richard_smith237

Yep…. I read the same… Lazy policing for sure… Certainly so in this case… (this story)… … though the other incident (bouncer beating the foreigner), I’m guessing they figured it’s just another night in Pattaya..

& he didn’t kick anyone in the nurs either…. (Nothing on any of the videos showed that)…. This was just a lie made up by the bouncer who assaulted the (aggressive) foreigner to try & justify his actions….. Malcom of course believed it because it was in print & it suits his bias rhetoric.

Agreed - the Swiss guy behaved atrociously…. But, fortunately‘ most Thais are smart enough not to judge us all (Foreigners) by the same negative generalisations… That’s said in areas of high tourist footfall an underbelly of contempt can grow when more idiots behave like this.

I’ll watch the full news later - I’m keeping an open mind to all possibility’s…. But just because ‘something’ is stated in a news report it doesn’t make it factual. My bet is the foreigner was told to accept a simple charge & any further issues would go away… That’s the way it’s works here. Also, it’s known that eye witnesses can and do lie, have lied etc- plenty of reports of that on here - so I wouldn’t naively accept that on blind faith either.

i think if it’s a civil matter a police report / complain needs to be filed, but not if it’s a criminal matter. Is assault not a criminal matter here ?

I agree - this is disgusting behavior and should not be tolerated - whatever the nationality, the same goes for any other such violent events... regardless of nationality. Strange though - you see such thuggery as disgusting when its a foreigner, when its a Thai you state that they didn't hit the foreigner hard enough.... Given such comments, I'd argue that your delusional bias is disgusting. Because of the actions of three people who've made the news over the last year you tarnish a whole nation with your generalisation - Again, you present a complete inability to show any intelligent balance whatsoever.

Are you sure ?.... but photo's of him at a police station are not proof that he caused a collision. This is just cleaning up after he got violent and is told to just to accept a small charge any everyone saves face...... Thats how Thailand works and it would have been the same if this were Thai on Thai and the issue became public as this did. That said: he 'could have' cause the accident - I'm not saying he didn't... I am saying, I'd like to hear both sides - the report is from 'one side'... as is commonly the case and we already know that we can't take what we read in these reports as fact. The Foreigner behaved like a thug and received some sort of penalty that serves as a 'sense of justice served'... But.. we still do not know the full story.... you have already made up your mind through... no surprise.

And you will be apologizing for them BECAUSE they are a foreigner. Members like you and Bob are entitled to your opinions on Thai people. That’s ok, not the way I would want to live here, but up to you. This is where you and I differ... You are incapable of seeing the balance. I've already highlighted that I do not condone the Foreigners actions to fight. In the other thread (where the bounces attacked a foreigner) your comment was that they didn't hit him hard enough. My opinions on 'Thai people' are very balanced and based on what I see... Mostly good, just like anyone else - but some are not, just like anyone else - This comment which have repeatedly made is something that you struggle greatly with. Regarding the way I 'live here'... I'm meeting one of my closest friends today, he's Thai - I have many close Thai friends - our opinions overlap to a remarkable degree - they also see that some foreigners and some Thai's behave very poorly - but stereotypes are flawed.

No disagreement from me there - it 'looks' that way to me too, though we have one side of the story, so I'd like to hear both sides, even see a full video that doesn't just show the conclusion... ... you know.. for completeness and so we dont 'jump to conclusions'... Of course... you wouldn't comment anyway - you never do on those threads because you are simply incapable of seeing balance and recognising that we are in fact all the same - just humans, some good, some trouble makers... some drunk drivers, some violent thugs...

He doesn't need to... It won't matter what the facts are.... not one bit.... He will only ever see the foreigner as being at fault, no matter what happens here, he never comments when its Thai thuggery because that would force him to accept that some Thai's can also behave poorly... ... But he will (nearly) always comment on an incident where a foreigner is involved and no matter the story, will be blaming them.... sometimes he's right, sometimes his delusional imbalance and strange anti-foreigner bias shines through.

We do tend to see that a lot on reports here. Maybe, maybe not - thats why 'both sides' of the story should be reported - plenty of possibilities.... Its possible (and after MalcomB's input) its looking like... a) There was an accident / minor collision b) Looks like the Thai guy had cut up the Foreigner (either following an initial collision or that was the collision). c) Foreigner reacted and got violent d) The foreigner fled - police later apprehended him

So they are not known for their violence ? Never gang up and attack Grab riders ??? Win riders are often the biggest gang thugs.... But in this case, as I highlighted the did an excellent job of deescalating the situation. This just highlights - there are no constants and each situation is individual... not the 'Thais always perfect' rubbish that you keep on spouting. Nearly there... 'Most' are good people, just like people from anywhere else - the vast majority are great... good people as you put it... and of course then there are the thugs and bad apples thrown in....

You've chosen scenarios in which you are correct.... But there are also plenty of scenarios where in the face of the glaryingly obvious you still side with Thai's... I've only ever seen you side with Thai's... highlighting an overwhelming myopic pro-Thai bias... rather than a balanced recognition that both Thai's and foreigner can also be in the wrong - because thats just 'humanity'....

I can see how it could also have occurred that way... Now that you've mentioned... that sounds more feasible given the reports... ... And thats the difference between you and I.... I'm not so delusionally blinded to see 'other possibilities'.... Now... given the position of the motorcycles as stopped... Who caused the accident in the first place ? looks to me that the Thai guy has cut across the foreigner.... ... Either parked across the front of him to block-him after an earlier 'incident'... .... Or, that was the manoeuvre that caused the accident and then the conflict.

In this case (as the video shows) - I think the Thai's in the area did a good job of deescalation... (though none were security).

Mixed.... Some do an excellent and professional job, maintain their cool and de-escalate situations caused by drunk idiots And then there are others who use their positions to act out their thuggery against drunk idiots... And... depending on location the drunk idiots can be either Thai or foreign - it just depends where the club is.

These incidents always bring out the farang apologists despite witnesses, a video and a victim interview. Its reported the foreigner caused and accident and fled - so how did they end up in the same spot ????.... You're so intent on being an apologist for every Thai that you are blind... And... before you keep bleeting on and making up your own nonsense... Here is it: I'm "Not condoning the foreigners actions at all"... Now... don't you want to hear both sides of the story to establish what really happened - of course you don't... you only want to hear the Thai side because you are so delusionally bias.

And he might not have.... some foreigners are absolute complete total cockroaches.... and some Thai men are the same... ... There's nearly always more to the story and we clearly only have one side here... but its possible the report is exactly as happened...

So you can make up the other side? Foreigners in the wrong, caused the accident and then got violent. But thanks for apologizing. You are consistent. Oh... you're back... I figured you'd been on another Ban for your inane incessant trolling... Anyway - I'm not interested in getting dragged down the level of a cockroach so you'll have to try and trigger argument with someone else.

....if they are pointless, then why the hell are you replying to them?? do you have some kind of mental affliction? @richard_smith237 help me out here lad. bob. I think you should sell one of your Rolex's and make him an offer he can't refuse...

Does a formal report need to be made for the police to take any action ? I doubt the police were completely oblivious to his actions and reputation if the local community were aware.... ... I suspect this is more a case of laziness... nothing in it for them (the Police) to deal with the issue, so they didn't bother...

You're right. But I can see the hotties looking at their tickets muttering to themselves "please don't let me be sat next to him". Haha... thats what I always figure they're thinking... ... That said, the last two flights I've sat next to Thai females... one just said hello and then slept the whole flight, another chatted with me the whole way !!... I fly so much now I don't really care, as long as the 'seat partner' is polite... & most people are...

C'mon.... No one believes you... .. You're not thinking that at all.... you're sat there watching the single hotties boarding thinking "Please be sat next to me" !!!!

You are not too large for an airline seat. I know... however, it seems bkknirvara is taking is 'netizen outrage' and doubling down...

Agreed... More to the story here... I hear the foreign man shouting "this is not ok what he do"... ... The Thai guy claimed the foreigner caused an accident then attempted to flee... So it appears the Thai chased down the foreigner and stopped him, then the foreigner fought back ? Not condoning the foreigners actions at all - but why is only one side of the story ever reported ?