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Just now, BritTim said:

Up to you. In any case, choose a safe entry point the next time.

TBH I didn't really think of a safe entry point at the time cuz i had already got the tourist visa. But thanks for the advise and info. much appreciated.

Just now, hydraides said:

To be honest its harsh because Penang should have refused the visa in the first place

 

No reason to refuse entry, Surely there has to be more to this story?

 

Have you got previous long overstays in your passport?

 

Have you lived in Thailand before these 5 months for a long extended period?

 

 

 

 

@hydraides   i only have one overstay of 3 days but I do stay in Thailand a hell of a lot.  It's not the denial of entry that I'm really enquiring about as i know at the end of the day Thai immigration pretty much are a law onto themselves but was just more wondering how long should i give it before i try getting in again?   would 1 month be enough? 2, 3?  or longer?

Just now, BritTim said:

He could. If so, avoid the road crossing at Pedang Besar. Expect an uncomfortable ride from the officials entering at Sadao, but likely to be ultimately successful. In his situation, I would be extremely risk averse at this stage. A second denied entry stamp looks really bad.

Yes, That's what I'm worried about.  Maybe it would be better to fly somewhere stay there for a bit and then try again?

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Have you considered offering to "pay a fine" and receive a "warning" 

If you mean a fine "under the table type"  I don't think that's possible at airports

Just now, darrendsd said:

OP depending on how desperate you are to enter you can appeal this decision

 

I don't know all the ins and outs of this process but worth a try

 

You obviously need to do this straight away, ask to see a immigration officer and tell them you want to appeal and see what happens from there

@darrendsd  Tried that and just got ignored basically. Also asked to see the boss but also got the same reaction. 

Just now, BritTim said:

You can return immediately, with the SETV you already hold, if entering through an entry point that follows the law. Airport immigration has absolutely no business overruling the decision of Penang consular officials to issue you a tourist visa.

 

By the way, your denial of entry stamp contains a "reason" under Section 12 of the Immigration Act for the denied entry. They use Thai numerals, but if you have a Thai who can tell you which reason they cited, that would be interesting. In most cases in the past, they claim that you have no visible means of support for your stay in Thailand (code for they believe, without evidence, that you are working here without a work permit). They tell you the real reason, but this is not a valid justification for the denied entry.

@BritTim  I think that's what they was applying, That i couldn't support myself.  But If i immediately try to get in at another entry point won't my passport flag up?

Just now, hydraides said:

Did they fly you back then to penang? what happened? did they pay for your flight back? Arrested?

 

I've never ever heard this happening before, especially if you can show 20,000 baht cash they should let you in...

 

You should have asked for the senior immigration officer, explained your situation....Wow I cannot believe they turned you down when you already were granted a TR visa from Penang..What the heck

 

Just now, Crossy said:

Where and what reason was given for denial?

 

Generally, if you fix the problem (e.g. get a visa) I'm not aware of any circumstances where a simple denial carries a time limit and you can re-try immediately (I'd recommend a different entry point).

 

Topic moved to the relevant forum.

@Crossy @likerdup Ok the details are....  I got a tourist visa in Penang but when i got to phuket airport i was still denied entry.  they claimed that because i had already had 5 months here. that i wasn't any tourist anymore.  so couldn't come in as a tourist.   And was living here according to them even though they had no evidence of that.    So, As it's a "minor offence"  (in other words the immigration gave me a trumped up charge.)   There was no overstay involved,  Would I be able to come back fairly quick?  maybe 3 months?

Just now, likerdup1 said:

why were you refused entry?

Just now, DrJack54 said:

Yes.

3 months out of Thailand would/should be fine.

 

So you were flown back to Penang? 

Entering Thailand via land border would be best option even with a SETV.

 

Surprised you were refused entry in possession of a SETV.

 

Could you outline what occured regarding return flight.

How long you had to wait at BKK etc

I am actually waiting now to be flown back to Penang

Just now, hydraides said:

Once you obtain a Tourist Visa sticker in your passport.....i thought Immigration had to let you in. I've never heard this happening before

 

I know Immigration can refuse entry for a visa exempt

 

This seems very harsh.....I'm very suprised ......maybe Phuket is being overrun currently by Chinese tourists and they are trying to discourage as many people visiting as possible

Probably unlucky and have met an immigration officer on a bad day.

Just now, DrJack54 said:

The OP is not asking about overstay.

He was inquiring about what happens if someone is refused ENTRY at airport.

 

One would assume that he did not have a visa and was entering visa exempt with long history in Thailand.

 

He could apply for a SETV at a consulate and if granted could enter Thailand with that.

A land border entry would be best option.

I had a  valid tourist visa 

Just now, herfiehandbag said:

Dorien Grey.

@herfiehandbag ???   

All this political turmoil, yet the baht remains strong.  But the currency is not manipulated in anyway????                  And before some "financial expert" comments and says that has nothing to do with the currency.  Please explain why then.. if it happened to most other countries their currency would plummet? because I'd love to know.  

Nuts!  The sun shines so much in Thailand yet they still don't get enough sun to actually be lacking in vitamin D.   it's not surprising though considering what they do to avoid the sun.   Such strange people.  I understand if you don't want to sit in the sun all day but even just going to the 7-11 they cover up like they will evaporate if their skin even catches a glimpse of the sun.  JESUS!  a couple of mins in the sun won't kill you and obviously is good for daily dose of vitamin D.     And they way they live as well its nuts. windows and curtains always shut.  God forbid the sun shines through.  the way they are in their rooms you'd think they was all on the run.  windows and curtains shut all the time and never go out.

3 hours ago, ChipButty said:

next time walk save yourself 56 baht, and save your life 

@ChipButty Just as dangerous walking around Thailand. Especially crossing roads.  

Just now, novacova said:

The flight crew may have noticed odd behavior, nervous agitated. She may have been sweating bullets when she disembarked the plane. In any case most likely she drew attention to herself, is what flight crews and airport security are trained to look for. She had the dope in five bags, certainly not all bags were carry-on, so her checkered luggage was probably sniffed out by a dope/money sniffing airport security dog back in the luggage room.

@novacova I doubt very much that is the job of the flight crew and that would prove nothing anyway. plenty of people nervous and agitated on flights cuz they don't like flying. 

4 hours ago, BritScot said:

 I find this statement very hard to believe! Cables everywhere... Just in Scotland there are dozens of streets and villages which are far nicer and that's without looking around England Wales or Northern Island. Holland and Europe have wonderful streets then America, Canada  so many stunning and beautiful but hay! no hanging wires....

@BritScot  Have you actually been there?  Doesn't sound like it!  

No need to apologize you're chinese you can do what you want.

6 hours ago, newnative said:

I would imagine some people living in a desert climate all their lives might since rain would be a novelty for them.

@newnative That would soon wear off

47 minutes ago, BritScot said:

Really? The uk has just had and is continuing to have beautiful weather.

@BritScot  Yep. We won't have rain for the rest of the year now, cuz we've had sun for a couple of weeks????

Funny how they make visas so hard to get and So, it feels like they want you out of their country and then are talking about tourism is low. You can't have your cake and eat it.