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This is to those guys who split up ,divorced etc in life. Just asking when did you know when to split with your partner? Did you suddenly fall out of love ? Was you never really in love ? Many guys blame their ex partner and are bitter angry but . Was it really yourself that caused the split up ? How did u know when to go separate ways ? For those who have split up,divorced parted ways etc in life my question are ... How long were you together? How did you know it was coming to a end? Do you still have any contact with your ex partner? Did it break your heart to split up ? Did it hurt you emotional or did you just carry on? Was that person your soulmate ? Did you find love again ?

im like this too...but meeting my filipino GF she is opposite and likes to go out

I would be interested to hear from any opposite here who are extroverts ? who feels ok to walk from one end of Walking Street Pattaya at 2am on a weekend night and feels not hyper vigilant ? who can walk into a bar full of strangers and come out with friends ? who can walk into a crowded pub? I was once talking a Scotch guy in payttaya a few years ago about this and he said if he can walk thru Glasgow at 3am on a weekend morning he can walk anywhere

its hard for me ,because when i retire i could live in the boonies in phillipines or thailand or whatever for awhile but still need that city feel to belong, im a homebody and always have been single,go to work,come home,go to gym,watch tv,bed etc but when i met my filipino GF here in Australia she likes to go to cafes etc and im not used to this,im throwing myself forward to overcome this"anxiety"

your a man not to be messed with lol

The thing is how do you know when its a problem? my current girlfriend 34yo filipino here in australia purposely took me out last night around 11pm here in sydney to get me used to it,because she says when i retire to Asia wherever that may be then we will encounter large crowds. The people i saw though were mostly teenagers shouting out,being loud etc,there was no threats etc just loud screaming girls etc walking between nightcllubs But i had to keep moving her out of the way,Chinatown in Sydney was very busy last night,people walking towards you with phones stuck to their ears not moving etc ,I know i have to get used to people because we are travelling this year but i may have to see a psychologist

I guess you can describe me as a introvert, i dont like to be around people much,even in my work i choose to sit in the park and eat my dinner instead of the work mealroom. i hate crowds and crowded places,i think its anxiety ,i avoid the walking street in pattaya at nights when i was there . Last night i walked with a friend in Sydney thru the city,there was no threat but i just felt uneasy with crowds walking past me. My late dad was opposite,he was so popular at work he was the union rep and safety rep etc,he could walk into any room full of strangers and 10 minutes later have friends. I wish i could be like him. I dont like getting into crowded buses etc or crowdded bars ,i think im what you call hypervigilant ,im aware of mysurroundings at all times,whose up ahead ,etc i walk facing the oncoming traffic in places like pattaya I feel threatened by drunken louts once on walking street i never went there after 6pm again i think there is more people like me however in the younger generation after this covid where i get the feeling people are uneasy in lifts etc. My friend shes a filipino luvs talking to people even strangers and makes small talk,i cant do that

For those of you have perm retired to Asia, What about your home in farangland , did you keep it, did you decide to sell up and keep no assets where you came from,or do you perhaps rent it out ? I am making decisions that when I retire I may keep my house in Australia until about 70 then if I decide to permanently live in Asia whether that be Thailand or Phillipines then I will sell it. It's no use keeping it back in Australia unless I rent it out which will be another hassle with tax , maintenance etc etc. But...on the other hand it may be useful to have for emergency. So how many of you have no house back where U came from..when did U decide to sell ? I guess if your married to a Asian lady living in Asia then you don't need any assets back in the west .

Thats a Aussie slang word..not sure what the other countries description is ..is it Chavs in the UK?

The other topic on wisdom was quite interesting but I tend to think sometimes younger people are more wiser and accepting today of race , sexuality and interracial couples. I was working my hospital job ..I usually out & about in the large hospital I work in and come across workman who are fixing the outside pavement areas.outside the hospital. There were about 10 of them, and I got talking to a few the past few weeks,they were over the age of 55 and were apparently forced to take on the job by the Job Dept/Centrelink otherwise they would lose their unemployment benefits .( Apparently the federal govt pay their wages for 12 months as long term mature unemployed. Anyway got talking to a few of them many who had been unemplyed for many years one in particular 18 years, 15 years etc he just didn't want to work he said He was 55 fat baldy guy who lived in a Dept of Housing house by himself paying cheap rent , I must say all the others basically looked the same . Any way they all had things in common, they were all unfit looking, unkempt appearance, all between 55 & 65..and every second word was a swear word. Anyway after talking to them over the past few weeks another thing stood out...they never traveled overseas particularly to Asia . Now when I brought this up to one guy he was 61 , he started making jokes etc .." I love you long time " etc The other guy 57yo would on seeing Asian nurses walk past comment to me look at all the "fish faces" etc Ching a lings etc On seeing male nurses .." poofters" and other derogatory terms ..these comments were all directed by old guys to people who were a quarter of their age Now I didn't get angry because I was intrigued on their past lives , they seemed to be very immature, none of them had saved money it appears , it just like they had floated thru life relying on Govt housing & social security benefits ..maybe even past jail etc They were all of caucasian Australian appearance But the embarrassing thing was in seeing young people walk past them such as trainees young doctors or nurses ( usually of Asian) indian background) and these old guys would make jokes about them ..eg I love you long time" ...I wonder if she gives happy ending " etc these younger people would ignore them look at them for a minute and continue walking etc to the lunch cafes I even told them I had a Filipino GF which wasn't a great idea with some making comments I must be desperate etc .. The thing is I believe it's because they never traveled particularly to Asia where they have to be non judgmental. I never forget back in 2011 having a very homophobic workmate (Ron) old Aussie bloke rough as guts, travel first time to Thailand, he ended up going about 3 times before I caught up with him again, he had completely changed , he even defended ladyboys in one conversation. He nature in the years before he retired was completely different after he traveled Asia. Ultimately he ended up retired to Udon Thani haven't seen him for years since I find younger people travel more than our generation , I find that's why they are more wiser & accepting of interfacial couples etc and non judgmental. I don't hate those older guys but it seems to me travel is the key to becoming more confident..more mature and accepting of life , I find it interesting guys who are over say 55 and still act very immature in the sense they need to make racial comments to guys who have Asian partners , it's not I believe racism as such directed personal I believe it's because they never " experienced" travel overseas ...they never matured in that sense .

And if it doesn't work out you lost half of your assets

According to the financial planner I went to at a Bank recently most will die between 78yo & 83yo although the young guy told me gleefully they are increasing that age to 84 soon. I guess if your over 80 and I don't wish to sound rude but everyday waking up is a great day and a blessing The strange thing I come across especially in my job as a hospital wardsman is meeting old guys over 75 whether they be a patient or colleague who never think they are going to die . I have a work colleague at 76yo has a Filipino wife at home, he boasted to me how they own a island in the Philippines and how they will retire there in a few years , now this man does all the overtime he can do E C so certainly not poor ,so I had to tell him to his face , I told him Heinz mate you will be too f.....ng old to enjoy your retirement your nearly 80 now so the only one enjoying it will be your Filipino wife when she heads back to the Philippines when your dead, with that he stormed out of the mealroom , sorry but they have to be told .

I just read in the Australian forum section of how some farangs are been lied to and lost everything after buying a house for their Thai wife in the isaan area etc ... Now the question is ,do you intend to get a pre nuptial agreement or did get one before you partnered with a partner in Asia whether that be Phillipines .. Thailand etc Now my case is I have met a Filipino lady in Australia..30 years my junior ..if I was going to make her my partner I would consider a pre nuptial agreement, reading that part of the forum tonight ( Australia forum) got me nervous that someone got kicked out of the home they bought in Thailand simply because they don't own it ... What's to say they then start making claim on your house in the UK or Australia..or wherever you come from...what's to say they take half of your retirement/superannuation... Now getting kicked out of your house U paid for ..no access to your bank account ..homeless in Asia ...not for me ...then what about you guys who have kids back in farangland...how do U make sure they receive something when you go ...then I think of posters like Simon & thaibeachlovers who lost everything....how & what mistakes they made I'm not sure but I'm scared to lose everything I worked hard for. Also call me paranoid ...but ..I'm scared to say I would never tell partner how much I would leave them in a Will...there is cases of them getting rid of farang whether that be in Thailand Indonesia or Philippines... Really I'm not suited to this partner type arrangement... You see as some of these guys are maybe not the best looking old guys & lonely etc and as that topic was saying they fall for a isaan girl then retire with they thinking the love of their life buy houses etc for her and in some cases the leeches in her family then they hate living in isaan and get kicked out homeless

Who is this Cleo lady you all keep mentioning

Another part of Asia is GOA in India . Now today I'm at work discussing my dreams of retirement to a colleague who is of India born. After I tell him about Pattaya etc he tells me there is a similar place only much cheaper and it's called GOA ...it's a great place for retirement he says . Now has anyone had any experience in GOA and would you say it's similar to Pattaya ?

maybe you need to have a flatmate or find a new companion ,find friends etc instead of being alone , just someone there to talk to occasionaly etc. thats why i started this topic because many farang retire to places like pattaya etc living in a studio room and eventually after the party has wore off they get "lonely" by themselves ,hiring working girls is not the same

Who is there for you though to really care if you get sick or need hugs?

Not sure if the word amenties is the word im looking for ,but im only a hospital wardsman so what do i know. But looking to retire soon whether that be Thailand,Cambodia or Phillipines,LAOS,TURKEY,, VIETNAM,MYANMUR ,SINGAPORE ,malaysia im studying what i need around me,what "amenties " i need. So i make this list to move somewhere where they have most of these to look for a city or town 1. must have good gym,i like going to the gym everyday,it has to be walking distance 2. pay4play whether that be bars or streetwalkers or meeting apps ,but should be available whether that be a bar or university town 3. Condos I prefer a condo or apartment 4.medical centres.. doesnt have to be close to hospital but its a preference 5.financial ....cheap place with good life ,prefer under 15,000 baht rent per month for say a 1 bedroom condo ,would be good to say able to live on less than 35,000 baht a month ,maybe phillipines or cambodia we could do this ? 6.easy retirement visa,less hassle 7,medical insurance ,a place which is cheap 8,low crime areas 9.healthy area , clean air ,chiang mai doesnt cut it now i know many of you are thinking of pattaya but too expensive for me ,what about farang expat cities/towns in places like phillipines etc. The question im asking is what amenties are important to you and what countries/towns do you reccomend that has everything your looking for ? To me western food is not important,i can live without, another is high crime areas eg i probaly wouldnt want to retire to Tondo in the phillipines BUT im sure there is western expats living there somewhere. Im ruling out places like pattaya ,too expensive, phuket the same, UDON THANI could be a option,university town plenty of pay4play i guess , Vietnam Hanoi could be option, as for CAMBODIA ,i didnt enjoy phomn penh BUT other area siem reap might be ok I plan on staying only 6 months in each city/town etc when i retire , i will explore Makati in the phillipines which is in manila,i may stay there a few months, then a place called PALAWAN, apparently many expats ,but these places may exceed my budget ,

just wondering who lives alone here in Asia wherever you are. I was looking at my retirement thinking to buy a 1 bedroom rather than a studio if i decide to retire to pattaya or the phillipines just in case I want someone to live with me . So my questions to expats especially in places like Pattaya ,phuket ,cambodia ,phillipines who live in studios by themselves are you comfortable being alone. I never forget meeting a guy many years ago at the canterbury tales cafe in pattaya who told me he lived in serviced apartments just in case he died so they could find him and he had company everyday talking to the housemaids and reception staff so my question is , to mainly retired expats who live alone is ,are you never lonely that you need someone to live in with you ?

at my age ready to retire soon from my job in Australia im glad i didnt take that "plunge" back in 2004 like most first timers to thailand/Asia and leave my job with excited hope to live there . These are the results of some that did,effectively ruining their later life . Its the dream guys to go to Asia particularly thailand to live but if you are leaving a secure job, and you are say under 50 with not much money ....dont do it Fast forward nearly 20 years and i get a whatsapp message from one of my friends here in Sydney that a former friend we had travelled with is trying to contact us. About 5 of us travelled to pattaya and one in particular his name was Russell was 34yo and had left his secure government job to live back then in pattaya with a girl he met on his first trip. Silly me at that time was also looking to live there although i was older than Russell,must be over 10 years since i spoke to him,he had moved to thailand leaving his job etc and bought a bar but now a teacher Russell is now in Cambodia ,i think around the 52 mark and has apparently been a teacher in Cambodia Burma etc ,,Russell is contacting us to ask for money . I havent been contacted by him yet but apparently financially he is not going too good and told my friend he hadnt saved any money and was considering coming back to Australia to find work. he has no skills ,no money,no job,no housing ,and get this,cant afford his airfare back to sydney His teacher salary was something like 30,000 baht a month ,so in other words he wasted his last 20 years when he could of been saving here in australia and possibly retired by now The second case is another farang friend ,who has lived in thailand around 15 years ,he is now 65yo ,married in thailand,2 young kids ,he talks to me on skype ,he says he is coming back without missus and kids to claim his Aussie pension, apparently has to live here 2 years to claim it at 67yo ,but he has no where to stay ,can he stay at my apartment with me ?..can i get free board until my wife gets a loan from her father? ....ummmmm no i said He has no money either despite his thai wife working in thailand and apparent rich father in law.

just wondering how many of you can fight or still train in fighting skills wherever that be muay thai ,boxing or jujitsu ? Are there training schools/camps willing to take us on at our age? Im particular interested in older guys say 50 plus The reason i ask this is because im in my early 60's not far to go to retirement and thinking of learning to defend myself for later years. Im a hospital wardsman currently in Australia so am quite fit plus i go to the gym nearly everyday and lift heavy weights ,im 110kg ,i dont drink or smoke,im muscular to a degree a Recently there has been a spate of incidents that has made me more motivated to learn to fight . The other time when there was a spate of incidents was in April 2018 during Songkran in pattaya where i was on a baht bus and a farang squirted me in the left eye with a high powered water gun,he was probaly in his 40's but he kept doing it even when my eye started to close up and i had to get off the bus,i walked away like a coward The second one was in walking street around 2pm in the afternoon where i witnessed a drunk farang grab another farang walking past by his swimming costume ,he then elbowed me in the face not hard but as he walked past laughing,i did nothing but keep walking ,i wanted to hit him back or do a choke hold but i dont know how So i rang around here in Australia ,i rang a close full time boxing gym who seemed they didnt care my age ,then i rang a jujitsu gym who seemed a bit hesitant when i mentioned my age but said it may be harder for me to fight on a mat but yes come in and see how u go the thing is i would like to try muay thai as well in thailand .when i go there .,do you think we can do that in our 60's? i think jujitsu would be better for my age rather than kicking and punching but i would like to try muay thai i think there is a few old farang still keeping up fighting skills ,one i met in pattaya a few years ago was a judo expert or similar tell me if you can fight at your older age ? do you still train ? i need to be ready for when i retire ,ready to defend myself from louts and hooligans around ,thailand or even phillipines where i may retire is not safe.

I always wonder what this fearful myth is of " be careful" acknowledging other farang ...they want something whether to borrow money from you or tell you a sorry story or whatever ...be careful saying don't hello back...they will bite you etc etc ..they re obviously after something I recall once walking with a newly arrived friend in Pattaya and we are walking in East Pattaya and I'm buying a coconut he is standing on the street a taxi pulls up and the farang passenger is seen talking to him my stupid friend is ignoring him before it drives off...I asked him what was going on..."oh he was pretending to ask for directions to a hotel...but probably wanted money ...I read it on the internet .. don't talk to stranger farangs !! Just bloody bizarre some of you lot ...fearful and anxious over oh they could ask to borrow money ...oh they could tell me a sorrowful story ...in reality they probably won't ...you know why . Because it's a urban fear myth Now as I'm getting older and some farang talks to me or acknowledge me passing by or whatever I will talk or acknowledge back ...so what if they ask to loan money I will say no...there's no need to ignore someone ...just because they could ..they might...possibly ask for a loan ....just ridiculous.. some of you must walk around Thailand with your head down making no eye contact hyper vigilant to other farang ! I remember being in a small beer bar in about 2010,in jomtien and saw a wallet in the toilet ..I knew it was the guy that was sitting with his mates nearby so I walked up politely ..hi ...I said .. I was just about to tell him before he looked at me with a sour arrogant look.. and said " do I know you !!! I recognised his accent as my own Australian and I stopped for a minute before his friend sitting next to him said something like I was trying to sell real estate... before this old C used his hand to shoo me off . So I walked back in the toilet and took the wallet Moral of the story don't be arrogant

This topic may have been covered in some ways but now im getting over 60 plus had 2 work colleagues die in the last 3 months im thinking how valuable life is. One colleague Bob was 68yo and kept talking about retirement,he died at work on the nightshift,(hospital wardsmen)just went to have a nap on his break and never woke up,that was in August,he kept saying how he would be travelling Europe when he retires blah blah blah,supossed to have retired last December then it was July then it was this December,well now he is gone ,left probaly a million in retirement funds ,his kids will get it. Now my question is mostly related to those over 60 ,those old farts like me,or should i be politically correct ,and say mature aged guys ,the thing is,are you aware you will probaly die between 78 & 83yo? Are you doing everything to enjoy this time you have left ? are you going to get your goals completed ,enjoy that time you have left ? I said this to a work colleague last night whilst working, he is another oldie who wont retire at 77yo,still fit is a hospital cleaner ,hasnt taken a sick day since 1992 and proudly boasts about his 2 million in retirement funds that he pays into and how he is going to travel the world when he retires..... ....yeah right he was extremely offended last night when we spoke of Bobs death ,i said to him your 77 what are u planning o do in the next 6 years you have left ? He was shocked ,what do you mean he says puzzled ? I said mate you are 77 you dont have much time ....to a puzzled look by him before he stormed off . and thats where this past few months have made me aware,i have about 20 to 25 years left,if that,if im lucky ,that means not wasting it The point im trying to make is some of you either forget or just think your going to live forever ,im sorry to be blunt ,but as the financial planner said to me the other day ,most ill live up to about 83yo 84. Its a sad i guess morbid thing to talk about ,i used to try to talk about this to my late father who used to get angry ,but the point is i have planned to about 80yo financially and after the deaths of my 2 colleagues i have decided that the next 20 years i have left to , Grow old disgracefully ! sorry if this topic offends or hurts some of you but its no use pretending its not going to happen