would give an update. Little history first:) I Decided last Saturday to stop debating solar and just do it even though my options are a little limited here in the sticks. I got in the car and drove an hour to a small town/village about 20k outside Ubon that has a couple of solar shops that the locals use on their farms. Both shops were semi-clueless in regards to larger residential setups. Decided to go with a kid that had been doing farm setups for a couple years. Bought 14x550 (7.7 kW )panels from him and scheduled an install the following Wednesday. He showed up and put all the panels on the roof that is SW. Not ideal but had to work with the roof I had. I over paneled ( charger max 6.5 kW and panels 7.7 kW ). The panels IMO were installed professionally and in the end produced BIG watts 🙂 At this point everything was progressing beautifully! Now on to doing what he wasn't experienced at. Hooking up everything to the houses main panel and inverter (Anern 6.2 hybrid ). Took them a day to do this and had them disconnect the water heaters from the inverter (too much draw). Still have to confirms this was done correctly but he will fix it if not. He so far has been extremely easy to work with and I speak little Thai but more than his English. Solar is in the end is mostly just numbers and numbers are for the most part universal 🙂 Total for For the panel install and all the wiring and misc electric parts came to 69,875 baht. On top of that I purchased in Anern 6.2 inverter for 14,000. I have a 13.4 kWh battery on the way I ordered on Shopee. I know this could badly but I did a ton of research on the seller and I "think" it will be all good. He is claims it is new CATL cells unlike 95% of his other build where he uses used cells ( he states used cells for most his builds). His used cell build seem to be great also. Funny, he literally doesn't communicate with buyers which is bad but I knew that going into the transaction. I sent a few messages and crickets -lol. He won't even help if they need it need to be returned. Big risk it would seem 🙂 Total price with shipping 44,600 baht (great price even if the cells are used IMO ). I bet they will be able to produce 280 AH but if not oh well. Cost Breakdown Panels and complete solar install minus storage (including 14,000 B inverter) - 83,875 Storage (13.4 kWh) - 44,600 Total - 128,475 Expect about 10K of misc thing I'll end up adding to the system so i guess roughly 140k baht all in. Today at 8:30am (probably double the capacity at 1pm is sunny) had both ACs, 2 fridges, lots of electronics, and 440w pond pump running. Solar was able to match the roughly 2.5 kW! Yesterday no sun and it still managed to almost keep up with my needs. Used only 1.5 kWh from the grid. The ROI because of my meager electric needs of 300-450 units will be somewhere around 6 years if using my current needs. There are other benefits though! I can drop my AC to 24c and precool my exercise room for basically free. Run my pond pump all 6 hours a day instead of a couple. If I did all the above pre solar I would have used ~700-800 units and my ROI would be 2-4 years. Hard to put a value on the extra benefits of solar so I'll just go with a 6 years ROI 🙂 So far all good but still have to hookup storage this week. Should end well 🙂

Not a the best choice for exercise here but it is fun. To many emergency rooms over 20 years here and in 2015 said no more after barely surviving the last. Two crusty carbon bikes with Ultegra components sit in storage.

Not a the best choice for exercise here but it is fun. To many emergency rooms over 20 years here and in 2015 said no more after barely surviving the last. Two crusty carbon bikes with Ultegra components sit in storage.

Wasn't asking for your advice. You would be one of the last people I would go to for advice regarding EVs for obvious reasons 🙂 Not an insult and the pic is funny.

@bandersnatch They are also surpassing Tesla in battery production. I'm going to using CATL batteries for storage. Still putting together the details on how and who I will ne getting the sells from but think it will workout. Won't be as pretty like your storage setup but should work I hope. No Youtube vids of me tripping over cables 🙂

My in laws are great for the most part but a temple trip is hellish regardless of the company. I would never be expected to join them. I'll have lunch and dinners with visiting in laws but it isn't required and can easily tell them I'm busy. If you respect them and they respect you then in most cases everybody gets on with there life.

I've watched a few of your vids a couple weeks back. The EV supplying energy to your home is interesting. My brother in the USA mentioned it yesterday and thought it was something that wasn't available yet but Tesla was soon to provide the capability. I told him other companies already can do it but he wrote it off because he thinks Tesla drives the market. He had never heard of BYD and he has a Porche EV. Funny world... Not just considering solar as you suggested. Currently a group of 4 people is banging around on the roof installing 7.8 kWh. Not sure how much of all this will result in usable power but even 25% of the 7.8 kWh Panels and 12 kwh storage should cover my needs now (2-5 kWh usage ). EV I think in the next few years and more panels to charge. Funny, I'm not 100% sure all the panels and batteries will ultimately make financial sense but I would say I'm 90% confident. My numbers if correct have the new solar setup paying for itself in around 5 years. If I had an EV and consumed more power I would think it would be about 2-3 year. Fun to tinker around regardless. I try not to take this all too seriously. Only into it 125k baht for basically 8Kwh PV and 12 KWh storage. I'll find out maybe today if it actually works 🙂

It would be interesting if we had number of EVs still on the roads. In the USA the average ICE car on the road is 12 years which has increased dramatically the last 20 years. I have a 10 yo truck that drives just like a new one! That is anecdotal 🙂 and shouldn't be used to measure expected lifespan. Floods, accidents, lemon.... You can find data that supports 100k to 500k EV lifespan which is confusing. I "expect" from my semi-unbiased research that EVs manufacture in the last few year will at least match ICE's lifespan. Just my opinion from looking at the limited data with an open mind. The EV's that are on the roads 12 years from now won't be worthless as some suggest. Nissan leaves from over 10 years ago with terrible batteries and range(150k!) vs today are selling for roughly $5,000 to 8,000 (source google) ~30% of their original value . Most of these cars only provide around 50 miles ranges but there is a segment of the market that fits this range. So many ways to construct an argument either way but I bet in 5 years the data will confirm that EVS are the overwhelming best choice for consumers ( not businesses- I have no clue) that are only interested in economical functionality.

Doesn't that apply to most new ICE cars? EVs do have that nice shiny object vibe to them but that really never excites me much. I just care about the main function and for an EV that would be getting me from point A to B in the cheapest manner. Boring - yes but I save my energy for other facets of my life 🙂 My brothers EV in the states has lost 60k in value in the last 12 months. Definately a concern but he is more about image than me and bought a ridiculously expensive Porche. Maybe my past wealthy self would do that but the new me that lives in the sticks on a comfortable budget isn't interested in the slightest. It will be choppy transition from ICE to EV if it even happens but I do feel the probability is quite high it will. EVs have many issues at the moment but to not recognize the benefits IMO is stupid.

There is some truth to what you say above. Resale value is an issue for the reasons you "overstated". Your whole argument though comes crumbling down if your 6-10 year isn't realized. You state "SOME" reports "SUGGEST"... I think you can make my conclusions form what you wrote 🙂 It is much more complicated and in the end you just may be right but the probability is tiny considering the mountain of data that is accumulating on EVs. If you are determined to be right and don't consider the MANY that believe you are wrong what usually is the outcome? I'm a probability guy 🙂

After further thinking, I decided to add 2 more. Told him to bring more panels that we can add if after testing tomorrow or the next day. Strated at 90k budget a few days back and now am pushing through125k 🙂 Oh well

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OK, that is sad and it can happen. There is a lot to the above story but you have created your story and applied it to all situations regarding Farang relationships. Much more complicated than that?

Maybe, I'll take it for now and see where it goes then.

Good for you. So have posters here. They could survive alone but choose not to. To each his own. Your way is not the only way. You seem to have a huge ego that gets in the way of being happy. Your choice I guess...

Fortunate for them. Can't imagine how much fun you would be to hang around 🙂 The point was. slow down and think this through, they have many options upon there spouses death. Hang with family, find someone new... I feel like I'm talking to an angry teenager.

Apparently that isn't working out for you. You come across as an angry sad person. One of those types that you feel sorry for even when they behave like a jerk. You know, the pathetic inauthentic type that try to be cool but every sees through it.

You really lack any sense of humor. When is the last time you have caused a laugh or even a polite smile. It's OK dude - life probably can't get anymore depressing than this state your in. Cheers 🙂