4MyEgo

It's obvious that the data on how long immunity would last with vaccines, that said, Israel is a good example, 6 months and with boosters they can reduce the spread of the virus if everyone gets on board, if they don't then they are up S--t Creek. From the link you provided further down the post on the other page. https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/08/20/1029628471/highly-vaccinated-israel-is-seeing-a-dramatic-surge-in-new-covid-cases-heres-why Israeli national HMO Maccabi Healthcare Services, which conducted the preliminary study of 149,144 Israelis who received three Pfizer shots, said for Israelis above age 60, a Pfizer booster shot reduced the chances of infection by 86% and reduced the chances of severe infection by 92%.

It also states that it is not peer reviewed, and I found the article contradictory, badly written for a better word. Researchers found that fully vaccinated but people were much more likely to have a 'breakthrough' Covid infection than people with natural immunity for the disease. Overall participants who were double jabbed were 5.96 times more likely to be infected and 7.13 times more likely to experience symptoms including cough, fever and shortness of breath. I am under no illusion that I can contract the virus even after being double dosed. That said I wouldn't want to take my chances contracting the virus being unvaccinated. My take from all of this is that the jab is only good for 6 months, so booster required by then until they can come up with something better and longer lasting.

I never said that, e.g. trust governments, au contraire. I have to disagree with your comment above as I believe that the vast majority of people are serious, just look at how many are being vaccinated, here that number would grow exponentially if they could offer people a half decent vaccine. Covid will become less a threat when the majority of the world gets vaccinated, otherwise it will continue to be out there doing what it does, and of no one likes restrictions, particularly me, but we have them already, e.g. you cannot drive a motor vehicle without a license, travel abroad without a passport, travel on public transport without paying, are these not restrictions, I could go on, but you should get my drift. We understand history, however if you feel you are free at the moment, you are misinformed, we have and are under control, has been like that for a long time, however we do have our freedoms, as long as we comply, just try and go against the grain and see what happens and my point will be proven. We are born and live in fear till we die, Yes I have been vaccinated 1st dose Pfizer, I wouldn't wear a mask in the plane if not required, however if I had to, I would probably see if I could wear a shield as masks for a certain period are ok, but on a long haul flight, would be a pain. Anyone that suggests that they are not fearful of death is already dead in my opinion. I love life, I fear death, but I don't hide under my bed, I live life and have had a great life, having experienced many things and travelled the world, at this point in my life having a young family, I take as much care to eat right, exercise and look after my health best I can having almost been taken by a heart attack 13 years ago, so I do have an underlying condition and want to extend my shelf life for as much as possible as I retired 6 years ago enjoying the fruits of my 40 year of labour, after isn't that what we are supposed to do after working in the slave trade for so many decades. I believe I have answered the 1st sentence above and agree it's a personal choice, I for one would never want someone forced to be vaccinated, on the other hand, if they risk the potential of infecting others due to not being vaccinated, then they will face certain restrictions, e.g. if your drunk and go to enter a night club, how far do you think your going to get, and your not even potentially infected with a virus. Fear is definitely out there, not only for over 50's, it is now the younger ones too as they line up to get vaccinated, I recently saw a news program which showed 3 people in hospital, 2 were unvaccinated, one had an appointment the following month, but Covid got him, the 3rd one had one dose but a week into it Covid got her, she was 30 and a single mother, the guy who had a the appointment next month and got Covid looked strong, fit and healthy, he was flat on his stomach struggling to breath, the woman (30) had recovered after 2 weeks but was struggling to breath and could wait to see her kids, the other guy who I haven't spoken of yet was in the same boat as the woman, however he was married, his wife was in another hospital and his two kids were in another hospital. That is the biggest fear I have, i.e. being separated if the family gets Covid, that said, the family has private hospital cover and Buddha willing we don't get it bad enough to end up in a hospital, but if we do, we should be able to be in the same one, beds available, and talking of fear, my biggest is if my wife was taken early, how would I cope with 4 kids, fear is real, but I don't dwell on it, I am conscious of what is going on, but don't allow fear it to control me or my family. If I was single, I couldn't give a rats a$$, but being married, I take my responsibilities serious so as to provide for my family and see the kids through to an age that they can stand on their own, almost there ???? Stay safe, be conscious as you say, but also realise things are changing and if you don't want to be restricted, then get on board, otherwise be left behind, but don't spit chips that you weren't told about it.

Your welcome. I accept that it is your choice, that said, I do know all about Family, regardless of nationality, but as we are talking about Thai family, the 1st thing I did here was establish the I was me, and my wife was my wife, her family was that, her family. I never put restrictions on them, apart from the fact that I like my privacy, my wife understands me as she lived abroad with me for 10 years, suffice to say she keeps her family at bay, knowing how farangs call before coming over, even though we all live in the same village, none of them visit which is how I like it, apart from her youngest sister who is a single mother and very needy, she would come over with her 2 year old at least 3 times a day and he would trash the place while she would sit and play her mobile off of our internet, no control over the kid, expecting our kids to look after him while she laze about on the chase, she always wanting to borrow 100 baht here and there from her sister, take some food with her, and while I would turn a blind eye to it, my wife knew that it bugs me and would apologise, and I would tell her that it wasn't her problem and made a suggestion to her, which was instead of your sister coming over 3 times a day, why don't we lock the gate, and if she asks why is the gate always locked, tell her your husband doesn't want people coming around because of Covid, that went straight over the top didn't it, as she would ring my wife 3 times a day when she was at the gate, my wife would go and open and stay in the front yard with her until she would leave, that was another suggestion of mine, and of course when she asked why don't we go inside, she would say my husband is asleep, and alternate, the kids have home schooling and my husband doesn't want them disturbed till they finish their school work, eventually she got it, now she comes over once a day if we are so unlucky, and with the 2 year old maybe once a week. Suffice to say sometimes you got to be cruel to be kind otherwise people will take advantage of you. If you want to show this 29 year old how compassionate you are and putting those that have stone walled her in place by showing them what you are made of, then by all means, more the fool you in my opinion, however it could back fire as Covid at your age is a death wish and I hope that is not the case. I applaud your chivalry, however I don't buy that you can't refuse the Thai family, it's all about how you respond and your approach and if you break an egg shell, then so be it. I have refused all of her family members and extended family, on many occasions for many things and my wife explains to them that they are not my family, she actually respects my stance, she is my family as are our kids, I do not have a welcome mat out the front of my house for anyone who wants to infringe on our privacy, you know how Thai families can be if you allow them to be, that said, we do help out here and there when required, however on our terms and conditions, simple really. Best of luck either way, but you really have nothing to prove (hero) ????

Care to provide a link to back up what you are stating ?

Why not just put a chip in us that says we are vaccinated. That was sarcasm people, whatever it takes to make it safer for all to be able to get back to some kind of normality. Personally, I am all for it, the strangest thing is people just don't understand, this is the new world, it is what it is, Covid is real and we have to take steps to mitigate it's effect on us. I for one wouldn't want to be sitting in a plane with unvaccinated people or in a restaurant, while shopping etc etc, vaccinations and QR Codes/Certificates of people proving they have been vaccinated is the way to go and if that is what it takes to move forward, then I am all for it. For the unvaccinated, you have your choice, I respect that, but do keep away from me.

Having scrolled through the Encyclopaedia post, it is just another one of life's adjustments, I just hope I'm alive till the bars open again, so thirsty and horny ????

@inThailand Suggest you both contact your local (City) Provincial Health Clinics as many are starting to provide Pfizer through onsite registration. Criteria is over 60 or under 60 with pre-existing condition/s. As for Thai's I am told it's Sinovac 1st dose and AZ 2nd dose otherwise would have had the wife vaccinated, albeit have paid for Moderna in October, so she has to wait which is making me anxious.

I understand your plight and compassion, however in these times anyone who has had Covid, recovered or not, should be steered clear of IMO, helping out one by taking them in for a little while under normal circumstances is understandable, but in these times, ones life is more important, so IMO best to not accommodate her in your house, the hotel, anywhere with an allowance for food is best for a week, after that, it's up to you.

For those in the area or surrounding, wife received a call today advising that Pfizer was there for me. We put our name down in June, suffice to say, got Pfizer in Udon Thani beginning of the week. Anyone who hasn't had and wants Pfizer best make contact with the Crown Prince Hospital asap, noting it is Sunday, could also be worth a drive if no answer and don't forget your passport and medical docs just in case. Also I am over 60 so would think this is for those over 60 and possibly those under 60 with pre-existing conditions. If one of you do get it through information provided from this post, let us know. Best of luck.

I also registered on the Mor Prom App and my wife received a call on the 4th of June to show up at the hospital as per the appointment for the 7th June, however she advised them that I was not going as I had changed my mind, we then paid for Moderna for October so that my wife could at least get a decent vaccine along side me. I also left my name down with the local hospital, a couple of weeks later, wife gets a call, tell your husband to come for Sinovac, no thanks was the reply, now was in June, today wife got a call from the same hospital, tell your husband to come for Pfizer, oh thanks but no thanks, he got it in Udon Thani earlier this week by registering at the Provincial Health Clinic and then the University for the jab, oh ok thanks. I have also registered at Bangkok Hospital KK and apparently I have an appointment for the 12th of September subject to email confirmation and I also registered with Expatvac on the 1st of August, nothing has come back apart from your application was successful and that an email will be sent to you for you to confirm your appointment within 24 hours. The above said, the Mor Prom App was more a success than others, it was my choice to forgo the AZ jab and the Sinovac jab at the local, that said, the local at least called twice, 1st offering the Sinovac in late June and now for Pzifer. If I waited for the Bangkok Hospital KK and Expatvac, they might come good, but when nothing is cooking, you got to go out to eat, hence the reason I took up an offer through a mate who texted me that it was game on at Udon Thani. For those near Sawang Daen Din, between Udon Thani and Sakon Nakon, they were the ones who offered me Pfizer today, so might be worth a call, although they did the wife they had limited supplies of Pfizer.

Yes there appears to be a clear difference with the Thai system vs the western system. My x back in the home country in 1999 signed the court docs before being submitted in front of her lawyer agreeing to my terms, i.e. 50/50 split on the house and shared care for the kid, again one week with her, and one week with me, she advised me that her lawyer wouldn't sign off on it as it was unfair to her, with my reply being why don't you ask her if she go to court for you for free to get you more and how long you will have to wait as I was in possession of the matrimonial house. She said she just wanted to get it over with and I said then you instruct your lawyer to sign a waiver, i.e. that she has advised you that she feels that it is not a fair deal and that you accepted the terms of the agreement, the court can then decide if it's not a fair deal. Unbeknown to me a few weeks later I got a call from my family law specialist telling me to come in as she had received a letter from my x's lawyer, so I went in and she handed it to me, the letter read, that her client had a change of mind and now wanted 70% as she felt 50% was unfair, my lawyer then presented me with the sealed court documents which were dated one day before the x's lawyers letter to her. I was very relieved, and at the same time disappointed that my x would try one over me, so I went around and knocked on her door as she only lived up the road, she said what are you doing here, I said responding to your lawyers letter to mine wherein you are now wanting an extra 20%, and my reply is, your a little two late, here is a copy of the court order dated one day before your lawyers letter, anyways, I am off to buy me a lottery, guess it's my lucky day. True story, my Thai wife signed a prenuptial agreement before we were married, she had no problem in doing so fully understanding what was mine was mine, she had to have an independent lawyer explain everything to her, again, I found myself in a position that I had to tell her to tell him to sign a waiver to which he did and she signed the prenuptial agreement, the difference with this one is she isn't a pain in the ass, listens, apologies, is affectionate, not controlling or jealous and will end up with the lot in the end.

"Your a funny guy", I met my wife of 15 years in a bar 15 years ago like most happily married guys here, and those who divorced theirs, are you looking for a virgin ? Wait for the bars to open up again, you never know your luck in the LOS.

You said: "I think a lot of foreigners have applied already for a vaccine because no pfizer or moderna available.. Now the application is open for foreigners without any vaccination yet.. yes of course If you have paid for Moderna you don't apply for Pfizer and if you had Sinovac, Sinopharm because there is nothing else, Besides even Astra Zeneca was a problem for a foreigner. Now you can't apply anymore if you 1 of these.. So 54.000 looks a bit but in fact it the ones who finally will get something"

My comment was based on tourists coming here, so best you get over it because your an exception living here, in other words don't start something that has nothing to do with you. Get home safely.

Another misleading heading, "6 billion worth of assets seizure met", as if to say from this bust, click bait obviously. Sickens me to think these cops will all get a cut of the drug money/assets, so WRONG !

If I listened to you, I would be vulnerable, e.g. I got my 1st dose of Pfizer on Monday, even though I paid for Moderna back in June for October, if it arrives then, albeit I am told by many that it won't arrive till early next year, we won't mention the Thai Red Cross skimmed 1.1 million doses of the 5 million doses from the private hospitals proposed order thanks to government interference when there were 9 million people who wanted to pay for it. What you are saying is those that paid for Moderna shouldn't take Pfizer when they are (me included) entitled to it, as far as I am concerned Moderna will become a booster shot for me next year regardless if it arrives in October, i.e. I will just move the date back. I consider my move to be rather prudent as opposed to sitting and waiting for Covid to knock on my door with no protection, and I would rather take my chances better now being vaccinated with 1 dose, soon to be 2. If you paid for Moderna and believe that you shouldn't take Pfizer, then I would call you a hero, let's leave that there shall we.

Hard I am, and my reply was based on the information that he provided, at no time from memory did he say he tried everything to keep the marriage together, no mention of communication, so to you, my "assumed" comments might sound silly, but not to me. Marriage to me, especially when there are kids involved has to have communication. I have been where you are coming from, my x (non Thai) wasn't a communicator or an acceptor, she was never wrong, and never wanted to discuss things and would become violent. When the child was born, I would not leave the marriage when she said to me one day, when are you leaving (we had an 18 month old daughter together), now 24 years of age, with my reply being, it is not me that is destroying the marriage, therefor as you are the one who is the one destroying the marriage, perhaps you should depart, and she did. I also knew that 9/10th of the law meant possession and if I had left the matrimonial house that I worked so hard for, I could kiss my chances of getting better than 25% out of it come settlement years down the track after a lengthy court battle. The above said, she rented an apartment for 6 months down the road, she gave me little contact with the little one, 2 days every fortnight, long of the short, I got wind from her cousin who was a good mate with me at the time that she wanted to come back. When I heard that I had a registered property Valuer value the house and an estate agent in to appraise the house, also providing their marketing campaign costs and fees, her timing was perfect, she came over the next day (Saturday) and said she wanted to try again and I handed her the documents from the agent to sign and the valuation report stating the properties worth, she said you have got to be kidding, I said, no, you moved on, now I want to do the same, and I will see a family law specialist on Monday to obtain access to our daughter under a shared care agreement, one week with you and one week with me, and a 50/50 split on the house and if you don't want to sign the agency agreement to sell the property, I will also have him apply to the courts for the divorce, suffice to say you can either be smart and move on and save $150,000 in lawyers fees and a delay to getting your share of the funds from the sale of the property based on a 50/50 split or do it the hard way. She was taken back by my sudden bold move, but I was happier without her and accepted that this was the best route out for us and it was as I never regretted it, can't say that she didn't try to make life hell for me after the settlement and up until our daughter turned 18 with the child support agency, but with research comes knowledge and I managed well, she even tried to turn our daughter against me, but not once did I put her down in from of our daughter, when she was old enough, I handed her a pile of documents and said read this in your spare time and know that in life there are always to sides to a story, when she finished going through the documents, she said, I am sorry sorry dad, I had no idea, and that she (her mother) is such a liar, with reply being, people do things with they are hurt, just let it go, I am not hurting, I have a beautiful and intelligent new wife who loves me and communicates with me of which she knew, having raised her for the better part of 8 years, and they are still tight. Moral of my story is, if you try, try and try again, but don't be the one to walk away when there is kids, if she does, then she has done you the favour, kids are resilient, and will grow, however if there is a chance to resolve through communication, then that is the best avenue. Also I have never wondered why she hasn't partnered since 1999, although I would strongly say that it would have a lot to do with her lack of willing to communicate from my experience. Did I mention, hard I am !

Surprised no one took his pulse while waiting for paramedics.

KFC coming clean LMAO, what's Ronald up to ????

What can I say, travelling to Thailand with the amount of Covid cases per day would be concerning for the brightest spark not to come here. Those that came here are obviously short circuited, in my opinion, selfish for another word, sounds harsh, but I said it, so, they can deal with it, not our problem, weep and whatever, no sympathy from me because you don't travel to hot spots in this climate and you don't trust governments ????

There is an old saying, i.e. it takes two to tango and without "communication" your marriage is destined to fail. Having kids can put pressure on a marriage, i.e. if your not on the same page, but you have already said, she is a good mum, so what is the underlying problem, the toy you once wanted badly enough doesn't work the way you want it to anymore so your going to throw it away instead of trying to fix it ? You have already mentioned the problems you face on your side, e.g. you don't go out, you don't have a social life, etc, etc, but did you already forget you have 2 young children and no doubt you wife is exhausted, because looking after kids is NOT an easy task. We have 4 kids, she is full on with them and when she has some time for me, which is usually around meal time, we joke, and I complain that I don't see her anymore, she laughs and throws jokes back at me, like I see you on your laptop, what are you doing, looking for a younger version of me, (we have been very happily married 15 years), why, because we communicate, life can be serious and boring, but both have to be supportive of the other, especially with kids. I suppose you only care about your own feelings, what about hers, what support do you provide her, my wife knows exactly where I am and can ask anything of me, just knowing that I am here and ready is all she wants, we also sleep in separate rooms, nothing to do with anger or anything like that, she likes the air con on all night, I don't so she sleeps in the girls room, but hangs with me till the girls are ready for sleep, we still have a very active sex life which is very important in a relationship as far as I'm concerned, so as long as she still loves me long time, I'm good. You need to have a good long hard look at your communication skills, not knowing your wife, Thai's are also not the best communicators, but if you assure her that it's ok to let it out without fear, you never know, you just might find out what is on her mind. You don't have kids to separate them from their mother, because regardless of what you think, kids NEED and WANT their mother more so than their father, so don't even think about robbing them of that. If you communicate with your wife and support her, worst case scenario is you can at least become friends for the sake of the kids best interests, and when I say support, it is for her and the kids, in other words, man up and be the father you are support to be as opposed to wanting to run away from YOUR responsibilities. Right between the eyes, I hope so.

You did well helping out a fellow human, the sad reality of all of this is that he probably didn't have insurance cover due to his age and probably thought that he couldn't afford the hospital, e.g. check up, x-rays, staying for a few nights for observation, medications, follow ups. Hope he's healing better than I would expect, sad really.

Come on guys, we know it's just another day in the LOS, wai, reinstatement to a lessor position because of how much of a great cop he was in the force and how he "saved" thousands of kids from these drug dealers. He didn't mean to kill the drug dealer, just scare him while trying to extract information, and just because he forgot how long a person could breath for with plastic bags over his head shouldn't make him a bad person, he killed the drug dealer, and because he tried to cover the murder with a death certificate showing the death as a different cause and he ran away because he panicked and was inexperienced, shouldn't make him a bad person, we are all humans and he had a very stressful job and we should accept that mistakes happen, suffice to say if he had killed more of them, think how much safer Thailand would be. He deserved to live in such a mansion and drive 29 luxury cars so that he can destress, 10,000 baht fine and court costs should do it. His demotion to a police teaching instructor on how to treat suspected drug dealers with plastic bags will send a clear message to drug dealers into the future thus, making Thailand a safer place to live for our kids.