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This thread is unusually quiet for such a news. It seems instructions have not been received yet.

A good paper about possible penalties for Trump. The WE is pro-GOP, but not necessarily pro-Trump, so the article is rather reliable. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/justice/trump-faces-espionage-act-and-obstruction-charges

He will make the same claim in a few hours, or days. He simply doesn't acknowledge any evidence which contradicts his claims.

It seems you missed this information: The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents he removed from the White House and kept at his Palm Beach, Florida property long after his term expired on 20 January 2021. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-indictment-espionage-prosecution-charges-b2353397.html

“I am an innocent man. I did nothing wrong,” Trump said in the video. ???????????? https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/08/politics/trump-indictment-truth-social-classified-documents/index.html

You started well until you claimed false equivalences between Thaksin and Trump.

The Justice who doesn't know the law.... Gag! I know it is said that shoemakers are always the worst shod, but.... ahem!

Well, if you are only looking for studies or statemengs which have been proven wrong, and ignore studies which have been proven roght, you can certainly find some. However, it has been shown that most past predictions have been rather accurate as concerns global warming. (I mean scientific prediction, not someone making a statement). Evaluating the Performance of Past Climate Model Projections "Model simulations published between 1970 and 2007 were skillful in projecting future global mean surface warming" https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2019GL085378 Not to mention the fact that these models have been improved over time.

Well, he's part of one of them.

Perceptions about it may vary.. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jul/24/josh-hawley-republican-senator-ran-running-capitol-attack-kansas-city-star

Totally fair and unbiased court decisions for political figures are a rare occurrence in Thailand. The Courts will likely be given instructions, and it won't be from the elected government which has nearly no influence on the Judiciary. I would guess that Thaksin has received some assurance that he will be cleared of charges, or only get a symbolic sanction. From where did this assurance come? I am not sure every possibility may be discussed.

Actually, the terrible message has already been sent to the world long time ago. It is that a President can try to overturn the outcome of fair elections, incite assault of Congress, ask officials to "find him votes", and lie about it for years, and still be covered up by his political party. It is totally ununderstandable in other Western democracies. Had something similar happened in countries such as UK, France or Germany, just to name a few, he would have been banned from his party and disqualified from participating in elections. And would probably be already indicted, if not convicted.

The beauty of this case, is that It's purely factual: - he took presidential records (documents), some of them related to national defence, (so two problems: presidential records+related to national defense) - he did it intentionally (his own words), - kept them - when asked to give back, he failed to give them all (that's when his legal troubles really started), - part of the documents have been hidden (likely on his demand), and found later during the "raid", - his lawyer signed a document lying about it (likely on his demand) - he is likely to have shown documents related to national defence to unaccredited persons. Note: when I write "likely", it means that Grand Juries have collected evidence and testimonies about it. If they decide to indict him, it would mean that testimonies and evidence have confirmed it.

It shows how low the bar is in the GOP sphere. Pence is admired for just doing his duty and follow the law.

Nobody claimed that! You are making things up, as usual. Here are some key elements of timeline: April 2014 – Hunter Biden joins Ukrainian firm Burisma April 16, 2014 – U.K. investigates Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma Feb. 10, 2015 – Viktor Shokin takes office as Ukraine’s prosecutor general, replacing Yarema. Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma Fall 2015 – Biden, along with the EU, publicly calls for ouster of Prosecutor General Shokin for failure to work on anti-corruption efforts." Full details here: https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/

And as usual...... 1. The Obama administration had been long complaining about Ukraine not investigating Busrisma, including before shokin was appointed. One reason was that they supported their UK allied which had been scammed by the Ukraine Justice system "April 2014 – Hunter Biden joins Ukrainian firm Burisma April 16, 2014 – U.K. investigates Burisma owner Mykola Zlochevskiy Feb. 3, 2015 — Obama administration conveys harsh criticism of Ukraine Prosecutor General’s Office for its coverup of Zlochevskiy/Burisma Feb. 10, 2015 – Viktor Shokin takes office as Ukraine’s prosecutor general, replacing Yarema. Sept. 24, 2015 – U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt excoriates officials in the Prosecutor General’s Office for stymying anti-corruption investigations, including those involving Burisma Fall 2015 – Biden, along with the EU, publicly calls for ouster of Prosecutor General Shokin for failure to work on anti-corruption efforts." Full details here: https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/timeline-trump-giuliani-bidens-and-ukrainegate/ 2. There had already been a GOP-led Senate committee investigation into the Hunter Biden and Burisma, and they concluded in 2020 that it had no effect on Obama's administration's policy.

Smart guys.... From your link: "The Independent has learned that prosecutors are ready to ask grand jurors to approve an indictment against Mr Trump for violating a portion of the US criminal code known as Section 793, which prohibits “gathering, transmitting or losing” any “information respecting the national defence”. The use of Section 793, which does not make reference to classified information, is understood to be a strategic decision by prosecutors that has been made to short-circuit Mr Trump’s ability to claim that he used his authority as president to declassify documents"

I can never get bored with it! ???? "No one has told me I'm being indicted," he wrote. He continued, "and I shouldn’t be because I’ve done NOTHING wrong, but I have assumed for years that I am a Target of the WEAPONIZED DOJ & FBI, starting with the Russia, Russia, Russia HOAX, the 'No Collusion' Mueller Report, Impeachment HOAX #1, Impeachment HOAX #2, the PERFECT Ukraine phone call, and various other SCAMS & WITCH HUNTS," Trump wrote." https://www.rawstory.com/trump-indictment-2661107859/

Aaaaah! Now we know why Comer did not want to talk about the content of the document! It's the old debunked Burisma conspiracy theory! ????

Why? - Russia is the main beneficiary as it de facto prevents Ukraine from invading occupied territories through the flooded areas, - the dam has been destroyed by explosives placed inside its structure. I know Ukrainians are smart, but It's difficult to do it without Russian noticing it. - the dam was unusually full.

B.S.! Who decides what is legal or not? The courts. If illegal, the courts had the power to oust them, as they did with Yingluck. They did not do it! Actually, that was one main reason for the coup. The courts had not been able to find a legal ground to oust the whole caretaker government, only Yingluck and a few ministers. The potential civil war is also a fairy tale. It was one side making trouble: the yellow one. On top of it, Suthep's mobs were spreading thin and had lost their nuisance power. The EC agreed to organise elections in July, so there was a democratic solution in sight. And That's why they made a coup. Not to oust an powerless caretaker government: they did it to prevent people from choosing their government! As to "broken elections", who blocked them? Suthep's mob coup failed, the Judiciary coup failed, so the only way to prevent elections in July was a military coup.

They don't even need to "meddle", as they belong to the same network. On top of it, there has been a major reset after the coup as all members of high courts and agencies (NAAC, EC, etc...) have been appointed or maintained in their position by the military and its allies. And it's not going to change because judges are not selected and appointed by the government.

From the Fox News article: The event warned parents to take into consideration some events were "a little more risque" than others. "Children are always welcome, but we leave it up to the parents for discretion on children attending. Both the Pride Festival and Parade are a little more risquè than other events. We encourage parents to take this into consideration," the website added. The weekend festival had at least two events catered to children. On June 3, a "Family Pride Zone" that was "designed especially for families" offered games, face painters, puppeteers, bounce houses and vendors. The event also advertised a "gay magician" offering "some close-up magic" for children. https://www.foxnews.com/media/dallas-pride-festival-all-ages-sells-sex-toys-edible-penises-graphic-disney-art

Yet, according to an article you linked before, the industry cannot find enough workers, even when the wages are reasonable. How would it be possible to recruit more American workers for these extra jobs, as current job vacancies cannot be filled?? From your link: "More than 770,000 manufacturing jobs are open right now, according to the latest federal count, from November. The number has surged in recent years as companies reinvest in American-made products — or try to. With manufacturing workers earning more than $30 an hour on average, Timmons said the problem is not the pay, but the perception."

Even Barr agrees with you... "Over time, people will see that this is not a case of the Department of Justice conducting a witch hunt,” Barr said in an interview on CBS Tuesday. “In fact, they approached this very delicately and with deference to the president, and this would have gone nowhere had the president just returned the documents. But he jerked them around for a year and a half.” https://news.yahoo.com/barr-pushes-back-trump-not-184702634.html