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The naturopath actually told me to enjoy black coffee & water whilst on the fast . He surprisingly said and obviously believe black coffee is good for fasting . I couldn't imagine going without water ,but I'm thinking lemon juice too

Because I was over eating on protein food and drinking a lot of milk protein drinks and energy drinks as for the gym I'm not doing cardio just weight lifting

You don't lose energy during the day ?

Yes , although I think there is sugar free gum Good point about the electrolyte, does anyone know if Gatorade is ok ?

What are you saying ? You think my liver pain could be something else ? The woman GP is probably as old as me said the pain was probably a inflammation of the liver ! I will try another doctor and maybe get another ultrasound from another clinic , I don't even drink alcohol,

Lately I have had liver pain ,62yo male 115kg go to gym everyday and lift weights So went to GP ,they done a ultrasound said fatty liver ,nothing we can do ,you need to lose weight . So anyway I used to drink a ton of protein drinks everyday and stopped . My liver still has a dull pain ,the GP wants to wait a month to see if there is any improvement if I get down to 100kg so basically she's useless although she says a Fibro scan of the liver will be next if no improvement Ok let me get to the point , today I went to a indian naturopath basically he told me I must starve the liver of glucose and insulin,I must do this a few times a week for 72 hours ...fasting !!! After 14 hours no eating I will lose the glycogen out of my liver To cut a long story short who benefits here by fasting ? How long have you done it ,72 hours seems a long time I forgot to ask if I can chew gum ?

So your now 86?????????

Recently in my work I was called up to the HR Department and given a written warning on my behaviour to a Supervisor. He is a 80yo man who still works ,he walks slow hands behind his back maybe for balance reasons I don't know etc and I don't like him. He commented in front of me to another employee that he was saving his 2023 annual leave for 2024 as him and his wife (Filipino) wanted to go back to Phillipines in 2024 for 3 months So ....I told him...."mate your nearly 81 everyday is a blessing you wake up ...how do you know your going to be here in 2024 ,F F sake take your annual leave this year !!!! The point I'm trying to make is we need to be realists when it comes to life Are you a realist ? How do you define a realist? What's the opposite a realist ? Have you had any realist examples?

She the doctor said to me today it was abdominal ultrasound and everything is ok except the fatty liver . I told her about the dull pain she said this is normal as my liver would be inflamed ? She then fine a touching exam and said felt nothing She said she wants to wait 6 weeks to see the blood results then ? Do U think I should get referred to a liver specialist? Do you tjink I should wait a few weeks to see if the pain is still there ? I have lost 3kg in 2 weeks from staying off protein powder drinks and cutting out chocolates and Ice cream

I had a ultrasound done in my liver , nothing has come up said the doctor on looking at it ,however said ok there is fat so lose weight! But the question remains ,I'm getting pain .not throbbing pain just dull pain which I can live with almost like a brusing pain from the liver nothing sharp just dull sort of pain There is no medication apparently and no cure according to the doctor ,so I just live with the dull pain ? Has anyone here got a fatty liver and gets pain ? Also the doctor told me there is another liver test ,she said fibro something,I forget now but she wants to wait 3 months to see how my liver goes on this diet . Has anyone had other liver tests other than the blood ones ?this fibro test she was saying today or even a liver biopsy? She said oh we don't need to go that far at this stage and here I am dying of fatty liver , these doctors have no idea

Can you inject into the glute ( bum cheek?

Luckily I have been given the all clear in regards to my liver pain,but I wonder about guys that didn't How many of you have lived through a terminal illness ,such as Cancer ? How did you cope with this diagnosis and treatment ,and I mean that mentally Has your attitude on life changed What about you guys with stage 4 of something eg prostate has your attitude to health changed ? Eg Chissoris of the liver ? Do you still continue to drink alcohol? And even if you have been diagnosed with a "fatty liver" that is not something to not be concerned about ,you can still be terminal later in life Do you take care now much better than before in regards to nutrition and exercise Ironically when I was working as a wardsman/bed pusher in the hospital there used to be a few bodybuilder types come through with prostate cancer as they used a lot of testereone which apparently made them higher cancer risk so I remember the doctor putting them on estrogens and some refused If you were going through the cancer treatment did you become more spiritual? Do you now cope with dying much better ? Luckily in Australia we now have the legal ability to go with euthanasia I hope there is no one going through stage 4 cancer here but if you are please share your experiences

One thing I love about Asia is the cheap massage. I go twice a day when I'm in the Philippines or Thailand. Compared to Sydney at $80 per hour /2000 baht I can get one in Asia for around 300 baht $15 Australian per hour So anyway let's move on with what I'm saying rather than beat around the bush. What don't you like in a massage and I don't want any thing about happy endings ,I'm talking real massage . First of all I don't care about attractive of masseurs , I just want a decent massage.and some of my best were old Asian guys Now last week I went to a North"Chinese " massage here in Sydney far far different from any before ,elbow pointy end to liver kidneys etc ,bloody hurt actually. End of elbow to the kidneys Another one a few weeks Thai massage walked on my back , crack crack my back I also HATE it when too much talking ,where you from etc Too much noise outside ,I'm out ! Too much talking ...I'm out ! I strip down to my underwear ,sometimes they pull my undies down to massage the glutes Do you take it all off ?

I have a feeling going over your posts the last 10 years you studied psychology or worked in that area ?

It's hard to avoid people in the workplace , I had a nursing unit manager in the hospital I work in come to me yesterday at 130pm in the locker room..."can you go urgently go to ward 12 and wheel miss Smith to Radiooncology " ,( I don't start work until 2pm ) So I told the feminine Nursing manager , " mate I don't start until 2pm ..it's now 135pm....your problems are not mine !!! These people cannot take the hint of being avoided

Yes I did ! I eat a lot of salted peanuts Is the cause ?

I just remembered in the last few months I took a lot of paracetamol, or cideine , Tylenol pain killers as I had cramps in the legs So maybe this caused it

Very good points ,if they start gossip about others to you ,then what are they saying about you ?

Between December & this test I was taking only Cialis 5 mg a day Horny goat weed & Tribulas But I just noticed I had a low testosterone score as well !?!! Could the low test be contributing to the liver ??? I'm 63yo this year Now the strange thing is I have no liver pain .. Today I feel so energetic,o will go to the gym and lift weights,I luv doing powerlifting at the gym every week but I'm muscle fat , so this blood tests are not consistent,unless it all hits me suddenly.

Between December & this test I was taking only Cialis 5 mg a day Horny goat weed & Tribulas Will the scores go down if I lose the 20kg ?

I just googled there seems to be no medication for fatty liver . What's the treatment plan if I go back to see the doctor ,she seems more concerned about sending me to a dietitian rather than a liver specialist. I need to see a liver specialist immediately she doesnt obviously know about stuff like this

Well I would never had known if I didn't get a blood test every 3 months , I mean there's no pain . I will pay to get a ultrasound but she said lose weight asap. I look on Google it says we both have a 7 year survival rate I don't drink so no idea why . I will have to go back see her next week,is there any medication? You better lose weight asap too

Recently had a full blood test like I do every 3 months ,the doctor called me in this time though . She pointed to the AST 57 ALT. 68 Previous month's they were 17 & 29 She asked me have you been drinking a lot ? No ,I don't drink I have no liver pain .but she has sent me for a liver ultrasound? I said it could be cancer ? She said no more like fatty liver ,she sent me to a dietitian..I'm only about 20kg overweight What has caused this? How did the scores of the AST & ALT go up so quick ? I feel fine though Should I bother with the liver ultrasound? Will the scores of the AST & Alt go down if I lose weight ?