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21 minutes ago, seancbk said:
These factories provide accommodation for the workers on-site. The workers basically live there full time anyway.
89% of migrant workers in Samut Sakhon live off site from the factories
Page 40 : http://un-act.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Trafficking_Estimates_Thailand.pdf
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1 minute ago, Cake Monster said:One very sad aspect of this horrible situation that has occurred to me, is that there may be many children involved in these " Lock ins " . Children also being held in the Factories.
I sincerely hope not.
I am sure UNHRC and other NGO will be keeping a very close Eye on the situation as it develops, and surely Thailand will have some explaining to do to the EU and US over Human Rights abuses in the Fish Canning Industry, which already has a very poor reputation in the West.
We all know that Covid has to be controlled in some way, but surely this is not the answer, the answer would be to lock out all the Workers and close the Factories, while locking down the entire province.
That was one of my thoughts also, even if children are not locked in the factory their parents may be while the kids are stuck in the migrant camps? Overall its a dire situation that shows a complete lack of emotional and physical well being for fellow humans particularly the the vulnerable.
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16 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:What would you do? Are you volunteering to pay all these thousands of workers 14 days in 5 star hotels?
Flippant and shows your true lack of empathy to the migrant workers who are now locked in the factories.
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27 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:Factories normally have their own canteens, post offices, GP offices, etc. Probably they would turn some unused area into sleeping area, but all the rest is already there.
Really, you know that do you, can you provide some evidence? Yes throw a few pillows and a couple of mattresses in an unused area job done...........
You sound like one of the officials who made this negligent decision.
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5 minutes ago, webfact said:
The provincial public health office has already collected saliva samples from 800 employees for testing, and is expected to collect samples from the remaining workers by Wednesday.
So here's the first admission that they are now concentrating on the unreliable antibody saliva tests for mass screening.
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"Dr. Kiatipoom said that, in the past, health officials had focused on pro-active screening to find infections in the factories and communities in Samut Sakhon but, from now on, he said that the focus will be shifted to controlling the spread of the virus in risk areas, like factories, and among at-risk groups."
Quick lesson on how to stop mass testing 101. Let it spread in a contained area, forget human rights
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4 hours ago, webfact said:In case of more serious side effects, Dr. Thawee said sufferers must be admitted to hospital for treatment, adding that about 0.7% of those who develop serious side effects die or experience some disability, for which the state will provide compensation.
Touch of scare mongering by the Dr there. If you're going to discuss side effects and percentages then give the whole picture for gods sake. Plus cite where you got these figures from.
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Next headline coming soon. Phuket Closes schools, bars, entertainment venues due to a covid case from the Bangkok.
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8 hours ago, Santzes said:
Quick google shows Samut Sakhon to have a population of 60 000, obviously those figures are never accurate especially with a big migrant population, but it won't be off by that many multiples - how long can you keep testing there 10 000/d, without going through the same people many times?
If that were correct then I would agree with you but its not. Google harder
Migrant workers in Samut Sakhon WHO estimate in July 2020: 400,000. https://www.who.int/thailand/news/feature-stories/detail/in-thailand-s-fishing-and-seafood-processing-capital-burmese-migrants-get-help-to-protect-themselves-from-covid-19
Samut Sakhon general population 585,000 https://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/samut-sakhon-population (there are links with higher figures also)
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44 minutes ago, Sheryl said:
Percent positive has been well below the 5% threshold. And almost all from one district.
Not sure how you're getting a positive percent figure of "well below" 5% threshold in previous days?
Samut Sakhon we should be reducing tests?
Pro active testing numbers not including walk in cases in Samut Sakhon
2nd Feb = 688
1st Feb = 782
31st Jan = 731
30th Jan = 865
29th Jan = 686
28th Jan = 724
27th Jan = 714
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1 hour ago, Sheryl said:Vast majority of the positive cases are in Myanmar workers. Their numbers are very large and not all have been tested yet. We will keep seeing these sorts of numbers until they all have been.
No despite the high numbers still testing positive in the other thread they've just announced that they are reducing the tests from 10,000 a day to 2,000 a day as of tomorrow. So expect a nice looking graph heading downwards soon. Its a great way to get that shrimp market back up and running.
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words words no action, its just icing without the cake.
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2 hours ago, webfact said:
The testing target has now been reduced to 2,000 tests per day from today onwards, as opposed to the previous rate of 10,000 tests per day.
Numbers of positive cases still high but testing to be reduced?
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4 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:Personally, I'd put deputy agriculture minister Thammanat Prompao in charge of vaccines.
He has the requisite experience.
His mates have already been busted.
Police departments in Jiangsu, Beijing and Shandong have arrested more than 80 people involved in producing more than 3,000 fake Covid-19 vaccine doses, Xinhua News Agency reported
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/01/asia/china-fake-covid-vaccines-intl/index.html
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4 hours ago, webfact said:“If any vaccine company contacts us, it will go through the system immediately.
Seek and you shall find, wait and you will be last in the queue..............again
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4 hours ago, webfact said:The minister said that he will ask the prime minister for 5 million doses of anti-COVID-19 vaccine
???????????? sorry, how can we take this seriously
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16 hours ago, ukrules said:Both of my parents who are in their mid 70's have been vaccinated at some point over the last 2 weeks and they had no side effects at all.
It was the AstraZeneca vaccine commonly known as 'the Oxford vaccine' - the same one Thailand has ordered tens of millions of doses of and will then at some point manufacture under a technology transfer deal for onward distribution throughout Asia.
My 91 year old mother in the UK received her second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech shot on the 6th Jan. Sore arm for a few hours thats all.
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Prediction:
Tomorrows numbers in Samut Sakhon will reduce by 50% as mass testing ends with the introduction of antibody tests
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5 minutes ago, LosLobo said:
and no mention of those 21 cases in Samut Prakan in todays figures?
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I heard of this guy when the coup happened and his views so I'm not particularly impressed, however I fully agree with his plea for the urgency in procuring more vaccines. My only criticism being that this should be the very first paragraph because everything else in his open letter hinges on this actually happening.
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Just reported on BBC, soldiers are out and all communications including the internet has been cut in Yangon.
Looks like that coup is on the way.
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2 hours ago, webfact said:21 cases were among 281 Thai, Myanmar and Cambodian workers at a factory in Samut Prakan, who were screened
As expected its not just Samut Sakhon
Around 8% infection rate. Now lets see some rapid action and mass testing in all surrounding factories not just this one.
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Samut Sakhon. Its spreading, this just in from Thai PBS News via a tv report and tweet
Order closing now! Mahachai Railway Market And the Mae Nei market from 1 to 7 February, after more than 10 traders infected with COVID-19. traders called for proactive testing. 1 February for merchants to gradually pack their belongings from the store
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"Samut Sakhon Central Shrimp Market, the epicentre of the latest wave of Covid-19, is ready to reopen by the end of January after a big clean up."
One week ago................oops
5 days ago CCSA also said the first week of Feb would see Samut Sakhon downgraded to a yellow area. Looks like the plan is falling apart.
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7 factories in Samut Sakhon sealed until end of February, no staff allowed to leave
in Bangkok News
Posted · Edited by Bkk Brian
You believe wrong. I live close to a number of large migrant camps, this is how they travel to the factories and nearby workplaces. As for you're experience of them appearing content, a monkey in a circus can appear content. Did you talk to the workers and ask how they are feeling?