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Some basics. To apply for a 1-year extension of stay based on retirement, there are a few requirements to be met. Firstly, you must have a Non Immigrant status (Non Imm O), not tourist status, which you currently have. Secondly, you'll need to transfer the equivalent of 800K THB funds from overseas and deposit in a Thai bank account, your sole name, so you'll need to open a Thai Savings account. Immigration offer a procedure to change your status when you entered as a tourist, to Non Immigrant to save going out of Country to obtain a Non Imm O visa. The procedure is here; VE-TV to Non O Retirement.pdf Probably easier to enter from S Korea visa exempt, which will grant a stay of 30 days and can be extended for a further 30 days, then follow the above procedure to obtain Non O. When the Non O is granted you'll be granted a further stay of 90 days. Within the last 30 days of that 90 days, you may apply for the 1-year extension of stay based on retirement.

No, it's recurring thread due to foreign tenants unable to accept they are just as responsible as the owner or landlord to file the TM30. Section 38 and section 4 of the Immigration Act make it abundantly clear who can be deemed responsible to file a TM30. A lawyer has already brought the TM30 to question and as a result Immigration issued new regulations in 2020 easing and amending the requirements of section 38 of the Immigration Act when it was and wasn't necessary to file a TM30.

Your point being what exactly? You're quoting a personal opinion from a commercial website with the only factual reference to section 37 of the Immigration Act, which is now defunct due to new Immigration TM30 regulations published in 2020. That sort of pre-dates that article prior to 2020 and is out of date with the information. If as you surmise it's the landlord's responsibility, why does the TM30 online registration site allow foreigners to register as a tenant/possessor of the residence.

And what part of the responsibility also being the 'possessor, tenant, or in any other capacity whatsoever' did you fail to understand.

Immigration should try copy and paste. The actual wording from the Immigration states; Section 38 : The house – master , the owner or the possessor of the residence , or the hotel manager where the alien , receiving permission to stay temporary in the Kingdom has stayed , must notify the competent official of the Immigration Office located in the same area with that hours , dwelling place or hotel, within 24 hours from the time of arrival of the alien concerned. Section 4 of the Act, then defines the house master as: “ House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house , whether in the capacity of owner , tenant , or in any other capacity whatsoever , in accordance with the law on people act. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf

Can you provide evidence of that?

Yes, as we have two, for two properties. The N.S.4. J or Chanote is a certificate of true ownership for land and the only true ownership land title deed.

I'm sure you have a 1-year extension of permission of stay, your Non O visa expired, but is relevant. The marriage should be dejure and defacto, meaning you live and stay together. However, if the wife will appear for the extension application, don't inform them and hope they don't do a house visit, then you should be OK.

No, the house books do not prove ownership, only who's registered as living there. The Thais use the house book registration system as a means of running census of the population. Each property has a house book with the registered address, but a Thai can only be registered once in one house book. It's the Chanute (title deeds) that prove ownership. If as you say it's the Father that owns the house, then you need a copy of the house book where he is registered as living, a copy of the house book where you're residing and a copy of the Chanute for your property as proof the Father owns it. It’s not an uncommon scenario in rented accommodation, Immigration are just being picky in your case.

Nothing to do with 'our' rules. The documents you complete make it clear you're applying to extend your permission of stay, and it's a permit, not a visa. I appreciate some have a more selective reading comprehension than others and fail to understand the differences. Using the correct terminology is not being pedantic, it's being correct. Calling those out who use, or correct, the terminology is being pedantic.

Others claiming it can be done and in the past as I noticed perhaps, but since 2019/2020 Immigration have been insisting you need to have a Non Immigrant status from a Non O type visa. There is no written procedure to change from a Non B to Non O at Immigration, the options being to leave and obtain a Non Imm O, or re-enter VE then apply for the change to Non O at Immigration. Police orders though are ambiguous simply stating Non Imm visa, with no specific type mentioned, so it may have been at their discretion previously, but the goalposts appear to have moved again.

Thanks, so the problem only stems from moving last year and not filing a TM30 due to an issue with the House book. I'm sure the issue will be resolved tomorrow. Good luck.

The OP, due to a TM30 problem.

If you know the difference, why refer to an extension of stay as a visa? A visa cannot be extended. A single entry is 'used' on entry, a multi entry expires on the 'enter before' date. Read the forms you complete, and you'll understand it's a 'permit' of stay you apply for.

No, it's stated in 5.3 of the requirements, "Evidence of foreign currency fund transferred to Thailand". VE-TV to Non O Retirement.pdf

Well, you have now!

Over 3K posts and you still believe you extend your visa. 😭

Are you applying for the extension based on Thai spouse or retirement? If Thai spouse do not advise Immigration, you are separated as the marriage must be dejure and defacto. Your husband should also be in attendance.

Short 30/60-day extensions are only applicable to tourists, not Non Immigrants. (Unless married to a Thai). If your extension application is refused, you'll be given a 7-day extension stamp to leave the Country and start over again.

That's one way to look at it, the other way is that the farang either didn't know the law, and/or too lazy and left it to others, but ignorance is not an acceptable excuse.

Who is exactly responsible for filing the TM30, why foreigners have been fined for non-compliance, has been discussed many times on this forum. Section 38 of the Immigration Act states it's the responsibility of the Housemaster, Owner, or the Possessor of the property are responsible. The 'Housemaster' is defined in section 4 as being; “ House Master ” means any persons who is the chief possessor of a house , whether in the capacity of owner , tenant , or in any other capacity whatsoever , in accordance with the law on people act. Immigration Act B.E. 2522 (1979) ENG.pdf

No. There are many Thai who own several domestic properties, but they of course can only be registered in one house book, meaning the house books that they have for other residential properties do not have their name in them. However, they will be named on the Chanutes of the other properties. If your landlord could explain the problem to Immigration, I'm sure they could inform him what form of documentation they'll accept. If a TM30 has never been previously filed, expect a fine.

Then you need the Father's house book and the Chanute as proof he owns the land the house occupies. You could also have the landlord speak to Immigration concerning the problem.

You need to read the whole thread you quoted. The OP of that thread (scoutman360) was not successful, he stated he was refused an extension based on retirement, and told he must exit the Country and obtain a Non O at CW. Page 2, posted Wednesday 6th March. Exactly as I've been saying!

Depends on the requirements of the Thai Embassy you're applying at. Thai Embassy DC requests an outbound flight ticket; https://washingtondc.thaiembassy.org/en/page/trsingle-entry Required documents to upload in the system (Large and clear JPEG or PDF format): Passport Biodata Page or Travel Document (Must be valid within 6 months from travel date) Photograph of the applicant, taken within the past six months Document indicating current location (driving license, bank statement, or proof of stay) Flight itinerary to Thailand and depart from Thailand. The itinerary must include the applicant's name, travel dates, airports, and flight number Proof of accommodation in Thailand, e.g. Accommodation bookings, invitation letters from family/friends in Thailand. The Thai Embassy in London only requests flight ticket to Thailand. https://london.thaiembassy.org/en/publicservice/84256-tourist-visa?page=5d6636cd15e39c3bd00072dd&menu=5d6636ce15e39c3bd000733c For Multiple Entries Multiple entries tourist visa, please click here A current passport with validity of over 6 months beyond the date of application A completed application form Two (2) recent photos of the applicant Original bank statement of the applicant showing a balance of at least £5000 (for 6 months) or a print out with official stamp of the bank A letter from the applicant's employer If you are self-employed, you self-assessment and a company registration document are required. A photocopy of the confirmed air ticket to Thailand A photocopy of the hotel reservation confirmation in Thailand Even then, there is no restriction on what date the return/outbound ticket should be dated. If you're applying for the METV then presumably you're looking at staying 6–9 months, then in most cases returning home, so what's the issue with providing an outbound ticket for the end of your stay.