Bkk Brian

42 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

why would the President of the USA stop taking something that is known to be working, if he was smart enough to take it in the beginning, why would he be stupid enough to stop taking it, come on now, your smarter than that, I would hope.

Trump on video 28th July: “I happen to believe in it. I would take it. As you know, I took it for a 14-day period. And as you know, I’m here. I happen to think it works in the early stages,”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/28/trump-says-he-still-thinks-hydroxychloroquine-works-in-treating-early-stage-coronavirus.html

37 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Almost all of the key advances are being made in  Germany, France, UK, USA, Japan, Netherlands, Australia and Canada.  The Russians and Chinese have been trying to hack the USA, UK and Canada to access the novel intellectual data, not Thailand.

 

Looks like the Russian hacking paid off, they're getting approval for vaccine in 2 weeks, I pity the front line health workers who are first inline for the shots.

Exclusive: Russia prepares for world's first approval of a Covid-19 vaccine by mid-August, but questions remain.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/07/28/europe/russia-coronavirus-vaccine-approval-intl/index.html

Of course as with Russia there is no published scientific data on the vaccine yet.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Three Thai monks in Los Angeles have been diagnosed with COVID-19

Along with 45,000 other covid positive cases in Nevada, why is this even news?

41 minutes ago, Yinn said:

Up to them.

No its not actually, in western countries its against the law to refuse customers based on race, nationality or ethnicity, unlike here in Thailand where its fine to ban farrangs in bars and temples

14 minutes ago, Mung said:

China is very good at making and selling plastic rice

Its not bad at yield per hectare either:

China : 6.5 tons

Vietnam : 5.4 tons

Philippines : 3.8

Thailand: 2.8 tons

If Thailand wants to compete long term it needs to improve its farming methods

1 minute ago, steelepulse said:

Tell that to all the countries that are using this effectively.  

 

 

Yes for parasites 

1 hour ago, steelepulse said:

Ivermectin  is being used quite a bit in Central and South America and from what I've read, they are having success with it.

 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220302011

 

Highlights

 

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Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro.

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A single treatment able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in virus at 48 h in cell culture.

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Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing.

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Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines.

 

It works just fine for ticks on my pack of dogs and we are happily tick free.

FDA Letter to Stakeholders: Do Not Use Ivermectin Intended for Animals as Treatment for COVID-19 in Humans

The FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine has recently become aware of increased public visibility of the antiparasitic drug ivermectin after the announcement of a research article that described the effect of ivermectin on SARS-CoV-2 in a laboratory setting. The Antiviral Research pre-publication paper, “The FDA-approved drug ivermectin inhibits the replication of SARS-CoV-2 in vitroExternal Link Disclaimer,”  documents how SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) responded to ivermectin when exposed in a petri dish. This type of study is commonly used in the early stages of drug development. Ivermectin was not given to people or animals in this study. Additional testing is needed to determine whether ivermectin might be safe or effective to prevent or treat coronavirus or COVID-19.

https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/fda-letter-stakeholders-do-not-use-ivermectin-intended-animals-treatment-covid-19-humans

There's only small handful of countries in the world that have handled the crisis well. The remainder all need to be open to criticism and a full review to avoid repeat mistakes which cost lives and the economy so disastrously.

Those that followed the advice of WHO in the early stages are suffering badly.

3 hours ago, Srikcir said:

"strong immune response" is only half a success (apart from what this means in terms of effacy over time). The other half relates to duration of response. That can drive the total length of time testing the vaccine before release to the public. 

 

 

 

 

As far as I understand it, its actually more than half, once a trial gets into phase 3 then its three quaters of the way there. Its already proven not to give adverse side effects (first phase) and its proved to generate a strong immune response (second phase) This last phase is still ongoing with thousands of volunteers and its looking very likely it will be a success.

Join hands with Medicare co. ltd, repackage some anti viral herbs, play on words and create a new brand patent called Antavir, pocket the proceeds

8 hours ago, Traubert said:

Despite your previous statement to the contrary?

 

Thank you and farewell.

At what point did I mention I was part of Harvard Medical School?

I find making accusations that are false about me a serious matter. Signing off with farewell will not cut it I'm afraid

1 hour ago, candide said:

So what did they achieve in just 16 days?

Since I don't belong to the Harvard Medical School, you'd need to hack into their servers to reveal that info.

12 minutes ago, candide said:

I am not challenging the fact that China withold information. My point was that the genome was released on 11 January, so it was very unlikly that research could produce any  sensible result about a vaccine in only 16 days.

So either the Chinese hackers were stupid, or the WH tells BS.

As both the Chinese and the WH under Trump are proven liars, it makes sense to raise this issue, among others.

Since Covid virus was decoded on the 2nd Jan and not released officially until the 11th then its just as well your not challenging the fact that China was deliberately withholding vital information.

Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston.

As soon as the genome was published, within days his laboratory and dozens of others around the world started designing vaccines that they hoped could protect billions of people against the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

10 minutes ago, candide said:

It's incoherent!

How could these "multiple labs" decode the genome without any virus at hand. The first case identified outside China was in Thailand on Jan. 12.

Chinese officials sat on releasing the genetic map, or genome, of the deadly virus for over a week after multiple government labs had fully decoded it, not sharing details key to designing tests, drugs and vaccines. Strict controls on information and competition within the Chinese public health system were largely to blame

Health officials only released the genome after a Chinese lab published it ahead of authorities on a virology website on January 11. Even then, China stalled for at least two weeks more on giving WHO the details it needed.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/china-delayed-release-of-coronavirus-genome-findings-to-who-20200603-p54z0a.html

16 minutes ago, candide said:

Actually it's only 16 days as the genome was revealed by China on January 11 only.

Yes an absolute disgrace 

Chinese officials sat on releasing the genetic map, or genome, of the deadly virus for over a week after multiple government labs had fully decoded it

22 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I see the US has just asked China to close its consulate in Houston. Lets see what sort of retaliatory measures they take.........

Evidence being destroyed?

According to media in Houston, firefighters and police were called to the Chinese consulate building on Tuesday on reports documents were being burned.

https://www.barrons.com/news/china-says-us-ordered-closure-of-houston-consulate-01595404204?tesla=y