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@ Ricardo

Class 2 contributions are for self employed only.

Class 3 contributions are voluntary contributions to fill gaps in your record in order to qualify for state pension.

Your entitled to pay Class 3 even when living abroad, provided you made at least 3 years contributions in the UK (which you have).

https://www.gov.uk/voluntary-national-insurance-contributions/who-can-pay-voluntary-contributions

I should contact HMRC again. Currently £13.90 a week for class 3 though.

Who has 'right of way' on a Roundabout?.............never a 'straightforward' answer is there!

maderaroja, on 23 Mar 2015 - 18:33, said:maderaroja, on 23 Mar 2015 - 18:33, said:

May I have a copy of the two photos attached to your post, please?

khunPer, on 23 Mar 2015 - 18:13, said:khunPer, on 23 Mar 2015 - 18:13, said:

I build a house about 5-6 years ago. If it can help in reply to your questions, here are some of the things I did:

1. Best use of sun etc.

Solar panel for hot water seem to pay off. Think price is close to what I paid, around 40,000 baht for a solar panel with 200-liter hot-water tank; can be extremely hot during days with lots of sun. If you can place the solar panel low, you don’t need a pump; if you have the solar panel on roof, you may need circulation pump that can be controlled by a daylight switch (i.e. off when dark or even very cloudy) and a timer switch, if constant running pump the water may be boiling hot. A timer also saves main power, if only operation 15 or 30 minutes an hour – can just be a simple mechanical timer.

Solar panel for electricity has to be calculated very well, may not (yet) pay off as investment.

2. Insulation

Use so-called comfort-blocks or Q-blocks from Cement Thai (HomeMart), that’s aerated concrete blocks (original brand name: Gasbeton), see Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoclaved_aerated_concrete.

That’s a fairly new product in many countries and has only been in Thailand some 10 years – don’t know where you originate from, but I’m from Scandinavia, so “Gasbeton” is considered an old standard product (invented in the 1920’ies) used almost everywhere.

Either single- or double wall saves on aircon and also gives an almost constant indoor temperature. I made double walls (to avoid visible posts) and Q-block walls for all aircon-rooms, and wall exposed to sun heating. You can even fill the space between the two walls with mineral wool (Rockwoll), but that may be overdoing it. Q-block costs 3 to 4 times more than the cheapest building blocks, but I think it’s worth the investment. Furthermore very easy to work with and later install things on (plug and screw), as they are solid.

Top floor ceilings, exposed to heat from sun – or ceilings under a balcony or terrace – there it’s worth placing some insulation on top of the ceiling gypsum board; just a reflecting aluminum-foil can do wonder, and you can also but several types of double foils filled with about 50mm mineral wool between the foils.

3. Airflow

Airflow is healthy – also for construction and important under ceiling – but airflow should be possible to stop in rooms with aircon, when aircon is in use. Depending on location and architecture, often windows (eventually with mosquito net) and doors (folding or slide doors) can give enough airflow. In older Thai houses airflow was important, as they were not designed for modern fans and aircon – I did read a bit about the typical Thai house construction, before I designed my house here – but if you build more contemporary, then just common sense for good ventilation may do it. However in bathrooms, and other wet-rooms, airflow or ventilation is very important. I used a double-system, with both a normal ventilation grille and a grille with fan (switched on together with the light), as I did not wanted bathroom windows that could be opened (I used glass blocks for design reasons).

4. Roof that keeps the house cool

Right under the roof tiles you can place a heat reflecting aluminum foil – that makes a huge difference.

May I please suggest, that you take a talk with HomeMart Cement Thai Roof Center – you will anyway need to look for various design of tiles, or rood plates, and check price levels – they can do a complete roof-installation. It’s also good information to have when comparing quotes from other suppliers.

In my case we had already decided for a roof tile from cement Thai, and my building constructor kindly offered to put the roof tiles on for free. I wished to get price and some information about insulation from Cement Thai, and realized how much was involved in making a good roof, especially so it’s watertight. The Roof Center said, they could install all, and I realized they could even do the steel work in galvanized steel; also a new products in Thailand. I got a complete quote, including steel – very detailed as the plotted my house drawing into their computer animation, and out came a complete roof construction down to minor details. What surprised me was the installation costs – and as the galvanized steel were lighter and therefore cheaper in total than a normal steel construction, it was only a very small extra costs to have it all made be Cement Thai – even my kind building constructor would put the roof tiles up for free – and on top I would have a 5-year warranty. The latter I considered important, having a friend who recently finished building a house and now “boxing” with his constructor about the rainwater coming through the roof – he ended up with cement of his roof, cement that will end up cracking in a few years, he said. I could even imagine, if I could not find my building constructor a year later, when the roof leaks, whilst Cement Thai may still be around and me holding a written guarantee; and in real life the Cement Thai roof-salesman came himself a year later and checked that everything was Okay...

5. Style and conveniences

That I would say is a design question and what you decide for finishing and installations, i.e. floor and wall tiles, kitchen-style – Thai or European or both – and hardware etc.

I spend quite long time considering my options and compromises with budget and actual space, tried to imagine what I would be like in the house, and what we needed, and where, and so on...

And when it comes to convenience, it’s not only a question of use, but also maintenance; i.e. you are going to live in the house and maintenance becomes your problem – for the constructor or craftsman it’s a question if it works or not when he finish it, not what happens a year or five later. I say that from experience, and it may not only count for Thais, but seems often to be the case in Thailand that more installations are fixed with silicone, rather than the best solution; which can also be a kind gesture to save you money instead of buying another expensive fitting...

My experience learned me – and I looked at my few mistakes – that it’s not always and question of buying expensive brand name products; some times more common and little cheaper products are a better solution, at least in Thailand. In general don’t make anything too fancy, keep it simple – it can still look classy and nice.

Also things like the size of kitchen drain pipes and if you can clean or flush the drain is important – it’s your problem a year or two after the house is finished, and I presume no one likes to bang up cement floors in a fairly new house to fix some mistakes that could have been avoided.

If you plan to have a water tank, think of height for pressure, and eventually some circulation in the tank, to keep water clean and fresh – a small aquarium pump letting air into the water may do it (I use that together with a ceramic filter and UV light).

In general, it’s worth being an active part and if possible, check as much as possible. I had good preparation experience from reading the book “How to Buy Land and Build a House in Thailand” by Philip Bryce (Paiboon Publishing), not that all he tells about his house construction could be compared to mine, but there were many really good hints to think about and avoid mistakes.

Wish you good luck with your project...

Put your cursor over one of the photos, then right click.

You'll get the option to 'save picture as'.

Save it to your pictures folder.

Repeat for other photo.

You can enlarge it from that folder or print it out.

oztaurus, on 23 Mar 2015 - 16:55, said:

so - hypothetically, how would immigration (in any country) handle someone on a yacht who leaves the country, sails around for a while without actually entering the territorial waters of another country, then sails back to the previous country of departure?

I presume you mean as in a private yacht?

Immigration wouldn't know ................... they are usually called smugglers.

Clarkson might be there................he's got no other appointments at present.

Expattaff1308, on 23 Mar 2015 - 14:07, said:Expattaff1308, on 23 Mar 2015 - 14:07, said:Expattaff1308, on 23 Mar 2015 - 14:07, said:Expattaff1308, on 23 Mar 2015 - 14:07, said:

Faz, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:46, said:Faz, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:46, said:Faz, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:46, said:Faz, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:46, said:

Sorry expattaf, I'm talking about two different subjects at once, that is;

1. The new state pension scheme coming into effect April 2016.

2. Access to private/company pension pots from April 2015.

From April 2016 pension credits and S2P will be scrapped and the qualifying period extended to 35 years in order to receive the new flat rate pension.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-2634215/Why-millions-WONT-155-new-state-pension-theyre-expecting.html

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/181237/single-tier-pension-fact-sheet.pdf

For many expats the changes won't affect them because their pensions are frozen, regardless.

However some expats are still registered in the UK (if you know what I mean ) and don't yet receive their state pension, so the changes will affect them.

I don't agree that the majority of pensioners who receive a company pension will miss out. It's only those who were 'opted out' of the scheme, such as final salary pensions that will lose out on the state pension scheme, but they should make it up with the higher company pension they will receive.

I think we are confusing each other.

What I ment by the majority and those on company pensions..today they will only receive the current state pension of 115.95 whereas those who dont have a company pension can currently receieve a top up to take them up to 151.20 this is only paid in the UK currently known as Pension Credit.

When the new across the board pension is introduced it will only effect those not getting the pension at the time (like me Im 62) and its then that the 35 qualifying years will come into effect and that rate is yet to go thro Parliment. That then will do away with the pension credits.

Those who live here will receive the pension they get when they apply for life unless the anomily of the frozen pension is abolished unlike those in the UK who will still receive the annual increases.

I have a company pension, and at 65 will receive the state pension being 62 now I guess that I will receive the new across the board pension providing it goes thro parliment of course living in Thailand will not allow me to receive the annual increases unless as I stated the frozen pension wrong gets righted.

I'm also 62 expattaff.

I took early retirement last year and cashed in a private pension (25% lump sum and regular monthly income)

I also have a Company Pension which I decide to leave because of a guaranteed minimum income at age 65, regardless of contributions.

I didn't contract out of SERPS (State Earnings Related Pension Scheme) which later became known as the S2P (State Second Pension) so my private and company pensions have no bearing on my state pension.

I have 42 years NI contributions towards a state pension.

Assuming I had just turned 65 this month, I would receive the basic state pension of £113.10 + additional second state pension of around £80, making my weekly state pension £193.10 per week. ( I wouldn't qualify for pension credits)

According to what I've read and confirmed by the DWP, when I'm 65 I will receive the higher rate of either

1. The new flat rate pension scheme, or

2. The old rate pension plus my additional pension.

What I don't know is what those rates will be come 2018.

If your company pension scheme contracted out of SERPS then you made lower NI contributions, so will only get the lower state pension plus the value of your company pension scheme. Contacting out means you didn't qualify for the S2P scheme but should get a better company pension because the difference was added to that scheme.

However, the new rulings, and the higher flat rate pension scheme mean a lot of pensioners who were in schemes that contracted out could lose out by£40 a week because basically their company pension hasn't been hiked up like the state pension has, so the income gap will be reduced.

My private pension and company pensions have no effect on what I will receive as my state pension, except for being clobbered for tax.

To try and put it in perspective, if you reach state pension age before 6 April 2016 you will receive your state pension in line with existing rules.

From 6 April 2016 the new single tier state pension becomes effective (and subject to approval will require 35 qualifying years to receive full state pension)

For those who have already paid into the old scheme, but cannot make 35 years contributions into the new scheme, and will retire after 6 April 2016 but before 6 April 2051 (being the 35 qualifying years from 2016) will fall into the interim transitional change over period and should receive the higher rate of their entitlement.

pontious, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:43, said:

Faz, on 22 Mar 2015 - 19:47, said:

From April the new weekly State Pension will be guaranteed minimum of £151.20 for single people.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/double-inflation-boost-for-state-pension-with-additional-help-to-the-poorest

The rate at which you pay 40% tax will be raised to £41,865.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/293800/TIIN_8110_income_tax_personal_allowance_and_basic_rate.pdf

The first 25% of any personal Pension is tax free regardless of any other income.

Thereafter taxed at 20%.

You need to multiply your current 4 weekly payments by 13 to find out how much tax free allowance you have left.

Those already in receipt of personal pensions (annuities) will have to wait until 2016 before they have to make choices.

Each individual will have different circumstances, so no one answer is available for all.

Faz that PDF is out of date- the allowance is 10600 in April 2015.

There are two different sets of figures;

Those born after 5th April 1948 get an allowance of 10,600 and the 40% tax threshold is increased to £42,285.

Those born before 5th April 1948 get an allowance of 10,500 and the 40% tax threshold is increased to £41, 865.

Those figures alone tell you how the government are taking care of the more elderly and vulnerable people in our society.......................ah! there'll be to few and to old to complain about age discrimination.

wilkis333, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:07, said:wilkis333, on 23 Mar 2015 - 10:07, said:

If i go abroad and return ,notification of residence must be made every 90 days and the leaving date is the first day of 9 days? For the formal procedure,notification of R must be made every 90 days without exit. It seems two time noifications need to be done with short time?Your advice is highly apreciated.

If your on Non Imm O multi entry Visa, you must leave and re-enter Thailand every 90 days at one of the border crossings to reset your 90 day stay.

If your on a Non Imm O-A Visa, you can report to Immigration every 90 days, or cross the border and re-enter to reset your 90 day stay.

If your on an extension of stay you report to Immigration every 90 days, no need to leave Thailand.

On an extension you must obtain a re-entry permit to keep the extension period 'live' if you want to leave the Country. Your next report would be due 90 days from the date on your re-entry stamp back into Thailand.

Sorry expattaf, I'm talking about two different subjects at once, that is;

1. The new state pension scheme coming into effect April 2016.

2. Access to private/company pension pots from April 2015.

From April 2016 pension credits and S2P will be scrapped and the qualifying period extended to 35 years in order to receive the new flat rate pension.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-2634215/Why-millions-WONT-155-new-state-pension-theyre-expecting.html

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/181237/single-tier-pension-fact-sheet.pdf

For many expats the changes won't affect them because their pensions are frozen, regardless.

However some expats are still registered in the UK (if you know what I mean ) and don't yet receive their state pension, so the changes will affect them.

I don't agree that the majority of pensioners who receive a company pension will miss out. It's only those who were 'opted out' of the scheme, such as final salary pensions that will lose out on the state pension scheme, but they should make it up with the higher company pension they will receive.

This is a recent leaflet being handed out by the Consulates in the UK to explain the criteria.

Those who retire after April 2015 and have private/company pensions will be allowed the option of taking their annuity funds as a lump sum, or sums.

(Available to those aged 55 or over)

Those already receiving private/company monthly pensions from their annuity 'pot', will be allowed to sell their annuity fund for a lump sum after April 2016.

There is no further information on just how this will work yet............just speculation.

The S2P and Pension credits are scrapped under the new scheme. A new flat rate of £155.20 is payable to those who qualify.

As I previously stated each and every person will face a different scenario depending on their circumstances.

For example those who haven't got 35 years contributions, or those on final salary schemes who were 'opted out', or those with frozen pensions will suffer.

These new rules apply to anyone retiring after April 2015. Those already in receipt of state pension will get a real bag of 'dolly mixtures' figures.

Pension changes 2015

• People aged 55 and over can withdraw any amount from a Defined Contribution (DC) scheme, subject to income tax
• Tax changes make it easier to pass pension savings on to descendants
• Many people with Defined Benefits (DB) schemes will be allowed to transfer to DC plans
• All retirees will have access to free guidance from the government's Pension Wise service
• Existing annuity holders unaffected for the time being, but there are plans for them to be able to sell their annuity

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31981900

It could benefit those aged between 55 -60 who have a private/company pension and are thinking of taking early retirement.

For those already getting state pensions, or already taken early annuity pensions, it needs some serious consideration and tax calculations.

Of course if we knew what age we'd live to, it would make decision making easier.

I posted link in an earlier thread that explains some of the many options and considerations.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/tables-reveal-tax-bill-pension-071826906.html

From April the new weekly State Pension will be guaranteed minimum of £151.20 for single people.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/double-inflation-boost-for-state-pension-with-additional-help-to-the-poorest

The rate at which you pay 40% tax will be raised to £41,865.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/293800/TIIN_8110_income_tax_personal_allowance_and_basic_rate.pdf

The first 25% of any personal Pension is tax free regardless of any other income.

Thereafter taxed at 20%.

You need to multiply your current 4 weekly payments by 13 to find out how much tax free allowance you have left.

Those already in receipt of personal pensions (annuities) will have to wait until 2016 before they have to make choices.

Each individual will have different circumstances, so no one answer is available for all.

jwpen, on 22 Mar 2015 - 10:43, said:

I have a related question about 90 day reporting. My next report is due on June 2 but next week I need to visit the immigration office to apply

for a 1-year extension of stay based on retirement. My question is: does my visit to immigration next week reset my 90 day clock or am I still

required to report my address on June 2? I am leaving the country on June 12 so would like to avoid an unnecessary trip to immigration if possible.Thanks.

Amnat Charoen will reset your 90 day report date provided you complete a TM47 and submit it at the same time as your extension application.

berybert, on 21 Mar 2015 - 15:48, said:

Suradit69, on 21 Mar 2015 - 15:31, said:

djayz, on 20 Mar 2015 - 20:22, said:

Get a cat or two... don't over feed it/them, problem solved. Mice and rats generally don't hang around when a cat is in the immediate area.

Cats can be well-fed (and should be) and will still catch rats and mice. They're hard-wired to do it. Not a function of hunger. If they are hungry they'll travel further afield in search of food and not be around to offer rodent eradication services to you alone.

Not every cat has the same wiring.

Funniest video clip I've seen in ages. Hilarious, had me in tears of laughter.

Now that cat was a real 'pussy'.

elviajero, on 21 Mar 2015 - 16:27, said:

Faz. Thanks very much for the Police Order.

I can't find anything in this order that mentions 90 day reporting. Please would you point me in the right direction.

@elviajero

If your specifically looking for information on 90 day reporting, then other than the Immigration Act, there is only the Thai Immigration Bureau Website and a recent update notification that I am aware of.

Homepage Immigration Bureau: http://immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

Notification of Staying in the Kingdom over 90 days: http://immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=90days

Notice: 90 Day Notification pdf file (attached)

Other links you may find of general interest are:

Immigration Forms for downloading (Word and pdf): http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download

Thai Civil Registration Act: http://www.samuiforsale.com/law-texts/thailand-civil-registration-act.html

Police Order 138_2557 - Document Checklist

(Do a google search - exceeds upload capacity)

90day_notification.pdf

elviajero, on 20 Mar 2015 - 17:47, said:

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ubonjoe, on 20 Mar 2015 - 09:08, said:

All you have to do is read the title of the TM47 form. The primary purpose is to report staying longer than 90 days. The place where you live is secondary.

TM47 title "FORM FOR ALIEN TO NOTIFY OF STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS"

The purpose of TM47 is to comply with Section 37,(5) of the immigration act. Which is to; notify, immigration division, in writing, every ninety days, concerning his place of stay.

What immigration call TM47 isn't important although it's title is clearly causing misunderstanding to it purpose. It should be called something like; 90 DAY NOTIFICATION OF ADDRESS. Because thats what it is.

When I complete form TM47 I notify in writing that; I HAVE NOW BEEN STAYING IN THAILAND FOR 90 DAYS AND MY PRESENT ADDRESS IS (address).

Having notified my present address I get a RECEIPT OF NOTIFICATION in my passport that says; PLEASE NOTIFY YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN ON (date). Neither it, or the law are asking me to "report staying longer than 90 days". Both are asking for me to notify my address every 90 days.

The title of TM47 is wrong and misleading. The primary and only purpose of TM47 is address notification every 90 days.

Catch 22.

The way I always interpreted the rules is that PROOF of address is only required for an extension of stay.

90 day reports are to notify of staying longer than 90 days and confirming your address. (No proof required)

Your both correct depending on whether you read the Immigration Act or Police Orders...........that's Thailish for you!

You're right that proof of address is only required when applying for the extension of stay.

You are staying longer than 90 days but the address notification is required after 90 days. There is a difference. The only place I can find it written "to notify of staying longer than 90 days" is in the title of the TM47 and I beleive that's mistake because it doesn't reflect what is being declared on the form. But if my explanation doesn't convince you then I guess nothing will. I respect Joe's immense contribution to TV and his knowledge, but it doesn't mean he's right about everything.

Where would I find the Police orders?

Police Order 327-2557 (2014) - extension criteria & conditions en - immigration.pdf

maidee, on 19 Mar 2015 - 12:59, said:maidee, on 19 Mar 2015 - 12:59, said:

you can always just skip this 90 day reporting thing

what is the worst that can happen ?

Big fine.

Refusal to do any further extension of stays.

Blacklisted for entry on a Visa.

For the time it takes me to have a sh*te, shower and shave, I can complete a TM47, take a few copies, whiz down to the post office and mail it............no big problems or hassle. Of course I have the right to return to my own Country if I don't want to comply with their Immigration rules, or become an 'illegal' alien and spend time in a detention centre while I'm waiting for deportation.

I'm gonna have another cuppa and think about your suggestion

elviajero, on 20 Mar 2015 - 13:13, said:

ubonjoe, on 20 Mar 2015 - 09:08, said:

All you have to do is read the title of the TM47 form. The primary purpose is to report staying longer than 90 days. The place where you live is secondary.

TM47 title "FORM FOR ALIEN TO NOTIFY OF STAYING LONGER THAN 90 DAYS"

The purpose of TM47 is to comply with Section 37,(5) of the immigration act. Which is to; notify, immigration division, in writing, every ninety days, concerning his place of stay.

What immigration call TM47 isn't important although it's title is clearly causing misunderstanding to it purpose. It should be called something like; 90 DAY NOTIFICATION OF ADDRESS. Because thats what it is.

When I complete form TM47 I notify in writing that; I HAVE NOW BEEN STAYING IN THAILAND FOR 90 DAYS AND MY PRESENT ADDRESS IS (address).

Having notified my present address I get a RECEIPT OF NOTIFICATION in my passport that says; PLEASE NOTIFY YOUR ADDRESS AGAIN ON (date). Neither it, or the law are asking me to "report staying longer than 90 days". Both are asking for me to notify my address every 90 days.

The title of TM47 is wrong and misleading. The primary and only purpose of TM47 is address notification every 90 days.

Catch 22.

The way I always interpreted the rules is that PROOF of address is only required for an extension of stay.

90 day reports are to notify of staying longer than 90 days and confirming your address. (No proof required)

Your both correct depending on whether you read the Immigration Act or Police Orders...........that's Thailish for you!

UPDATE OF VISIT TO AMNAT CHAROEN.

Firstly, it appears that they made a real pigs ear of my friends 90 day report.

The new ruling officially starts from Monday 23rd March 2014.

That order states aliens should make 90 day reports at the Immigration Office where their Extension was issued..........UNLESS, they change residence to another province under the jurisdiction of another Immigration Office, in which case having complied with the Immigration Act for address reporting, their new Immigration Office will allow the alien to continue to make reports to that office until such time as their extension expires.

Where the alien has not complied with the Immigration Act for notifying a change of address (TM28), or the house owner has not notified of an alien at staying at their residence (TM30) then the alien will be referred back to the Immigration Office where the extension was issued.

In my friends case he had;

1) Notified the local Police station in Roi Et of his new address within 24 hours using form TM28 and form TM30. They issued a Certificate of Residence and returned the signed notification slips.

2) On the date of his next due 90 day report, attended Amnat Charoen with another completed TM28 and TM 30 forms and the Certificate of Residence and notification slips from Roi Et Police Station as proof of following the Immigration Act for address reporting.

Amnat subsequently completed his 90 day report and changed his address on the database.

So what went wrong?

After a 30 minute personal conversation with the senior Immigration Officer at Amnat we established that;

1) His postal report should not have been refused even if he hadn't complied with the correct procedure for reporting a change of residence, because the new ruling isn't in effect until 23/3/15.

2) There is no information stored on the database, other than your registered address, that would indicate to an Immigration Officer that you had complied with the procedure as opposed to just a verbal notification of another address.

3) The officer dealing with the 90 day report did not check my friends file to ascertain that he had completed and submitted the relevant documents.

(In fact they found they had the TM30 form which they previously stated was the case of the refusal)

There followed a short 10 minute personal conversation between the senior officer and 3 of his staff going through my friends file.

I personally think he used this case as an example to show his staff how it should have been dealt with under this new ruling and the fact they manually need to check an individuals file where the request to complete a 90 day report is at a different office to the one that issued the extension.

The outcome was a profound apology from the senior Immigration Officer and they completed his 90 day report...........so that saved a trip to Savannakhet!

By the way, he indicated that online reporting to any Immigration Office would be available within the next 6 - 8 weeks.

CONCLUSION.

I would advise anyone who has changed residence and now reporting every 90 days to a new office to also send copies of the notification slips from forms TM28 and TM30 along with their other documents to make it obvious you have complied with changing address.

Yes, the Immigration Office should check your personal file to ascertain this information..........but it appears receiving a request to do a 90 day report at one office and an extension issued by another office is currently causing confusion for Immigration Officers and Offices.

How online reporting will operate and whether documents can be 'attached' to applications is anyone guess.

Tassie Norm, on 18 Mar 2015 - 17:13, said:

Perhaps slightly off topic however, for curiosity and bemusement sake, I pass this on. Attended an SCB branch - where I have had an account for 3 years plus and plenty of cash movements. I was with my Thai wife and wished to open an additional account to keep separate funds. QUOTE You now require a yellow book to open an account. Eh! Well whilst I am eligible to apply for such an item it seems ridiculous. Many authorized expats do not qualify for a yellow book. Just this branch I wonder who may have misinterpreted 'new' junta requirements. Any one out there encounter this? Cheers

ALL foreigners with Visas or Extensions are entitled to a Tabian Ban (Yellow Book).

Thai Civil Registration Act (No.2) B.E. 2551

Section 21. Section 38 of the Civil Registration Act B.E. 2534 shall be repealed and replaced by the following:

“Section 38. The district or local registrar shall issue a household registration for persons without Thai nationality having been permitted to stay temporarily and those having been giving leniency for temporary residence in the Thai Kingdom as a special case in accordance with law on immigration and the declaration of the Cabinet and their children born within the Thai Kingdom. In a case of permission of temporary residence overdue, the registrar shall immediately dispose of such persons.

The Director of Central Registration shall make profile registration for persons without Thai nationality besides those under paragraph one in accordance with the declaration of the Cabinet.