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1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:I'd recommend studying some human psychology. How the human mind works. It would explain a lot to you. Perception is reality. That's a clue.
As far as backing someone else. Who? Biden? What characteristics does he exhibit to you? I doubt if there's ever been an election cycle with as many loser candidates as the Dems put up this time around. 20 of them. Tell me, who?
What's that even supposed to mean? It's just more of the usual vague, Trump apologist nonsense that we have come to expect from your ilk. What is it then? He's such a genius that he appears to be an absolute baffoon just so everyone's guard will then be down and he can then pounce with his genius to grab the deal that no one was expecting? That the perception of being clueless is just a cunning ploy so he can hoodwink us all and suddenly dazzle us with his genius....again.
Well if that is the case then he needs to get a hurry up as he's running out of time with an approval level in it's early 30's, a legacy that shows nothing done in 3 1/2 years other than give himself and his rich buddies a huge tax cut (at the expense of $2 trillion on the national debt), a pandemic that's completely out of hand and an economy in free-fall.
And yes Biden. An honest, up-front, scandal free patriot who has served America faithfully for 50 years with hardly a blemish on his character and certainly nothing anywhere close to the scandal that follows Trump. I know you'll not be convinced, coming up with some predictable nonsense about his son or the 'sleepy Joe' moniker Trump has levelled at him, but if you cannot see the difference in moral character between the two men then may I suggest you turn that human psychology on yourself because that's where there is something wrong.
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12 minutes ago, Stadtler said:Are you an accountant? Can you account for this statement? 20,000 lies? Are you able to document 1000? How about 500? Perhaps 100?
Do prove your statement.
You're obviously new to this so we will be gently with you. The Washington Post has been keeping a score since he got into office.
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16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:Odd, isn't it? What I see in Trump and what you see in Trump are obviously decidedly different. That would explain it.
Mores - the fixed morally binding customs of a particular group. That's what I meant.
Apologies for the 'mores'.
I too find it 'odd' that you cannot see the moral depravity of a man who so far has been caught out in over 20,000 blatant lies; who tries to curry favour with despots; who ignores his own intelligence services when they say Russia has put bounties on American soldiers; who got caught with and paid off a porn star; who funnels state funds to his resorts and hotels and who still refuses to release his tax returns. The list goes on and on so if you are talking about morals, values, character, integrity and ideals, perhaps you should stop waxing lyrical about it and actually back someone who shows these characteristics rather than someone who is proven time and time again to not exhibit a single one of them.
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10 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:
We'll see how next to nothing it means that democrats stood by and let cities burn. Hey folks who had your livelihoods destroyed, it pretty means pretty close to nothing.
Ok lets just put an end to this. There has been trouble in Portland for 60 odd days now, please list ALL of the buildings that have burned in the city. By your designation of 'democrats stood by and let cities burn' there should be plenty so name me 5?
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1 hour ago, Tippaporn said:In my view it isn't an overhaul of any one or several political operational gears but an overhaul of values is required. Corruption, while always present to a degree since America's founding, has been on steroids for quite some time. One can blame the elites but the elites can't function without willing accomplices. It's a societal problem in my opinion. Character, integrity, ideals. mores, honour . . . these qualities have been replaced over many years by other impoverished ideas. The seeds are now bearing fruit. Sounds rather hopeless but I have a lot of faith that Americans will pull through. There's lots of Americans who still adhere to noble principles. I trust they will shine in the end.
Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. - Samuel Adams, 1749. I believe this quote aptly describes the overall theme of America's current drama.
I wonder how you can keep a straight face when talking about 'values, character, integrity, ideals. mores (I assume that was supposed to say morals), honour' whilst backing the most corrupt and amoral POTUS to ever lead the US of A.
I do however agree and think 'Americans will pull through' and will eventually see that this Emporor really has no cloithes and vote accordingly come November.
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5 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
LOL.
Judging from the posts on TVF, a lot of people "fear" Trump, and his re election.
Absolutely. It's VERY scary.
If he gets re-elected then I fear for equality, compassion, fairness, the environment, world peace, the rise of more despots, an increase in bogotry, racism and xenophobia.
This is what's riding on this election.
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7 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:Well, South Dakota has an ID law? Good on them. Doesn't go far enough, though. Should be a form of ID that identifies you as a citizen. I see "passport" as an acceptable form of ID but a drivers license will do, too. I was a green card holder and had a drivers license so I could have voted if I wanted to. I never did, though. Would have been illegal, but who's to know, right? My conscience knew.
The mass scale you're referring to (number of states) isn't the same as the mass scale I'm referring to. Not apples to apples. I'm talking about mass mail-in-ballots. Did you check out the CBS News link I posted a few hours ago? Argue with the results.
I have seen you post in previous posts Tippaporn and it always follows exactly the same formula so I think I'm spot on when I say I gaurantee you did not have an opinion of mail-in voting BEFORE Trump made it a thing. And once Trump makes it a thing, you fall obediantly in line like all Trump fans do and try your utmost to justify HIS stance. Facts don't matter to you because you can cherry pick your own facts with that one time you know, when it happened they way Trump says it could happen. Never mind the fact that there's been literally thousands of times when it didn't happen; that one time is good enough for your echo chamber.
There is no point debating you as there often is no point in debating most ardent Trump fans because the world is against you and your beloved leader and you'll be damned if they get the final word when you've still got breath in your lungs to argue black is white.
It's boring and predictable and I only hope come November we will hear the last of all Trump fans once and for all.
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2 hours ago, Thomas J said:
I think that Thailand has done significant harm to its economy. In terms of effectiveness, yes Thailand has few cases but is that because of its policies or because the virus just does not do well in Hot Humid environments. Almost all of the countries with very low Covid infections are very hot, humid countries. Some of the policies also just did not make sense. No longer true but you could go to the supermarket and buy groceries but not beer. Could go to Homepro but not to the beach. So far 12,304 people have died on Thailands roads and that is 58.5 people a day and that does not invoke a response but 58 people die over the same time frame from Covid and the country goes on lock down. The response seems over the top. Further, lets assume Thailand goes to Zero Deaths Zero Cases. Does it then wait until the remainder of the world is the same? If it does, the country will never reopen.
Is there any chance we can give the false equivalences a rest?
The subject isn't Thailand road deaths, it's how well it handled Covid and the answer is very well. And while we are on the subject, economic harm was always going to be the downside of a solid Covid response, especially where tourism is concerned. Even if Thailand had not closed it's borders, just who exactly is arriving for a two week beach holiday in the middle of a pandemic? Tourism makes up some 25% of Thailands GDP so of course it's significant but it will come back and I gaurantee that Thailands Triple A rating for it's Covid response will get it back there quicker than most.
In the meantime though, the Thai government is going to have to come up with a much better safety net for those out of work and unlikely to find work for the forseeable future. This will be the making of this government and show how much it really cares for it's citizens.
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2 hours ago, Krataiboy said:
But, but it was on tinternet!!!!
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6 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:Forgive me if I'm not shaking in my boots but what's playing out is only too obvious.
The simple truth is mail-in voting has been going on for decades with negligible cases of fraud. Trump himself has used it https://edition.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/07/31/trump-ballot-access-hollywood-2004-dons-take-ctn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/ so it is absolute hypocracy for him to say it's no good now.
What we also know is the GOP benefit massively from low voter turnout, and of course mail-in voting would ensure a much higher amount of voting.
Anyway, it's completely moot as mail-in voting is down to individual states and Trump has no say on whether they can or cannot initiate it.
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44 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:
Personally i think ALL countries have done a terrible job , destroying 20-30% of ALL the worlds economies for the 0.00008% of the world's population that have died, which included the old, cancer sufferers and those run over by buses but later tested positive. Basically 3000-4000 people have lost their jobs or income for every 1 death (death rate being 1 in 12,000 !). Personally I think that the numbers just don't add up any more. Open up, wear a mask, get on with it.
Another one who is willing to sacrifice lives for the sake of the economy. I take it neither yourself or anyone you know falls into the 'at risk' category as I'm sure you would have a different opinion if it was you, your wife, your mother, your father we were sacrificing for 'the worlds economies'.
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18 minutes ago, Sumarianson said:
One more who knows none of the facts, has read and watched only mainstream news and is happy to see the country in the toilet with more of his rights removed. Have you read anything about the virus or the so called vaccine? The virus is a Coronavirus of which there are many strains and it is continually changing. COVID 19 is just one strain. It has already mutated into many more. The so called vaccine is not a cure for all strains. The vaccine proposed is very different from previous vaccines (of which there is no conclusive evidence of their efficacy) the new vaccine will enter and change your DNA. I don't know about how much you trust lying Big Pharma and governments but I certainly do not trust them with my DNA. Look what happened to the Thalidomide children of the sixties? Mothers were promised a pain free birth and the result we know. You go and trust the vaccine if you want but do not inflict it mandatorily on everyone. Protect yourself if you think that is what you are doing. I have been diagnosed with Emphysema, Chronic Bronchitis, Asthma from which I would get repedative bouts of chest infections until the anti-biotics no longer worked. I would rather be in a room with 1000 COVID cases than take the vaccine. I have no symptoms of the above and have amazed Doctors here in Thailand who were in disbelief with my recovery. All due to my own research, diagnosis and treatment. If anyone suffering is interested in how I did it they can PM me. I am not a doctor and you must make your own assessment and take advice as you see fit.
You're not a doctor!
Never!
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1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:There is not valid reason why there needs to be vote-by-mail. One thing you can be certain about is that if the Dems are pushing it then they've already calculated the advantage for themselves. Some here think they're doing it for "the people." LOL How naive can one be? As evidenced here . . . plenty.
Check out the video of their test and come back here and tell us that there's no problem. LOL
I think Trump brought the question up because he knew that all h3ll would break loose and the libs would be screaming bloody murder, coming up with all the reasons why it can't be done. Come November he'll be using that when the Dems try to delay the vote count by weeks or months.
BTW, does anyone know what happens if there's a huge delay? Congress would choose an interim president. You don't think the Dems are aware of the rules? But don't you worry, the Dems are doing this for "the people." My a$$.
'There is not valid reason why there needs to be vote-by-mail' - you mean apart from the worldwide pandemic that has already cost the US 155,000 lives and is not even close to being brought under control because of an incompetant POTUS?
I would say that's a pretty good reason.
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1 hour ago, Kinnock said:
People die - especially old and sick ones - you are quoting numbers with no context or reference.
Of course I am. These are hypothetical numbers used as an example when someone questioned the 46,000 already confirmed C19 deaths. The numbers have to be hypothetical as they are not happening thanks to lockdown.
What part of this don't you understand?
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3 hours ago, englishoak said:
And there we are, flip flop once again. Nothing but the official narrative will be tolerated... no matter they keep changing what that is. What are they scared of ? oh yea people making their own minds up, being an individual and getting on with life despite the hurdles, now we are supposed to run away and hide on command.. Sad but true.
Just to keep things in perspective, about 100 million net are added to human population annually 60m so far this year, despite the virus ... its NOT a big deal .. even if 1 million die its STILL not as much as kill TB, Malaria or Dengue annually or a bad flu season.. get a grip the world is sliding into hysterical chaos all around the globe and most have bought into the fear porn. it would be laughable a few years ago this would be tolerated by people but now it seems people are begging for totalitarianism, please destroy peoples livlihoods just shut it all down.. RUN and HIDE, lose everything and do as your told like a good little drone like the gov says, for nothing but a virus with a kill rate of less than 0.5%... talk about being weak minded and easily lead. Pathetic.
When it all goes into a tailspin and continues to get more crazy and worsen remember who put up with and helped it happen. Because for some reason people are like scared rabbits these days...
Oh boy, where to start.
Firstly I'll tell you what they are scared of; instead of 46,000 dead, it's 146,000 dead or 246,000 dead or even 346,000 dead. And please stop with the false equivalences. The VERY worst flu season EVER was 2017-2018 where up to 650,000 people died, however this is not a normal season where much lower numbers of 250k to 400k are usually reported. https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/14-12-2017-up-to-650-000-people-die-of-respiratory-diseases-linked-to-seasonal-flu-each-year.
C19 has only been running worldwide since March (6 months) and so far has been responsible for over 600k deaths. Extrapolate that numer out to the year and you get 1.2 M, take away lockdown and you could be talking millions upon millions. Also:-
Malaria - 450 k deaths in 2018 https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/malaria_worldwide/impact.html
TB - 1.5 million deaths in 2018 https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/tuberculosis
Dengue - 22,000 deaths per year https://www.cdc.gov/dengue/about/index.html
All of these are big numbers but again if you extrapolate C19 out over a year and remove lockdown, you can see it could easily cause more deaths than all the others you have mentioned added together.
And lastly, I just love how so many people like yoursel are quite so happy to sacrifice so many people just to 'stick it to the man'. I assume you yourself or friends or family don't fall into the high risk category because it's a lot harder to constitute your stance when it's your own mother/ grandfather, next door neighbour facing the consequences.
There are ways to mitigate all of this which i have explained in previous posts i.e. to isolate the most vulnerable, test, identify, trace and quarantine the infected but for some reason politics and incompetance seems to be getting in the way of this so lockdown seems currently the only solution for many. It's a neccessary evil until common sense takes control and sane minds start dictating policy.
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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:Just face the facts. Both parties are corrupt, beyond redemption. Both are bought and paid for. Both are owned by corporations and special interests. Both have a hard time saying no to lobbyists. Thinking otherwise is naive. Blame all you want. It does not change the truth.
I'm sorry but I don't agree with this at all.
Unlimited donations from self-interest groups have always plaugued American politics but never has political 'corruption' been so evident and blatantly abused than with Trump and the current GOP. From massive tax breaks to the winding back of envornmental limitations to climate denial, Trump and the GOP are not even hiding their corruption any more and is why you see such a massive push to get America back working despite the human consequences.
I didn't see this in the Obama administration nor the Clinton administration so I would suggest that although there may be some corruption with the Dems, they are rank amatuers compared to the GOP.-
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5 hours ago, simple1 said:You've gone from 'cities are burning' to "Two city blocks burning ins't "under control" - Portland, which is still incorrect. Comes across you are just making stuff up which begs the question, why do you indulge in this behaviour as it is not contributing to understanding of events.
I'll tell you why. The whole Trump movement relies on fear. Fear of Mexicans. Fear of Muslims. Fear of blacks. Fear of cities burning. Fear of goddam liberals. Fear of their own shadow.
It's negative politics at it's finest and the oldest trick in the political book; get the working man to blame the immigrants/blacks/muslims for all the problems in their life even though the country is run by billionaires and corporations. Yet people can't see it or are simply too blind to want to see it. They just continue to fight among themselves for the scraps, blaming other people who in turn are fighting for even fewer scraps, meanwhile the billionaires and corporations sit back and laugh about how much they are still getting away with it and how no one is blaming them.
It's a helluva con that Trump supporters keep falling for time and time again.
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4 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:When I look at how the rest of the world is doing, yes, would do it again all over if I had too. Well done Thailand. Just hope the stats are true, as I just don't trust government ????
I'm not sure why people keep saying things like 'Just hope the stats are true'. The stats are compiled by the Ministry of Public Health (MoPH) and verified by the WHO, and it serves no purpose to 'massage' any figures as the MoPH lives by it's reputation. The only anomoly in figures I would suggest is total amount of infected/asymptomatic individuals as total testing has fallen short of more advanced economies but I am happy that total infected and total deaths are very accurate.
So a big well done to Thailand!!
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So she is promoting a debunked 'cure', comparing C19 to flu and minimising the risks for people regarding the pandemic....... I couldn't sack her fast enough if she worked for me.
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4 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:Two city blocks burning ins't "under control"
Nothing to see here folks, only 2 blocks burning.....we've got it under control. Hilarious......
And two city blocks are not burning either. So far all thats burned is a police union building and the inner fence of the courthouse - not the actual courthouse itself. The majority of fires have been set in dumpsters.
These are not difficult facts to find out. Google is your friend.
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7 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:46,000 is a vast over-statement. At least half of that number is made up of those people who had been infected with covid-19 but actually died from other causes.
Stop with this massively debunked theory or produce some evidence to back it up.
Why on earth would anyone want to exagerate the number of deaths? If anything they would want them lower. Here are the facts:-
From Tuesday 28 April, NHS England and NHS Improvement started to report the number of patient deaths where there has been no COVID-19 positive test result, but where COVID-19 is documented as a direct or underlying cause of death on part 1 or part 2 of the death certification process. This change has been introduced for deaths that occurred on 24th April and subsequently and is shown separately in the region data table only. https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/
Plus we all know people are dying of other causes; that's what C19 does, it affects the vulnerable who in turn die of pneumonia or other lung diseases. However, the point is without C19 they would still be alive. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/14/805289669/how-covid-19-kills-the-new-coronavirus-disease-can-take-a-deadly-turn
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Wow, the Trump supporters are out in force on this one today.
So correct me if I'm wrong but most of the Trump loyalists argument when asked why Trump is suggesting delaying the election is he's some master, media manipulator who doesn't really mean what he says but is just doing it to rile up those pesky liberals and get under the skin of Dem party? Correct?
Now where have I heard that before?
Oh yes, I remember now; it's every time Trump has spouted some nonsense, idiocy and hateful utterance that a sane person would regard as crazy coming from anybody but what is absolutely terrifying when coming from the leader of the free world.
The mental agilty required to keep defending Trump is truly something to behold and I applaud you all for your ability to bury your head so far into the sand you must be seeing Australia by now.
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33 minutes ago, Mama Noodle said:The left: SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN
The Right: What about rights, employment, childcare etc
The Left: YOU'RE KILLING PEOPLE SCIENCE DENIER
The Left again: *Massive hordes of people, riots and mass gatherings*
The Left one more time: See? Republicans opened too early now they’re killing people!
Please stop with the projecting. It's basic and not particularly convincing.
Just who exactly 'on the left' are saying 'Republicans opened too early now they’re killing people'? It certainly isn't anyone from the Democratic party so who exactly is it?
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3 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:
You say that with zero evidence.
What insurance company pays 100%?
I think we need to verify that for you.
Post the company so we can research the facts.
Not sure why you would think I was lying about this and I certainly don't appreciate your tone but for the benefit of other, less rude posters; I work through RBi (broker) https://www.rbimembership.com/ who in turn work through several insurance companies. My most recent insurer has been https://www.imglobal.com who out of a total bill for 700k charged me an excess of 25k which in turn RBi refunded back to me thus meaning I didn't pay a penny.
Happy?
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You asserted that “cities are burning” so we asked you to name 5 buildings in Portland that have burned. Instead of answering that question, you have pivoted to a completely different subject (see above). Can you please answer the original question so we can decide once and for all exactly what “cities are burning”.