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Can put all the safety measures and drinking bans you want in, if someone is f*xt in the head there is not much you can do to safeguard against it.
Of course there is.
For one, you don't employ them and give them the opportunity to take advantage of their position, no matter how small the position. He knew the train inside out! He knew how to take advantage.
Drinking bans is a must in all work environments, as is drug use, and not only in transport sectors. In most Western, if not all working environments, apart from pubs, drinking on the job is an instantaneously sackable offence. Thailand needs to take another look at the West; but then again, the West is not my Uncle! We're fine, aren't we lads. Yeah right! All's fine in the train carriages... CCTV will be implemented, maybe in 2024, when we next place orders for new trains.
Safety measures and drinking bans do go a long way; as does screening and vetting staff properly. Can't say there's not much can be done about it, if the perpretators are not even initially permitted to be on the job, and drunk/drugged up.
Edit: Prevention is better than cure. It just seems that Thailand is always looking retrospectively, and never planning ahead to before the sh!t hits the fan. Thailand does not want to be seen as learning from the West. Yet isn't that exactly what Rama V (King Chulalongkorn) actually did? He went to Germany and the UK, and brought back many ideas he implemented to improve Thailand, with his chief farang advisor in toe.
Correct me if I'm wrong but drinking and drug bans already exist for staff on trains. Would you expect some kind of mental assessment for all employees? I have never seen or heard of that in the west either.
BTW how did the wonderful west (UK) do with stopping Harold Shipman from bumping off anyone he felt like?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but laws exist for speeding, not wearing a helmet on a bike, changing lanes and overtaking on the inside, don't they? As for Shipman, you don't need to be so childish/
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I guess most of us here after some long years just got used to the smell of excrement oozing from open gutters, and the sight of rats running off our food??
Na! I don't buy that.
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What a disappointment, I admired her for "having a go " and coming last. Seems nothing is truly honest in sport these days.
Go way with you. Eddie the Eagle was top notch for his attempt... and he landed... albeit 40m away from where he started 555+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7MmJIy0bjo&feature=kp
Give him his due... he didn't pay to enter.... mind you, hardly surprising. We don't have 120m drops from mountains in GB, unless you want to jump off the sharp side of Snowdon.
Eddie was honest.. but SH!t...
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All Thai girls love snow... yet they hate the cold. Can't quite for out of Vanessa played in B flat most of the time, or A major... I think it must have been B flat on your back, judging by her skiiing results. Famous my arse,,, she's now known for fiddling though.
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Attention getter..
Looked like he had gone to sleep.
Wake up you still haven't finished answering the questions.
Wonder at what point in the questioning the slap was delivered ?
If it was after he had told them how he had raped the girl and chucked her out the window then it would be quite understandable for the cop to be disgusted enough to give him a whack, particularly if the cop had girls of his own.
Don't look like it did the rapist any harm.
I've seen worse by Thai teachers, in Thai classrooms.. this is nothing.
Edit: A video of them cropping off his tosser would well be worth distribution.
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Ayutthaya elephant poisoned for ivory
By Digital Content
AYUTTHAYA, July 11 -- A male elephant was found dead inside the compound of the Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal in this central province today, and the authorities believe the elephant was poisoned for its ivory.
Police officers from Ayutthaya Police Station inspected the scene at Suan Prik subdistrict, Phra Nakhon Sri Ayutthaya district, finding a male elephant named Klao, age 50, dead near a small woods, next to the elephant kraal. Both of its tusks were cut off and taken away.
The tusks were about 5-6 inches in diameter. Police believe the elephant was dead for at least 9-10 hours before being discovered.
The authorities surmised that the suspects must have drugged the elephant during the night and waited until it fell before cutting away its tusks.
Ayutthaya Elephant Palace & Royal Kraal owner Laithongrian Meephan said the deceased elephant came to live at the camp in 1999, but was kept for only special occasions as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant.
The owner said each tusk have been at least 1 metre in length.
He pleaded for the National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) to help with the case, as the council has asked for cooperation in restraining from possessing weapons, making it difficult to keep the culprits at bay.
At present, the police are inspecting whether the elephant was poisoned, and will track the suspects to ensure success in making an arrest. (MCOT online news)
-- TNA 2014-07-11
Looking at this poor elephant.... as he resembles a mighty elephant, Phraya Kotchasarn, the Great Elephant .it dosent look to much like the Mighty Elephant in this pic.... i say a decent feed would have done wonders..maybe it starved to death.. and someone ?, took the op to take the tusks
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My suggestion to the problem of rape and for those that are against capital punishment is:
Cut it off!
This will save on prison costs, please those against capital punishment, and the guy will never be able to do it again. Society will be protected. Problem solved.
Not quite. The guy would become even more crude, and use tools and god knows what to get his own back... he would revert to more sickening events.
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The mahout forgot to add first that he was paid to leave his elephant chained by the river and told not to come back till morning. There's no way these mahouts would leave their elephants out of sight.
Exactly the same crossed my mind. These mahouts sleep with their elephants; they are their bread and butter.
I hope the tusks are located, and then the mahout can live with his sin in some forgotten place, and without his financial gains. This was in Ayudhya, for god's sake, not the outback. Left by a river for the night my arse. It does not happen... unless there is motive!
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Here is the big whining for an elephant, but no one care how pigs for meat are treated or how the killings for halal beef is done....
You can do better than that!
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Who is this <deleted> PEEK, To many do gooders think they know it all, problem is NOT enough of the silent majority who want these pricks done away with get up and voice their opinions where its needed to be heard....
LETS BE HEARD....
We could do with Suthep on the case then?
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There's going to be one well pissed off police officer around there!
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Maybe the man from the UN is looking what the USA does inside and outside the country first.
When this is sorted out, he can take care of the smaller issues.
Aye. Like the next rocket to the moon.
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5 myths written about... great article.
Let's go with the facts, or even one of them. This <deleted>er raped and killed a 13 year old girl.
FACT: He won't be mentioned again once he's been executed, AND will NEVER be a martyr
FACT: He doesn't derserve a second chance, as he'd already done it twice - three times and out!
FACT: Execution does have an affect upon costs. The myth is rubbish, and I rubbish it here now. Each and every offender costs money. Get rid of one, and you save the very expensive cost of one. That is a FACT.
I could go on, but I bet there are a lot more logical facts in opposition to the few myths presented in the OP.
You seem to confuse FACTS with OPINIONS.
But lets go over your "facts":
1) where did you get the idea he will be a martyr when he is not executed?
2) guess that is not up to you but up to the judges and the rule of law
3) the myth is not rubbish as it has been studied already many times. The death penalty is more expensive then putting someone in jail for a very very long time. Maybe you should read up on it a bit before you "rubbish" something. Just google "cost of death penalty vs life sentence" and read the first 5-10 links that show up; you might learn something.
And please go on with logical facts because so far you are at zero...
1. I AM ENTITLED TO MY OPINION.
2. Continued living keeps one in the news... that is a form of martyrdom, in living on and being given the opportunity to be whitewashed in future.
3. The death penalty costs $US 83 FOR THE DRUGS. It is the trials and tribulations and court costs of those who maintain innocence that cost. The death penalty does not cost more than incarceration; any right minded basic home accountant can work that one out. This guy confessed. (Argue or not whether he was forced to). You need to read more about what you read about and actually see where the costs are incurred... before throwing trivia back at me.
Zero in your opinion... which you are entitled to!!
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Quote, "rapists-cum-murderers"
What's a 'rapist-cum-murderer' ..
... couldn't you reporters find a better term? Sickos. Cum is Latin, and an adjoining word, fine. You could really have made more effort in this case!!
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Seems the USA has it right!
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/child-rapist-killer-set-executed-fla-24488064
And there's quite a few executions per month! Halleluja, and I'm not even religious.
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they all ways go on about the right of life and human rights, this young girl was raped killed thrown out of a train window,where was her rights, and the suffering the parents and this young girls family must endure for the rest of there life, some one should ask the UN expert to talk to her family about the death penalty and get there opinion
Do you want justice or do you want revenge?
In a civilized society there is no place for revenge.
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There's a fine line between revenge and a piece of flesh! (c.f. Merchant of Venice, if you ever read it)
However, punishment befitting a crime, certainly in this instance, calls for his flesh! He took hers, godamn it - taking his flesh is not revenge, but it merely befits his crime!
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5 myths written about... great article.
Let's go with the facts, or even one of them. This <deleted>er raped and killed a 13 year old girl.
FACT: He won't be mentioned again once he's been executed, AND will NEVER be a martyr
FACT: He doesn't derserve a second chance, as he'd already done it twice - three times and out!
FACT: Execution does have an affect upon costs. The myth is rubbish, and I rubbish it here now. Each and every offender costs money. Get rid of one, and you save the very expensive cost of one. That is a FACT.
I could go on, but I bet there are a lot more logical facts in opposition to the few myths presented in the OP.
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Rubbish...
A well thought out and reasoned reply there.
I don't agree with capital punishment but not for all the same reasons as Mr Peek. That's just my opinion.
This terrible rape and murder has happened and nothing can take that back. It's for the courts to decide on the sentence although it should be borne in mind that this is a Buddhist country.
The other part of this is the ongoing problem of murder, rape and other crimes here and around the world. I do agree with the idea that capital punishment doesn't deter particularly in cases of a sexual nature. We've all been young and for men in particular we will remember how that can cloud our judgement. Fortunately most of us don't go that far. For some though that urge is much greater and the affect of drink and drugs in this case adds to the problem. I'm sure many of us have been drunk before but we never get this far out of hand but for some that happens. I very much doubt this man thought through the consequences of what he was doing. He's probably wishing he hadn't done it, now that it's too late. If capital punishment worked it would probably show in crime rates which as far as I know it doesn't.
We can't help this poor girl now but we can help her parents and we can try to make it less likely to happen again. Stricter rules on drinking and employment checks on the railway and other places will help but there is a need t educate people from an early age right from wrong.
Come on. Get real! We've all been young? Yeah, did we rape and throw a girl off a train? NO, WE DIDN'T. He chose to take alochol and drugs.. well I never took drugs... never in my life, and I like a beer. But I do neither become abusive nor does rape cross my mind. Of course, he didn't think the consequences... he didn't care. And that is the whole gist between the normal and the abnormal. Get rid of him I say, despite your postulation that he now feels remorse. He didn't look particularly remorseful on any pics I saw! As for education on right or wrong... it is clearly obvious that this animal is beyond that - he raped 3 - NOT 1. Lord knows if he's killed before. Why do you choose to defend him and his rights...?? He threw those rights away when he murdered and raped. DID HE NOT?
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"The UNFPA representative, however, said the UN opposed the use of capital punishment because it goes against human rights, particularly the right to life.
"Even if a person does heinous crimes, they still have the right to life," Peek said.So what happened to little miss' right to life. Kill the bastard.
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I wonder if his mates took bets he'd get across the croc infested water?
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'Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that.'
Bill Shankley
Thank god a boy from Rugby school once picked up a football and ran with it!
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Can put all the safety measures and drinking bans you want in, if someone is f*xt in the head there is not much you can do to safeguard against it.
Of course there is.
For one, you don't employ them and give them the opportunity to take advantage of their position, no matter how small the position. He knew the train inside out! He knew how to take advantage.
Drinking bans is a must in all work environments, as is drug use, and not only in transport sectors. In most Western, if not all working environments, apart from pubs, drinking on the job is an instantaneously sackable offence. Thailand needs to take another look at the West; but then again, the West is not my Uncle! We're fine, aren't we lads. Yeah right! All's fine in the train carriages... CCTV will be implemented, maybe in 2024, when we next place orders for new trains.
Safety measures and drinking bans do go a long way; as does screening and vetting staff properly. Can't say there's not much can be done about it, if the perpretators are not even initially permitted to be on the job, and drunk/drugged up.
Edit: Prevention is better than cure. It just seems that Thailand is always looking retrospectively, and never planning ahead to before the sh!t hits the fan. Thailand does not want to be seen as learning from the West. Yet isn't that exactly what Rama V (King Chulalongkorn) actually did? He went to Germany and the UK, and brought back many ideas he implemented to improve Thailand, with his chief farang advisor in toe.
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Police to patrol every half hour?
Who employs them, as much as the bed sheet changers?
Why not drive a train into Soi Cowboy, and see how far it eradicates things? I'd sure like to know which police captain is in control of that street. Maybe, better not, as Chalerm was last seen walking free at a funeral. He has a habit of visiting funerals, especially when his sons are in town.
Olympics: Four arrested in Slovenia over Vanessa Mae scam
in Thailand News
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Well my missus beats her hands down.. and has a brain too! She aint nothing special, unless you like snow.
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Edit: In fact, if you take a good look, she's one heck of an ugly frog.