Mangostin

That's okay DD, this what the TV brotherhood is all about, knowledge is power and reading back previous posts might help understanding what you might missing, if however you prefer to list what point(s) you are not understanding, i can further elaborate it for you

Is anybody else finding amusing the fact that the people which are now complaining about massive immigration, are often the very same ones which kept glorifying the attacks being made from our armies which were at the base of it all? Why these people aren't protesting against the millions and millions of public money being spent to destroy entire countries??? (standing up against the killing of other human beings would be too much for them, so lets just put it on financial terms)....

Re. the first para. - you didn't use often or IMO....

I agree with the rest of your post, except having 'open borders' for unskilled workers helps employers easily find workers that are prepared to live in overcrowded housing for a while, as the money is still better than in their home countries - and consequently they can then send money to their families back home.

Do you see why they can cheat and twist people up so easily? It's because most of us wouldn't pay attention to some very important details that can set the outcome of an argument.

For how strange it might sounds, when i was referring to universities students, i wasn't specifically pointing out to the "foreigner" ones, there is still plenty of british students which are eager to embrace those exploiting practices, but that's not their faults, more of the previous generations which have set up a similar utterly disgraceful system for them to go trough.

It's time to stop this "is always the farang's fault" BS, worldwide, i for one i am totally sick of it

Not all those who are complaining about unskilled workers entering the UK (and thereby reducing wages for the poorest paid) supported the UK sending troops to various wars. Personally, I've been opposed to every Brit. 'war' since (and including) the Falklands.

That's why some people will use the word "often" instead of "always", we can i think very safely came to the conclusion, that the vast majority of those belligerent souls backing up wars are the same ones that backed the Brexit.

The problem behind the low wages are not the people willing to take up jobs for less, but the employers which couldn't care less if someone couldn't survive on what they paid, and this is possible because there are complacent laws in place which not only accept it but encourage it.

I have seen plenty of staff's meetings where the main point was not just how to lower down wages, but to eliminate them completely by removing the old personnel and putting in place some uni's students, to gain "precious" experience in exchange for meals and an overcrowded lodgement, do you think most company's directors would give the slightest fleaking fluck about your nationality or general welfare? All it matter it's profits, money money money, as they can always find plenty of gullible people around to let them to believe the reason behind their problems, are some other chaps which have even more problems then them......sometime it all looks as we are doomed, really.

citizens will reject work that they feel beneath them (which given the evidence in Dunn's research is difficult to argue against).

Well maybe they are right? So let's just put them into the labs to develop some special piece of machinery or simply an intelligent material which will not requires them to do tasks that just lower down their status, it's a win-win for all...

Is anybody else finding amusing the fact that the people which are now complaining about massive immigration, are often the very same ones which kept glorifying the attacks being made from our armies which were at the base of it all? Why these people aren't protesting against the millions and millions of public money being spent to destroy entire countries??? (standing up against the killing of other human beings would be too much for them, so lets just put it on financial terms)....

That's why it will never happen, or definitely happen.

Take your pick.

I like that, as someone can hardly disagree with it, basically if it's not a "yes" than it's going to be a "no"...but TV is a place where even the unexpected can happen, let's just wait and see

Why "thai" bashing? Do someone really believe that people are showing their disagreement with such a disgraceful attitude because of someone nationality?

Would someone really expect to not to be criticised because he or she belongs to a particular gender, race, group, whatever else or it's maybe the bad actions of someone which triggered that effect?

What happens next?

Pattaya will likely declare war to Germany, sending the yellow submarine filled with its special force, the "Ya Mo" brigade, trained to defeat their enemies with rice, whisky, "deeper activities" and maybe some rotten lobsters...

"Khun Ying Mo according to legend rallied villagers to fight against their captivity, enticing the Lao soldiers with rice wine and sex"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakhon_Ratchasima_Province

I am fascinated by people who travel or move to a foreign country and behave as they would back in their home country. Come on man! Life is too short. Accept you got ripped off and leave and don't come back. Lucky you did not eat the whole thing. Move on. Lesson learned.

Unless you own one of such places, it's really beyond me why someone would say something like that...

What a disgraceful bunch of (unnamed) "robsters"

They wouldn't need to arrest owners living outside LOS. If they arrest a few tenants for illegally renting condos, how long do you think there will be before a "shortage" of tenants destroys the market?

For people that need to have a relatively quick return from their investments, that might be a problem, but on the other hand, for those which can just stuck up properties and don't mind keeping them empty, this will enable them to acquire new items to their collection for peanuts.

Logic suggests, that people in higher up places which makes the rules, would already have a solid economic personal condition, consequently, they surely can gain a lot from a similar scenario.....

If this is going to cause some distress to the population, just blame it on the Fargang, as locals don't do those things, it must to be someone else from far away

But to get a wp for farang u need company and employ 2 thais for 1 farang. Then u need pay salaries and taxes. Costs of wp would be much higher then rental. They asks for impossible.

Its impossible to get wp for condo rental.

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Not impossible, somebody even posted a picture of his WP here.

It works more or less like this, ask the foulang for as much money he can possibly pay, at least until he can't do it anymore, then simply confiscate all he have because this criminal can't pay what the law is asking for, then wait for the next one to come with a smile on your face.

Much more to this than has been reported.

If they are the legal owners nobody can just change the locks and tell them do not come back.

Do you want to bet. This is one of Thailand's favourite tactics.

I had the same thing happen to me once over a car I bought. The villagers where I lived just wanted to keep it and me to be gone.

They threatened me with one local police guy who must have been equal to about a constable. Too bad my good friend was Chief of local detectives. He drove out there and the local constable was on his knees in front of me but if not then it would have been adios to the car.

This goes on everywhere.

It is just a shake down by local thugs.

Same here, some villagers showed up 3 times in the last 10 years, however the matter was always sorted in less than an hour.

Their reasons was always that i am a "falang" and this is Thailand so they felt entitled to take all my belongings without adding anything extra to their argumentation, it's not uncommon at all, just played down and unreported to save face, you know how those things goes around here, sometimes i just wonder how comes they haven't made a law yet to legalize this practice....

An extra, pain in the arse step...not sure why it would be needed or what it would prove.

That's like the verification that you passport it's "true", they require from MFA, it would translate as a nice little earner for some and prove that the farangs can be squeezed out to no end for whatever silly reason someone will come up with.

It was an easy guess

Hardly a comparison. When i cook a meal at home i cook for myself and i do not "sell" it to someone else. Maybe if i sold meals to other people to generate an income then yes it's business.

The definition of "work" doesn't make distinction between doing it for money or for free, you should have known better, it's been discussed to death

But if you don't believe everyone else, the best way to convince yourself is to trying it, just put an advertisement board out of your home, telling people to come and eat for free (no money involved), then explain your theory to the aut aut when they'll show up for a free lunch....

It seems fairly obvious to me that renting properties IS a business and as such would require a work permit for a foreigner. What's the difference between a farang renting several condos out and running a hotel renting rooms out. Both are businesses.

That's undeniable, well said! ....and i seriously hope that more will follow, because if you are cooking your own meal at home, you are clearly taking away business from a restaurant, do you have a business license? No? Then we need some more action, and as soon as even that is sorted, let's take care of all this aliens, why do you think they are called like that? It's because they should have no role in this planet, we need a worldwide's crackdown, StareWhores!!! You aliens go back into the universe, there is a spaceshit leaving every hours, "the planet" is for thai and thai only, there was only a typo in the books when they printed them out, it should have read "thai" planet not "the" planet, i am sure there must to be a law about it somewhere, look at the first pages as it's something that goes back quite a bit in time....

Why do they get so hard to bite the hand that feeds them.

Have you heard the story of that guy bored to eat eggs every days, so one day he had a hen's broth and the following week he starved to death???

We should be glad the authorities have finally taken some action against all these illegal's workers, just wait till they will step up a bit further their checks, because if a farang it's breathing the air that a thai could have, obviously that needs to be pointed out, and how the farang can keep breathing here, without exchanging money, by for example going to buy it's own dinner? We need a crackdown!

And as soon as the country will be freed by this plague, i really hope that they will go to do the same thing in the lands from where these fellongs comes from, let's get to the root of it fast, because if they are owning a home or doing a job abroad, that's something that a thai could do, so we all need to make sure the world adhere to the laws....

Count yourself lucky. Living in Thailand I tried to buy some (unusual) dog beds on the internet yesterday - only to discover that the US suppliers won't deliver to Thailand.

China also manufacture them, but the online sellers were wholesalers - and only selling in large quantities.

Off topic, and I apologise.

Why you need to over complicate your life with this sort of stuff?

Just vote for a Breedog, so by increasing the number of your dogs you will have an exact number to match a wholesale import of dog's beds, then simply resign by escaping the house as soon as the situation will be a complete mess and leave (as long as you choose "leave" you'll be always ok, apparently), whoever else behind to deal with the situation you've created....rule Britannia!

Expensive and a pain in the backside.

Much easier and cheaper to get the extension.

I was under the impression that the OP had a temporary economic constraint to meet the requirement for a cheaper option....maybe i misread it?

Less than 10.000 shouldn't break the bank anyway...at least i hope so

Just go to Savannakhet in Laos, then visa runs every 90 days and you are all sorted for the next 15 months (depending on your exit's date), no money worries for all the people which don't have the funds or more simply wouldn't trust a thai bank to handle those amounts of potential unwilling tips......sorted.

Never heard of that going on down there. My one friend went down there and worked for 7 months with no issues. His employer actually kept paying him while he was down there working, which I thought was really nice.

One of the first people i met longs ago, told me how you can work without WP, driving with no DL, etc...because he was doing that from so many years, somehow i did prefer to stick to the rules.

Ohh and he's no longer around from ages, i let you guess why.

Why every time i post i get errors (Thai Visa database error)????

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