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5 hours ago, heybruce said:"Notably absent from Mr. Assange’s analysis, however, was criticism of another world power, Russia, or its president, Vladimir V. Putin, who has hardly lived up to WikiLeaks’ ideal of transparency. Mr. Putin’s government has cracked down hard on dissent — spying on, jailing, and, critics charge, sometimes assassinating opponents while consolidating control over the news media and internet. If Mr. Assange appreciated the irony of the moment — denouncing censorship in an interview on Russia Today, the Kremlin-controlled English-language propaganda channel — it was not readily apparent." https://www.nytimes.Rcom/2016/09/01/world/europe/wikileaks-julian-assange-russia.html
Maintaining the it is acceptable to deny democracies secrets and allow autocracy secrets is akin to saying it is acceptable to deny one side in a war weapons while the other side is allowed weapons.
Of course if you are on the side of the autocrats this is perfectly acceptable.
Rubbish of course, as has been pointed out previously.....
Wikileaks started out by publishing damning information on regimes. Nobody paid any attention to this ☹️.
When they posted damning info. on US war atrocities, it suddenly became extremely important to shut this guy/organisation down....
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I've just checked the latest UK news - and it's MPs demanding that Assange face swedish justice/British Steel demanding money from the govt. as a result of the brexit vote and Salisbury the best place to live.
To be fair, these headlines are from the BBC and Guardian that are top of the list on google.....
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45 minutes ago, evadgib said:
I doubt that uk news outlets will be interested in reporting on this..... but hope to be proven wrong.
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Everyone (?) agrees that the eu needs to reform, but the eu has no intention of doing so.
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34 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:Agreed and people should note and not forget that what you have illustrated is exactly a similar parallel as to what provided the platform and window of opportunity to what occurred last century in that other European country. But I still am of the opinion that the only way to influence and change it is by remaining within the EU, not leaving it.
So far, that has been proven not to work. Have you noticed the eu making any changes as a result of what has happened? Not only the uk referendum result, but also the rise of anti-eu parties in other countries?
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24 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:Frankly I am not convinced that your extreme view would indeed be so bad, but we are all entitled to our opinion. Many countries within the EU still maintain their monarchies so hence are not and will not be irrelevant. What has been displayed is that the British public selected a total of 650 people as MPs who, due to their partisan views and/or external interests have failed to agree on anything regarding Brexit and consequently the running of all other of the countries issue have been pushed to one side. In other words they are not governing. We do not have a fully functioning government or parliament currently so governance by the EU may not be such a bad thing compared to the 650 shower of sh$$s we have now IMHO.
To a certain extent I agree with you, BUT we cannot allow our MPs (and the eu) to get away with over-riding the democratic referendum - that can only lead to an even more authoritarian govt.....
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1 hour ago, ThaiPauly said:The Government Office working on the "NO Deal" scenario was shut down a couple of days ago ....I have no idea why when if we can't agree a deal what is the other option besides another referendum?
Precisely, the time was supposed to be spent on preparing for the possibiltity of no deal as well as giving time for the brit. govt. to accept the eu/may deal.....
It's now even more obvious that our govt. has absolutely no intention of supporting the leave referendum result.
Hopefully, they'll pay the price at the next GE.
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2 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:I am not actually sure whose deal it is. It is neither a deal that suits the right nor the left, the leavers or the remainers. Reading from many of the European press reports it appears many in the EU don't agree with the deal either. Irrespective of whose side you support the entire process is a shambles.
It's an eu/may 'deal'..... designed to force a remain result....
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But we're straying off topic - which is about the uk govt. pursuing and spending millions to stop Assange escaping on dubious Swedish charges.
He and his supporters proclaImed loudly that it was all about getting him extradited to the US - and this has proven to be the case......
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1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:
Again you are wrong. Under UK law sex without consent is rape.
Very true, but this is not the case with Assange - unless you believe that he had sex with a sleeping woman (with whom he had previously had consensual sex) - without her waking up and being able to stop him....
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2 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:
is this for real. Are you saying a woman cannot be raped if she is awake
Don't be silly.
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5 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said:
Isn't he being extradited under the European Arrest Warrant system which requires no proof from the extraditing state that an equivalent offence under UK law has been committed/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Arrest_Warrant
Precisely....
The laws re. rape are entirely different in the uk - and he couldn't be charged on this account in the uk..... And yet, he was for some obscure reason looking at extradition!!
And that's without getting into his constant claim that this was all about getting him extradited to the US- which has proven to be true.....
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And anyway, its already been proven that it's all about getting Assange extradited to the US....
Assange and his supporters have always saId this - and they've been proven right......
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2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Perhaps you should flip this and examine why you yourself are willing to back Farage not being tried in an open court of law before a jury.
I've have no problems at all with Assange being tried for 'rape' in the uk - except they aren't 'charges' that would work in the uk.....
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1 hour ago, welovesundaysatspace said:
Well, whatever. You realized by now you lost Brexit and your whole little revolution. I know it hurts; you’ll get over it.
That's not going to happen as Farage has started a new brexit party.
So it will all happen again in a few years time.
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2 hours ago, luckyluke said:The U.K. government/parliament is a mess.
The country is divided between Leavers/Remainers.
The country is divided between Labour/Tory voters.
So the E.U. should be a mess as well, so we will not be alone, is the reasoning for some here.
It's a mess because the politicians are doing everything in their power to stop the uk leaving.
Nobody has any problem with the remainers starting a remain party.
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4 minutes ago, SpaceKadet said:
Somehow "I told you so" does not cut it anymore.
In was not clear from the previous articles, but now we know. Julian was arrested because of the extradition request by the US. Julian and other people in the know have been saying that for over 8 years now.
It was well known that US was preparing charges from the very beginning, just waiting for an opportunity to get Julian.
Isn't that what I said?
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1 hour ago, heybruce said:
That would be great, it would deter some shady characters from running for office.
Perhaps Trump will provide the impetus to write such a law. However Mitch "must protect Trump" McConnell won't ever allow a vote in the Senate on such a law.
It's pretty obvious that no politician would support such a law.....
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Not that it matters, as this thread is about Wikilinks - good or bad.
Some of us think we should know the truth when our govts. behave badly - others think differently.
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17 minutes ago, blazes said:"The idea that Assange is a front for the Russians is absurd"
"“#Wikileaks has released 800,000 documents about Russia..."
- John Pilger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0ejp6pKQ44
John Pilger is one of the most respected (albeit very left-wing) journalists of the last 40 years or so.
RT is far from a respected source, and watching the video reveals it to be RT.
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9 minutes ago, Mavideol said:
how does a sleeping person can have sex without waking up
Quite, I give up.
More than a few posters have no idea as to the'rape' accusations - and even more are just convinced that Assange is a pro-russia supporter- rathe than a whistle blower....
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30 minutes ago, nauseus said:
The May deal is an EU deal. We need a good deal for all sides. Then there can be consensus. Amen.
A good TRADE deal for both sides - something that has been left at the bottom of the list by both the eu and uk govt.....
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19 minutes ago, billd766 said:
So what happens if neither Leave or Remain get the super majority?
1 Does the UK then revert to the original referendum result?
2 Go back to TMs plan that has already been rejected?
3 Automatically leave on a no deal?
4 or more ?????
And that's the point.
We're arguing about the issue that our representatives' aren't representing us at all - and what should be the NEXT referendum question to ensure remain! ????
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29 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:
Accept the May deal and the UK will leave. Parliament has already given the answer that the UK should not leave without a deal so the second referendum will only need those two choices as I had previously speculated, or else it will be the same old issue of non decision.
It's always sad to hear that remainers think this way ☹️.
Julian Assange arrested by British police at Ecuadorean embassy
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You managed to miss the point of the article! ????
But I do agree that it is an article worth reading.