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elviajero, on 06 Apr 2015 - 14:05, said:

Faz, on 06 Apr 2015 - 13:50, said:

I think it will only accept one application from an IP address at a time.

How else is it going to identify your application other than identifying your IP address.

If you have a friend with a PC try and make the second application on his PC.

It will at least rule out my theory if it still won't work.

You could ring 1111 to enquire about your problem.

It's possible, but I doubt they'd do what you suggest. There are many couples and families that report at the same time so it wouldn't make sense for the developer to restrict the number of applications made from the same IP address.

Aaaaah but it is a Thai developer, that obvious from the spelling errors............do you think he thought about couples and families?

How else will there system recognise your application and where to respond to other than your IP address.

How would multiple applications from one PC be segregated for approval.

Names, addresses and details will be checked manually.

On the application I arrived by 'Airplane', on the pending notice I arrived by 'Airplan'

skatewash, on 06 Apr 2015 - 13:31, said:

JCauto, on 06 Apr 2015 - 12:55, said:

The second child is the form that won't go through, and simply provides a popup box in English saying "For further information regarding The 90-day Notification Report Service, please contact the Immigration Branch Office in your residence area." The webpage behind it is completely blank when this popup box comes up, and there is nothing you can do but hit "Okay" at which point it returns to the first page submission it came from.

The only issue I can think of is that my son's 90 day report is due on 11 April, whereas my daughter's is due on 15 April, hence there's more than a week before the one that went through, but less than a week for the one that didn't. Any ideas?

As you suspected, the first child is in the acceptable submission window, while the second child is not:

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Applicants can submit this online application within 15 days and not less than 7 days before the due date of notification

(From the terms and conditions you had to agree to before using the online 90 day report.)

I think it will only accept one application from an IP address at a time.

How else is it going to identify your application other than identifying your IP address.

If you have a friend with a PC try and make the second application on his PC.

It will at least rule out my theory if it still won't work.

You could ring 1111 to enquire about your problem.

rawhod, on 06 Apr 2015 - 08:39, said:

Pattaya46, on 04 Apr 2015 - 13:47, said:

Faz" data-cid="9267832" data-date="Today, 09:26, on 04 Apr 2015 - 09:26, said:

If your going to stay in Thailand it's worth considering the effort to get your own proof of address as it can save so much time, effort and cost in the long run

Hi. In my case it costed me a lot of time and 3 visits to try and don't manage to get it at Pattaya. The employee 3rd time admited I would not get one because not married to a Thai... It was in 2008, and I since heard of single guys who managed to get one though... Maybe I could try again?

But after 8 year living here, I would have need it only once: to buy my bike. A letter from immigration was OK. So I can't say the Yellow Book would be useful for me.

I have had a similar experience to Pattaya46.

I have made 4 trips to our Kweng in Nong Hoi, Chiang Mai.

First time...They said we needed 2 witnesses

Second time... we had 2 witnesses but they said we needed to be married.

Third time...We were married and had 2 witnesses but they said we needed an extra witness who was a government employee

Fourth time...We had a government employee witness lined up but they said we needed to have children.......

Talk about "moving goal posts"

Sounds like you have an Amphur that doesn't know the rules or procedures.

It's much easier to make excuses rather than lose 'face' by not admitting they don't know what there doing.

Of course they could always pick up a phone to check with a higher authority, but again they lose face by appearing stupid.

Unfortunately that happens a lot in Thailand.

She acted irrationally.............yeah, but she is a blonde.

steven100, on 06 Apr 2015 - 08:19, said:

sinbin, on 04 Apr 2015 - 16:50, said:

My report date is 21st. Are they taking into account the full week holiday for Songkran in the 15 working days time span for submitting ones report? Should I submit my report on the 7th?

My report date is the same. Are you going to try online or a trip to immigration ?

So can it be submitted from April 6th - 14th ( thats between 15 & 7 days before ) but thats including weekends ? Am I correct on those dates ?

Thanks.

You can apply from 15 days before up to 7 days before your due date. (Holidays / weekends don't come into the application procedure)

Processing your completed application will begin within 7 working days. (Holidays / weekends will effect the processing times)

Until reports start to come in of the processing times, I'd be tempted to apply 15 days before the due date. That should leave sufficient time to get your 'receipt' by or before your due date allowing for weekends and holidays.

I've used the local Government hospital once.

After registration (passport only required)

Consultation, diagnosis and medication for 30 baht.

Another friend has used their services for the last twelve months.

Two visits a week, consultation, 90 minutes of physiotherapy and medication.

30 baht each visit.

Health care is a bit of a sham at the moment. Some years ago there was talk of the introduction of a health scheme to cover expats for an annual fee, but it fell by the wayside under the political turmoil of the previous government.

Meanwhile, without any clear guidance from above, the government hospitals are treating foreigners for exactly the same cost as citizens providing you are registered with them. Thai taxes pay for the subsidised health care scheme.

TOP IMAGE: Normal Government Hospital Registration card.

Advantages.

No medical required and no fee to pay.

Consultations, minor treatments and medication for 30 baht in most cases.

Disadvantages.

Possible long waiting times.

Shared general wards (private wards are available at extra cost)

No food or drink facilities available if admitted

BOTTOM IMAGE: Health Scheme for Foreigners card.

Now ceased (July 2014) other than for Cambodian, Lao and Myanmar workers.

Wrongly offered to all foreigners for an annual fee.

paz, on 05 Apr 2015 - 17:11, said:

Faz, on 05 Apr 2015 - 08:58, said:

The other option is to register at your local Government Hospital and get a registration card.

You will then be charged exactly the same as a Thai.

30 baht for visits and appropriately for surgery.

Much cheaper than private hospitals.

What are the requirement for registration? Why one would be charged as a Thai if as you explained before, the program is not available anymore ?

Hi Paz, there is a Universal healthcare system that is available to all Thai's. It's commonly referred to as the 30 baht scheme.

All you need is your ID to register and be issued with a hospital ID card.

There was a separate scheme introduced specifically for Lao, Cambodian and Myanmar workers, which the authorities called the 'Health Scheme for Foreigners' which the hospitals originally took to mean all foreigners. For a small annual fee you received a full annual medical check and discounted medical treatment.

Last year when the Junta took control the error was discovered and the hospitals were accordingly informed and ceased the scheme, excepting the workers it was supposed to cover.

Any foreigner can register at a Government hospital, just the same as a Thai. Although there is no Government health scheme available to foreigners in Thailand, it seems that due to a lack of instruction and administration from the top, the government hospitals only charge a foreigner the same fees as a Thai.

In most cases that will be 30 baht for minor treatment and medication.

It's a loophole that might get plugged one day, but it currently works in our favour.

Read the links provided above. Interesting reading.

I know that Police stations in provinces where an Immigration office isn't located will issue them.

Don't know about BKK. All you can do is ask at the district Police station. Tell them what it's for.

elviajero, on 05 Apr 2015 - 13:26, said:

Jip99, on 05 Apr 2015 - 09:33, said:

90 day reporting on line is ONLY and most definitely for anyone on a 12 month extension.

It's most definitely not only for 12 month extensions.

Anyone staying in the country longer than 90 days has to report their address every 90 days, and can now report online.

Unless they have PR status.

My online report has been pending since 2nd April.

My report date is 9th.

I planned a trip to Immigration on 8th and I'll stick with that plan.

We don't yet know the online processing times, but as reports from TV members come in, we'll find out.

I'm taking it from the guidance notes Joe.

• Once an application has been completed by the applicant. Application status is 'in progress'.
• This processing time begins when the Immigration has received your completed application form within 7 working days.

The 7th and final working day will be Tuesday 7th after his submission on 26th March.

ubonjoe, on 05 Apr 2015 - 09:26, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 23:08, said:

It only went active on 1st April, so why would you apply on 26th March.

It was work in progress up to the 1st April.

Why not do it.

The system was working to where he got the verification number. If had been able to get to the verification point in early March I would of gladly tried and waited a few days to see if I got the approval.

Well zydeco should find out on Tuesday 9th April, that being the 7th working day after his 'pending' confirmation.

You are referring to what was known as the 'Health Scheme for Foreigners'.

That scheme was misinterpreted by the hospitals and was stopped in June 2014. Some hospitals will still honour their responsibility until your current card expires, but they won't renew it again. Other hospitals refunded the payments to the foreigners.

The scheme is still operational but now only for those it was originally intended for, that is Lao, Cambodian and Myanmar workers.

Some expats can get free Health Care by virtue of being married to a Government Official or Officer, because their private scheme can cover family members.

The other option is to register at your local Government Hospital and get a registration card.

You will then be charged exactly the same as a Thai.

30 baht for visits and appropriately for surgery.

Much cheaper than private hospitals.

Please read the link I posted in #55 for further clarification.

It only went active on 1st April, so why would you apply on 26th March.

It was work in progress up to the 1st April.

nongsangcity, on 04 Apr 2015 - 22:13, said:

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Firefan, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:26, said:

nongsangcity, on 04 Apr 2015 - 11:42, said:

With the yellow book you can get on to the 30 baht health system......all my visits to hospital and tablets the only charge I receive is 30 bht.....I have had x-rays numerous blood test, tablets every month and the charge is 30 baht...doesn't cover any dentist work....

I am sure that the yellow book do not mean free health care. I think your hospital might not know the rules - so good for you - but I would like to see some official documentation on that ? cheers!

The hospital know the rules.....you need your yellow book, one photo, a blood test, urine test, x ray and a yearly fee of 1900 bht....this gives you access to the 30 baht scheme........many of my friends are on the scheme....a german friend smashed his ankle in 4 places....3 operation, two rods in his foot....had a bill for 65000 bht...he showed his thai medical card.....bill reduced to 30 bht...............so its not free health care as you said....its a yearly scheme....for 1900 baht and 30 baht a visit which covers everything apart from any dental work....

Please read this topic: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/739396-health-cards-for-foreigners-ceased/

That scheme finished last year and was never meant for foreigners, it was for workers from Cambodia, Loa and Myanmar.

sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 22:28, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:46, said:

sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:11, said:sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:11, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:52, said:Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:52, said:

Your second sentence is correct. The Yellow book is also recorded on the Blue book of the principal Thai resident.

And exactly how does that record show up.? There is no record of me in my wife's book.

There is no need. Both books have the same number and belong to the same house.

Chris is probably right in what he says that blue books are for permanent residents and yellow books for temporary residents of a particular property.

Sandy you and your wife are probably joint owners living at the same address hence your house registration number is the same.

Both books will still be registered at the local Amphur.

Many foreigners don't own their own homes.

If you live in the wife's home, or are fortunate and lucky enough to still be single and rent, then the Yellow Book has a different registration number to the Blue book owner, and the blue book number is recorded in the yellow book. Similarly the Yellow book registration is recorded at the Amphur under the Blue Book.

That's why the landlord/ or owner of the blue book has to attend and sign the application form.

Say something often enough and you consider it to be fact.

Actions speak louder than words.

I'm sure I mentioned in a previous post that only foreigners with PR status could be put on a blue book.

I cannot say what Condo owners receive, that is the exception to 100% foreign ownership.

chris1010, on 04 Apr 2015 - 19:10, said:chris1010, on 04 Apr 2015 - 19:10, said:

hi I have be told at pattaya that I have to report where I done my retirement visa, so your saying if I report to korat with my new address I will be able to do it there? what else would I have to show them other than the change of address form?thanks

The new ruling means you must do your 90 day reports at the Immigration office that issued your extension, UNLESS you move to a new permanent address in another province.

In that case you should complete a TM28 (change of address)

A TM30 (House owners notification of alien residing at that address.

These should be submitted at Korat within 24 hours of your move, to comply with the regulations.

For the change of address, I recommend you take the following documents.

1, Completed Form TM 28.

2. Passport + Copy of Homepage showing given names / Passport number / Hologram etc, plus

- Current Visa or

- Last Extension stamp and

- Last Entry Stamp

3. Copy of House owners Tabian Ban ( signed by the owner)

4. Copy of House owners ID card. (signed by the owner)

5. Rental Agreement + Copy (If rented)

6. Map detailing Address + Copy

7. Original TM 6 Departure Card + Copy

9 Completed form TM30

Once they have changed your address on the database you can submit the TM47 and do your report at the same time, assuming your within the periods of submission.

paz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 19:19, said:

thequietman, on 04 Apr 2015 - 19:16, said:

I tried to renew my licence last month. I was told I had to get a letter from immigration to prove I lived where I did. Presented yellow book and was given back. No good. Anyone else had this issue? New rules she told me from the new 'government.'

No comment on what is acceptable by DLT but the "new rules" is BS, used all the time as easy way to dismiss with an easy escuse

Should have asked to see a superior. New rules my backside.

And how does a Thai renew their DL............ID card and Tabian Ban.

sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:38, said:sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:38, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:24, said:Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:24, said:

sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:37, said:sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:37, said:sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:37, said:sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:37, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:22, said:Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:22, said:Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:22, said:Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:22, said:

What personal circumstances? Such as?

There is an Act covering this issue and the requirements are the same.

It is quite simple, there cannot be a "House owners Tabian Baan" when no Tabian Baans have ever been issued.

The Tabian Baan number is the house registration number, my Tabian Baan and my wife's Tabian Baan have the same number.

When we applied for the books it was the first issue on a new property and she had to hand in her old blue book so she could be issued with a new one.

This is completely different to someone living in rented property. Not all situations are the same.

As long as you have temporary permission to stay in Thailand then you are entitled to apply for a Tabian Ban.

It has nothing to do with whether you own, rent, are married or single.

The conditions are proof of ID (translated into Thai) and proof of address (deeds, landlords ID and Tabian Ban) and the witness of the owner of the Blue Book.

In your case Sandy your wife probably did the paperwork on your behalf because you were married, marriage certificate and registering the new house.

There's always more than one way to achieve the requirement for documentation.

Edit: I'm single, live in rented accommodation and had a Non Imm O Visa when I got my Tabian Ban.

I have not made any comment on eligibility,

Do not make statements about what my wife may or may not have done.

"There's always more than one way to achieve the requirement for documentation."

exactly as I said in the beginning, requirements can vary subject to circumstances.

I'll politely disagree Sandy. The requirements remain the same, it's what documents you supply to meet the requirement that can differ.

Take proof of address as a 'requirement' of Immigration.

There are a number of different documents available to meet the same 'requirement'

The documents differ, the 'requirement' remains the same.

That's as succinct as I can be.

sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 15:11, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:52, said:

Your second sentence is correct. The Yellow book is also recorded on the Blue book of the principal Thai resident.

And exactly how does that record show up.? There is no record of me in my wife's book.

There is no need. Both books have the same number and belong to the same house.

Chris is probably right in what he says that blue books are for permanent residents and yellow books for temporary residents of a particular property.

Sandy you and your wife are probably joint owners living at the same address hence your house registration number is the same.

Both books will still be registered at the local Amphur.

Many foreigners don't own their own homes.

If you live in the wife's home, or are fortunate and lucky enough to still be single and rent, then the Yellow Book has a different registration number to the Blue book owner, and the blue book number is recorded in the yellow book. Similarly the Yellow book registration is recorded at the Amphur under the Blue Book.

That's why the landlord/ or owner of the blue book has to attend and sign the application form.

sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:37, said:sandyf, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:37, said:

Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:22, said:Faz, on 04 Apr 2015 - 14:22, said:

What personal circumstances? Such as?

There is an Act covering this issue and the requirements are the same.

It is quite simple, there cannot be a "House owners Tabian Baan" when no Tabian Baans have ever been issued.

The Tabian Baan number is the house registration number, my Tabian Baan and my wife's Tabian Baan have the same number.

When we applied for the books it was the first issue on a new property and she had to hand in her old blue book so she could be issued with a new one.

This is completely different to someone living in rented property. Not all situations are the same.

As long as you have temporary permission to stay in Thailand then you are entitled to apply for a Tabian Ban.

It has nothing to do with whether you own, rent, are married or single.

The conditions are proof of ID (translated into Thai) and proof of address (deeds, landlords ID and Tabian Ban) and the witness of the owner of the Blue Book.

In your case Sandy your wife probably did the paperwork on your behalf because you were married, marriage certificate and registering the new house.

There's always more than one way to achieve the requirement for documentation.

Edit: I'm single, live in rented accommodation and had a Non Imm O Visa when I got my Tabian Ban.