ourmanflint

middle east somewhere??

My dad always told me that his forties were the best time of his life: younger women were attracted to him, older women were attracted to him; he had money, physical vitality, confidence... in short, everything was working in his favor.

It's true that not all men remain physically fit and highly attractive into their forties, fifties, or beyond, but let's face it -- not all men are fit and attractive in their twenties or thirties. Some guys are lucky and don't go bald at all, while some start losing hair in their twenties. Some guys weigh the same at 45 as they did in college, some were already chubby in college.

The most attractive women usually end up with good-looking, powerful men at least ten years older than themselves because those men can offer things the youngsters haven't got yet: superior sexual experience and prowess (better believe it!), financial security, sophistication... the list goes on.

Guys in their twenties are generally very immature and not ready for long term relationships. Knowing what I know now, I have to wonder why in the world any man under 35 would even consider getting married... of course those young guys don't have the benefit of experience to understand why it's such a mistake. Those are the same guys who think a man in his forties is unattractive to younger women, I guess.

Thank you... at last! Someone who actually knows what they are talking about. I think this thread has polarised two very opposite camps, and the split is mostly one of age. Younger guys in their early twenties here as elsewhere really just don't understand women one tiny bit, they may think they do because they've had a few girlfriends, but they have no clue what women want. It is really funny and gratifying to know that.

That is reason they cannot see that a beautiful young girl would choose someone much older than them. It doesn't make sense in their tiny illogical brains that they are not the best thing since sliced bread... this is exactly why there is such a difference of opinion, because we older guys just know women so much more. At least you young whipper snappers have a lot of good things to look forward to as you get older, and as jing jing has said , you are never more attractive to women of all ages than in your late 30's and 40's.

Give it another 15 years lads and you may understand.

nonsense, if a thai girl has anything here, she has choice! There are not only 50- 60 year old men here, there are plenty of others, so for whatever reason it is a choice, her choice not yours or mine.

You can't possibly be that dense, so i have to assume you are joking...

Yes I must be that dense then... are we all to assume then that these "underage" girls are being coerced into something??

Get real... there maybe a very tiny fraction who are pressured into these things by family, but I will not believe it is the majority.

We seem to be drifting into areas in which everyone is speculating without the slightest shred of evidence...

no

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Freedom of choice is something that must be respected wether you like it or not, you have no right to castigate someone for simply doing what they feel.

In most of these cases the younger part does not really have freedom of choice , they more or less have to choose the lesser of evils.

nonsense, if a thai girl has anything here, she has choice! There are not only 50- 60 year old men here, there are plenty of others, so for whatever reason it is a choice, her choice not yours or mine.

Are we all talking about the same place here... pain in the *ss to get to or from, full of people getting their hair braided and growing beards?

What an absolute shocking dump of a place, everything is more expensive there, who said it was cheaper... the people running some of the businesses there are the rudest I've met in Thailand, I shudder everytime one of my friends stays there and I have to visit. I came to Thailand for a reason and I don't think they are there. ( and neither are they at soi nana wise *ss! ) Each to their own though!

my god there is a lot of ageist bs coming out from a lot of people I had some admiration for, now I have already stated that I personally have my own limits as to who I will date because of their age, but that is my own view. I still believe there are always exceptions, there maybe some incredibly happy wide age gap relationships, and who are we to deny them. Callling people names such as paedophile when they are dating a mature woman, yes women mature earlier than men, try telling a nineteen year old she is too immature to choose for herself who she can date and who she cannot, is really just pathetic and shows you for the kind of shallow reactionary bigoted people you really are.

There are no rules less the laws we create to govern such things, love and its facsimiles are not to be routinely controlled by bleating lambs. Freedom of choice is something that must be respected wether you like it or not, you have no right to castigate someone for simply doing what they feel. And yes maybe one day if you have daughters something similar may happen to one of yours, we are all living longer andf healthier lives, this kind of thing is in no way on the decline, get used to it.

Vanzam... from my lofty position I can look down on on pseudo scientists such as yourself and see you for what you are, and don't worry I'm not an English teacher.

I was a peasant in 'The Princess Bride' - a movie - any Canadians out there might know this film x

Really!!! A child peasant perhaps?? It's a great movie but you must have been about 6 years old! Hella cool though...

I spilt some of Gary Glitters piss on my hand when I was a lab technician ...

Classic.. tell us more!

Keep em coming I'm impressed by the overall quallity of people we have here on TV... some very dark horses indeed.

Lots of people I speak are talking about the next thing they going to do now Windows Vista is available, many have indicated that they will stick with Windows XP or even Windows 2000.

Some are looking more serious at alternatives, Linux is a good alternative but that is a story for another time.

One Operating System people seem to like is MacOs X, which normally works only on Apple computers. Now I’m also a happy Apple user, or to be honest it is more my g/f who is the Apply lover. It seems more that I’m the Apple buyer.

I have to say running the latest Mac OS X on a regular PC kicks anything Microsoft can offer for the next coming years, by the way it is also possible to run the Mac on a Linux computer as VMware is released for MS Windows and Linux computers. (Linux was probably the better choice, Linux uses less memory and resources for itself

The world is getting complicated isn't it?

For my two cents a great compromise would be to buy an intel Mac that dual boots Mac OS X and Windows XP, ( think iMac) and because of the different architecture of Mac computers, XP actually runs faster than it does on a PC. Like I said it's a weird new world. I think though that Microsoft knobbled Vista so it couldn't run on a Mac, I think they were terrified of the consequences to the Microsoft ecosystem.

Yeah what would I know, I'm just a lowly psychologist.

Funny though that many of the reference books I have don't back up your point of view, I'd better write to the authors, they are obviously wrong.

You defend my use of the word "child" which is simply a matter of opinion, yet don't dispute the clinical definition.

There is nothing wrong with what you are doing from a legal standpoint, however, your moral judgement seems to be lacking. I pity the teenager you are stealing a childhood from.

I have to agree with Tropo... VanZam you are way out of line, and any *sshole can be a psychologist, it is the lowest of the low of the sciences, if it is even a science... don't make me laugh and don't throw around your crappy credentials, I know a few psychologists and they are all quite certain it's 90% b*llocks!!

Oh my goodness, the first few posters have hit the ball over the fence - Good one !!!

I can't compete with that. My fame is two - running the Olympic Torch #1 for me and #2 was getting personal with a female rock star many years ago looking back on its trivia, but we still talk on email.

I am maybe a bit boring and I am imfamous for nothing really.

Oh Sorry for the first two in this thread "lang may yer lum reek" or Long may your chimney smoke - I understand that from my grand-dad who played for Rangers

hey hey... details... at least give us a clue who she was!! And what torch??

My claim to fame I guess is that I was the last person to talk to Jerry Garcia and found him dead when I was nightman at a alcohol and drug rehab in California on Aug. 9, 1995. My claim to infamy was everything I did that ultimately led me to rehab myself... Oh, and my Dad used to have sex with Rock Hudson in gay saunas in Los Angeles during the 80's, does that count?

I think that's a definite yes!! So he is dead then, I know there are lots of theories going round...

And TDSK... we were a long time ago Scottish name, tartan, crest etc... but we headed south a hundred years ago.

So why is it that these large age gaps aren't so prevalent in relationships between people of the same culture? It seems clear to me that the initial foundation for the majority of relationships where there are large age gaps is something other than love. Of course love may blossom from such beginnings but I suspect that feelings of 'romantic love' are much more likely from the older partner.

Unfortunately we are unlikely to get the views of many of the younger partners of these relationships.

I think they are more hidden in western culture, or you just don't hang around in the kinds of circles where much older men have very young girlfriends... there are an awful lot of them, and the same is true back there, power and/or money are present to compensate for the age difference.

I was just wondering how many of you have secret pasts and claims to fame, things you will always remember or maybe you would rather forget.

Mine, which should be appreciated by all the Scots in the house, as it has to do with Scottish history. My claim to fame is that when people walk down the Royal Mile in Edinburgh and spit in the Heart of Midlothian, as is the tradition, they do so because they are spitting on the "grave" of my long dead ancestor. In fact the whole Heart of Midlothian was put there to mark and commemorate his terrible deeds!!

Knights of columbus!!

I can't upload at the moment for some reason... I'll let you go again fella

Over to you!!!

It's Fort St. Louis in Martinique...

Nice try!!

When I was working in London about 7 years ago I literally fell in love about 3 or 4 times a day, but in my job at the time I was surrounded by hundreds of sexy women every day...

whatever anyone says I still think the most successful relationships are ones where the man is about 10 years older, as I think men being that more slow to mature need about 10 years to catch up to a womans " emotional maturity". On the whole, we men don't really come into our own until our 30's or grow up enough to have a stable relationship.

For those that have relationships with partners 20+ years younger, I can only admire your bravery. I just couldn't do it. I think 12-15 years difference is the maximum I would feel comfortable with although for some reason whatever age I reach my Gf's stay at about age 27, the magic age!!!

Once when I was at some disco in Patong, so you can see this is going to be scientifically accurate!! The DJ asked the girls in the club what they preferred? Was it " a young man with lots of power and little money" a big scream let out all across the club as girls shouted in agreement, then the guy asked "or an older man with little power and lots of moneY'

Well I tell you the roof was lifted off the club there and then... the noise was staggering, every woman and every ladyboy in the building screaming yes!!

I love science

booyackasha!!

Give the man a beer!!!

Amazingly Male is the most densely populated city on earth!!!

This is true.... Albion as it was has always been a destination for economic migrants as far back as 500 BC when migrants from eastern europe ( this would be classed as the first wave I guess ) were attracted by stories of "gold falling out of the ground". Yes Albion made its wealth from its gold.

Britain is still a draw for a massive proportion of the worlds population, we should find a way of dealing with that, one which doesn't detrimentally affect it's longer resident populus.

Manila

Not Manila...

this city is almost 4x as densely populated as Tokyo!!

OK then...

this place is the one of the worlds most densely populated cities!!

Not penang

Delhi is way north of Bangkok, this place is not north of Bangkok

do you actually think Thai women prefer younger men then??

My wife did! I'm nearly 6 months younger.

I wonder if you're the only toyboy on TV??