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Maybe educate yourself a bit before making inaccurate and asinine comments. I have a condo on north Pattaya Beach and it was easy to observe what was going on. It wasn't just a few people and, no, most weren't bringing their own food and sitting on the side of the road. Instead, they were staying at Dusit, and Holiday Inn, and Grand Centre Point, and Mytt, and Amari, and A-01, and Cape Dara, and some of the other hotels in north Pattaya Beach. They were coming in enough numbers before the current lockdown for the mentioned hotels to reopen, and others, as well. It was nice to see the activity on the weekends. With the lockdown finally easing, hopefully they will start returning. Also, don't attribute YOUR thoughts to me, thank you. Re-read my post. Nowhere in my post do I claim that domestic tourism will get 'Thailand tourism back to normal'. You can keep that asinine comment--don't give it to me. Of course it won't. What I and the other poster said was it was nice to see some signs of life in Pattaya--even if it is mostly just on weekends for now. Nice to not see everything closed. Encouraging to see some lights on again in the big hotels. Nobody is saying that some big hotels re-opening and some activity on weekends means tourism is back. It's not. But, it's nice to observe a breath of life here and there. As I said to the other rude poster, lighten up already.

Sorry, but what a stupid, thoughtless post from you. Lighten up already. He was commenting on observing some life on Jomtien Beach over the weekend, and remarking that it was nice to see the activity. I noticed the same thing on Pattaya Beach the other weekend--lots of people around on the promenade, on the beach, sitting in the beach chairs, cars parked all along Beach Road. It was great to see the activity there, too. With restrictions eased, it's nice to see visitors from Bangkok and elsewhere starting to return on the weekends. Pardon us for being happy to see 'a breath of life'.

I got 2 doses of Sinovac there in June and July. Worth a try.

I caught my mistake before I hit the 'vote' button.

Yes, always a 'providing...' or 'as long as...' or 'unless...'. People can't plan that way. Make it a firm opening with NO 'except for...' nonsense or don't open at all.

I didn't get past #1 in the chart. Likely the vast majority of potential tourists won't either. They want just 1 requirement and only 1: fully-vaccinated.

I agree. As usual, a poor, misleading headline. I voted incorrectly initially and had to change my vote.

A large percentage of the working population is not out of work. None of my Thai partner's extended family has lost his or her job. Not one. You could say a large percentage of tourist industry workers have lost their jobs, although even there some are still employed. For those who never lost their jobs, it's been nearly 2 years of staying home, not eating out, not doing much shopping, not doing much socializing, not traveling anywhere internationally. In a nutshell, not spending much money. If international travel is still curtailed, many Thais will travel domestically. Before this last lockdown, the large hotels in Pattaya were getting enough domestic business for many of them to re-open.

I voted to raise the foreign quota but I frankly don't see that it will make much difference to most projects. The sales will likely be spread out--a few in this project, a few in that. Some projects that have reached their foreign quota might be able to sell a few of the leftover unsold units. Some owners might switch from company ownership to foreign quota. I see it as a positive and it's at least trying something, rather than the current, useless thumb twiddling.

Right. It's also meaningless to look at just 3 years of sales and then make all sorts of totally inaccurate statements about how many condos are owned by this nationality and how many by that nationality. It's just the last 3 years of sales, of which two have been very depressed due to covid. I'd rather see a listing of sales by nationality for the last 10 or 12 years. That would give a better idea.

'...iron out the final details of the requirements.' Yikes. Lost 90% of the potential tourists already with that. Put the iron away. The only requirement should be fully-vaccinated.

As others have said, it's difficult to find seaview houses around Pattaya and if you do they are likely quite expensive. You might consider a condo project like Garden Cliff 1 in Wong Amat. It's a small 6 story project of about 30 large condos and 4 townhouses right on a small cliff overlooking the beach. My partner and I used to own a condo there. It was 3 bedroom/3 bath with its own outside entrance like a house. It felt like we were living in a bungalow at the beach. Something like that might possibly work and you could buy in foreign quota.

Let's remember the figures are for the past 3 years only.

Intramuscular

No, not in 11 years here.

Today I got an AZ booster in Pattaya. I had 2 doses of Sinovac, the last on July 5, booked with the Mor Prom app and my pink card. Sinovac administered at Pattaya City Hospital. Thai partner was able to arrange the booster, which was given at a Naklua school near the government center. The whole process today was well-run. We arrived around 12:45 and were done around 1:30.

Yes, Asians are a different race from Caucasians. But, once again, a country is not a race. Korean is not a race. American is not a race. Canadian is not a race. "I am of the French race." No, you're not; you have French nationality. If a Caucasian becomes a citizen of Thailand he or she is now Thai, but still Caucasian. Thailand's policy is not racist--it's not favoring one race vs. another race. It might be discriminatory, but calling it racist is incorrect.

Maybe for Issan but not necessarily Pattaya. Houses in nice gated communities in Pattaya are maintaining their values and houses are finding buyers. Two homes in my small project of 38 homes sold recently for good prices after being on the market for short periods.

Thank you!

Thanks for posting. Did you have an appointment or did you just walk in? I had 2 Sinovac shots at Pattaya City Hospital, the second July 5. Thanks again.

It's not really being lazy. The poster was using it as a word. RV has evolved beyond being an abbreviation. I think there's a magazine called RV Life. And blogs about RVing and, as the poster said, the RV lifestyle. People refer to themselves as RVers. It would be awkward to call themselves recreational vehiclers. Sort of like scuba--which evolved into its own word but actually began as an abbreviation for self-contained underwater breathing apparatus.

It's always a surprise to me that you see abandoned houses in nice developments. My Thai partner's sister lives in a very nice gated community in Bangkok and there are at least 3 or 4 abandoned houses. I asked him about them and he thinks most aren't banked-owned. Rather, the owners are wealthy and just aren't using them. Wealthy, but letting the weeds grow high. In Pattaya, we were house-hunting and we visited a nice gated project and looked at a horrible property that looked abandoned. Termite-infested, bad water damage, filthy inside and full of trash. Needed a total makeover. Turns out the house is owned by a rich Bangkokian. One of those very busy sorts and he had not been to Pattaya and checked on the home in several years. Apparently had no idea it had so badly deteriorated until his agent sent him photos. Likely more of those than you'd think. We ended up buying a fixer-up property that had sat empty for many years. One of our neighbors told us that the weeds and undergrowth got so bad that the project paid a few times to have it cleared as a hazard before someone involved with the property arranged for periodic grounds maintenance.

30 million American domestic tourists visited Florida between April and June this year, bringing their 'local' and not 'international tourist' dollars. It certainly was welcome 'revenue' for plenty of Florida's tourist businesses. The key words in your statement are.'...money's just moving around...'. That's exactly what you want. Money circulating and not sitting around doing nothing, helping nobody. Instead of traveling internationally and spending their money abroad, suppose Bangkok families visit Pattaya instead and stay at hotels during their visits. A hotel is able to reopen and hires a maid to clean the rooms. She now has a job and some money and she can spend some of that money to get her hair cut. The hair stylist has now earned some money and she can spend some of it to . . . Money's 'moving around'. That's good.

No, it's not 'racist'. Korean isn't a race. Neither is American or British or Thai. They're all nationalities. At the most it might be considered discrimination to favor one nation over another nation with tourist policies. Ditto for favoring a citizen of one nationality over a citizen of another nationality. For example, a Thai citizen regardless of race might pay a park entrance fee in Thailand of 50 baht. Foreigners of other nationalities, regardless of race, might pay 100 baht. Possibly discrimination in some eyes. But, not racist. Now, it would be racist if an Asian American is charged 50 baht to get into the Thai park and a white American is charged 100 baht.

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