rumak

Actually, i am someone ( not that many of us) who does not run to "go see a doctor, you idiot" . As you have found out , many times they do NOT offer the cure . I won't get into a long rant, but will just say I have done well and corrected many issues by research, and mostly by following "natural remedies" . nuff said I looked, and my previous MRI was 6 years ago ! Only an occasional anti-inflamatory at times since then. Now, as we know, age brings another episode .... to the back . I am going to give it some time to heal. But....... about an ESI ? hmmm we'll see , First an MRI , if no improvement .

What did she do when you screamed ?? lol seriously, thanks for taking the time to tell me your experience . In my many years I have been to Ram , Ram 2, Bangkok hospital, Rajawet (hip surgery) , Sripat, McCormack (mri ) , and of course a few clinics. No, i hardly ever get sick ! This is over an almost 30 year period. I have had good and not so good experiences... nothing horrible . But the 2 procedures i had were with very good doctors . Dr. Suthee fixed my frozen shoulder without surgery ( called manipulation) ... something very few surgeons can do . Broken hip also done very well . ( no pain like when one breaks their hip in a fall ! still, i kinda dread that big needle used for ESI ... and the area involved )

good info in your post. thanks. (before others comment I KNOW that different people have different results...etc etc) . I am doing due diligence, and research . I personally find anecdotal experiences very helpful . SO thanks again to those contributing theirs .

thanks for that info ....... cost ? and recommendation for doctor if possible

Your comments are well taken . If i may opine : the one variable ( and its a biggie ! ) is how each person manages and diagnoses health matters for their bodies , and minds. Not much different than all things in life .... as i am sure you would not think that all contracters have the same capabilities or work ethics . I won't go into my life story ( thank god) ...... but in the matter of health, i have had ups and downs, and yet have continued to stay active and improve my already good diet . My recent development may actually be from trying to even further my activities by frequent swimming , gently and for fairly short periods of time. I felt great . Till, i didn't . Those much heralded benefits often recommended for elders probably aggravated something in my spinal condition . ( and yes, i did try to follow the "how to swim" protocols . Sometimes, sh** just happens . As stated, i am FIRST going to give it some time. I am right now going for an easy stroll around a lake here in Doi Saket . And , doing one or two exercises . (soon to start the one you sent me) Thanks for your help .... i will post from time to time ...... Note: i am not giving up the idea of ESI ....... but that is just one idea i am checking out

If i knew my pain was going to be gone for even 3 years i would be in the hospital tomorrow ! btw : Nobody has said whether the actual shot was VERY painful or not too bad . Good luck going forward ..... maybe surgery time . but gotta see a specialist

you're right. just occurred to me to bring it up . important thanks Sheryl ... ( i will still wait a bit to see how the rest and some light walking and stretching do )

I agree with much of what you say .... and it has been my belief ( and i have read professional statements as well) that the number of conditions affecting the back and lower extremities is tremendous. As are the number of "do this stretch.... do that stretch..... don't do this stretch etc etc) . Having said that .... i think there are a very few skilled doctors/ surgeons available . ( remember, even in US or elsewhere the quality of diagnosing and surgery varies greatly) . I had a successful "manipulation" for a frozen shoulder here in Chiangmai by a renowned ( now retired) surgeon . Impressive . Also had a broken hip surgery , titanium rod , which has turned out well. I was walking distance in about 6 months.... A recent xray shows that all is excellent , now 3 years later. BUT.... I did pray a bit haha . And i am not religious. This back thing is not simple, though many have the usual go see a doctor answer. I believe as you do that just any doctor will not help, and could in fact make mistakes . I have past experience with seeing 3 orthopedic doctors with only the last one making a correct diagnosis. (not the back issue) Even the MRI i had done , which is not cheap, was not interpreted well by 2 doctors.... but the 3rd one showed his expertise by comparison. to be continued............

but......... before, for many years now, when my back hurt I did not have pain or weakness in my legs , hips, knees ( varies in location , and symptom) Also slight numbness in toes at times. Seems like sciatica (which i did not have before) . I know i say this often ( and you have too) ....... its finding a GOOD one that is the secret. I am starting some stretching and will give it a week to see what happens . Dr, Chanagan about 3 years ago looked at my MRI and Xray and did not find anything drastic , just some age related narrowing. Yes, a new MRI might be in order. Pretty sure it is nerve related from lower back . I also agree that tight muscles are a problem ..... very difficult for me to loosen those hamstrings. and bending over is also very limited. I'll let y'all know what happens. First a bit of rest and stretching

thank you . literally hundreds of videos on youtube ( many contradicting what others say) ... I have looked at the one you sent and will give it a try . My one concern with the QL demonstrations are they do not take into account the flexibility of individuals. I will let you know how i do ???? I have always been fit and fairly strong...... but NOT flexible . extremely tight hamstrings . Also, the problem with videos is again: there are such an immense amount of variables/degrees/ causes/ and ages involved. ( yes, that is why an "expert" is needed ) But,,,,,, there are a lot of problems when someone , like millions do, gets the wrong diagnosis. Ultimately < IMO , the patient must be capable of making the right "educated" decisions .

I have had an MRI .... but a couple of years ago . At that time my pain (lower back) would come and go , and I did see a specialist here in CM . He suggested to live with it ( being that it was not at a serious stage) , with occasional use of anti-inflamatories. As time passes, and maybe you also know from personal experience, there can come a time when the pain or discomfort becomes a problem that needs addressing. Probably soon . Of course if i were to get the ESI it would be with a specialist , and I am seeking some personal cases such as yours to inform myself first . The fact that you needed surgery on the lower back, but also injections in the cervical spine is informative . My pain is mostly lower back, but i am now getting more pain in upper regions at times ( and my neck ). Reading about the facet joints also aroused my suspicions that I could be having problems associated with that . Surgery is something many people want to avoid (myself included) ..... as a surgery gone wrong is not unheard of . That is why my first choice would be to try ESI (as you did) . The second area you did which has worked sounds encouraging, and thanks for the info about the facet joints . Gives me some good info for when i go to the specialist . Out of curiosity , which hospital did you use in BKK . Also, doesn't that doctor , or you, have a recommendation for CM ? Thank you for your posting ... rumak

Has anyone had one of these injections to ease lower back pain ? If someone in Chiangmai or Lamphun had one , please tell me where. I will not be going to BKK to do one ...... but still if someone has experience with the ESI injection I would be interested to hear. I have had lower back problem on and off for ten years....not that bad . and have been to doctors and mri, etc. now looking into this option as things are getting a bit worse with age

not worth my time ...........

generally, the naysayers have to look up the word "verbage" . but, cmon, they're too lazy to do that .

be careful . the boogeyman might come get you .

You certainly a not a master of the English language , if that sentence is any indication. Also, a native speaker would (hopefully) understand that my short post was a lighthearted tongue-in-cheek post, and certainly NOT a dig at you . Sorry, i do not have any more time to explain that..... so try to get it. And, have a great day !

Thank you young man . Often times there are good reasons we are grumpy and bitter . But ......... like any age, some are just &&&&&&&&S !

i had to get my glasses ....... to see which finger that was pointing upwards ????

if we had some nice quiet time.... with some johnny walker..... i would tell you some conspiracy theories ( that maybe you haven't heard) . one being why anyone in power , around the world, is NOT chosen by "the people" . it is quite a sad story , though, and of course .... complete nonsense backed only by sources that are fact checked and found spreading misinformation. Just like ............. oops, can't say that either.

my spelllllling has gotttten betttter . but i sttttuttter more.

buy the best tape ( instead of save 20 baht) ......... don't overtighten if pvc connecting to metal pipe...... use the pvc with copper inside

not a subject they want brought up here ..... you will have to ask him ahhhh the good ole days ........

It'll still be the same when you return. Used to be exciting when my friend Yinn was around .

I broke my hip playing basketball .... at 70 ! Next life : play with people smaller and older than me

I just reread yours.... and you are ONLY 6 months post op ! Patience, young man . If you do not push it i believe you will get back to "normal" , little by little . It actually took me almost 2 years before i was getting around without ever thinking of my injury . ( i think being in a wheelchair for 3 months did slow you down a bit .) Try to stand straight and move slow . I do eat meat and lots of avocados .... protein is good. BUT, i also read an opinion that TOO MUCH protein can not be good ( try to read about that . I will go back myself to try to find it) . Keep going. Six months is nothing with these major injuries ..... but healthy people get through it. edit : I also eat 2 good sized fresh eggs every morning ....with a bit of beef or homemade bacon . Plenty of protein ????