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11 hours ago, whiteflight said:

Are you saying that Monks don't live a good life?  A good life is one where you're healthy and still alive.

It's common knowledge that the number of deaths from Covid in every country has been under counted,

not only the direct deaths, but also the deaths from people who couldn't get treatment for other things

because hospitals and ICU beds were full, so stating some stupid figures of percentage of people who 'revovered'

has zero basis in fact.
If the sight of all ICU beds being full, and trucks being used as temporary morgues because they regular ones were full doesn't bother you, then you have no compassion.  You can live poorly and recover from that, nobody can recover from dying of Covid.

any photos of these full beds and trucks in Thailand ?

4 hours ago, WineOh said:

At the current rate of the VAX rollout (2 doses) my best estimate is that everyone in country will be fully vaccinated within two years from now.

 

So normality shall resume immediately after the last man or woman has had their shot.

What does " everyone" mean ?

are you saying every living person on Thailand will be vaccinated ?

Even the ones who, for what ever reason, cannot have it ?

And if not everyone, what happens then ?

5 hours ago, TimBKK said:

The many thousands of Thais who depend upon it for their livelihoods - you know, things like food and keeping a roof over their head.  Happy now?

You mean those who are now out of work, begging for handouts, the ones who have returned to their villages ?

The ones who, like the world over, will have to adapt and move on, find other works

But that does not change it from a dump, or make people who never want to visit it, care 

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

The place gets rammed on the weekends with Bangkok plated cars so I reckon a few come visit this "dump".

Thanks, but I'm sure even you know that Bangkok is NOT Thailand, as much as you seem to think it is

1 hour ago, Emdog said:

"wonder how many of these ended up in landfill or the oceans ?"

The same could be asked of covid dead.

yup, probably lots of them from India, but look at the good side, no funeral costs, and keeps the fish happy, even if still hungry .

wow, no Sh#t sherlock

other breaking news, road deaths may be higher than reported 

More breaking news, flu and pneumonia deaths may be higher than reported

stopped believing in my imaginary friends when I was around 3 years old

World would be a better place if others had done so 

More people die because they think their imaginary friend is better than someone else . 

Here's a sobering though for all the "save the planet" folks

between March and December last year, China apparently produced and shipped around 224.2 billion face masks around the world !

wonder how many of these ended up in landfill or the oceans ?

20 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

If only COVID was just a flu variant.

The flu does not incapacitate patients for months. The flu does not start turning up in other organs, such as heart muscle and the brain. The flu does not become more infectious, it attenuates and yearly vaccines can deal with it easily. COVID is unknown territory.

While I can understand overreaction may become tedious for some, minimizing this pandemic is not a good thought process either.

does these facts of yours apply to pneumonia too ?

which attacks the lungs and breathing, which gives long term health problems, necessitates time in ICUs with breathing equipment,  and kills many more people in Thailand than Covid ?

5 hours ago, nightfox said:

This is absolutely pointless asking people not to travel and work from without reinforcement. If they were serious about doing something that will actual help the situation they can start with cancelling all inter provincial travel like buses, trains and flights.

 

Maybe they are waiting for the numbers to hit 20,000+ cases a day before it registers in their head that Houston We Have Problem!

so no transport trucks either?

How would you stop these ?

Are the drivers tested prior to leaving and when arriving at destinations ?

Have had a few direct deliveries from Bangkok, and told no checks on route .

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

You are ignorant. 

I am a retired Expat..... I am far from 100% unaffected, As an older person I am at risk from Covid.... my life, not my livelihood. Isolating myself is miserable, I retired here to enjoy the end years of my life..... the last year has been <deleted>,  Yeah locals have it worse, but I am not unaffected.....

so you are at risk ?

Just like at risk from getting killed going to the shops, driving your car, or even from having a heart attack ?

Yet you hide from such a small risk ?

How many ex pats do you know who have died from Covid, or even been in ICU

Then how many ex do you know who have died by other causes ?

But your retired, with an income, unlike many many poor Thais in this country, who also have to suffer and isolate 

2 hours ago, peter48 said:

But the point is: if you are using the double jabs for most citizens Pfizer, Moderna or AstraZenica it massively brings down hospitalisations & deaths as in Isreal, UK, Canada, USA, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Holland, Sweden and so on. The reason being of course these vaccinations give you anti-bodies that can then fight the virus when you get it from crowded indoor spaces or family & friends. 

 

PS The reason you will see Wembly Stadium paked on Sunday for the finals of the Euros is because the vast majority will have had the vaccination - its not totally perfect but the AZ & Pfizer is returning Europe back to some  normality with masks. The paked pubs, bars etc will lead to some upsuge of the Delta Variant mainly from silly people taking risks who likely refused jab or have not had the second jab yet.

so you say the majority have double jabs, so ok ?

how many people does it take to spread this "deadly" virus ?

Is it ok to have 1,00 people in a stadium who have not had the vaccine, but its not ok for anyone to have a beer in a bar in Thailand ?

Refused jabs ? So you think its public duty to have the jab, when in reality not everyone can have it due to other reasons ? You think if you have it, everyone should also have it , and accept the risks either way ?

Maybe if the government, or the vaccine suppliers removed the clause which denies you any claim, now or in the future, maybe more people will accept it .

4 hours ago, kennw said:

Seems to me that the reluctance to implement firm restrictions is based on the perceived impact on the economy. Well, maybe it is time use some of the large foreign currency reserves. What is the sense in having a lot of "money in the bank" and then not using some of it in times of crisis. Where should it go? Pass urgent legislation to allow payment up front of urgently needed vaccines. Make payments to those people out of work and really in need. Buy testing kits and implement a massive testing program. Increase quarantine facilities and stock up on oxygen supplies.  

so how will you pay the millions of poor farmers, out of work construction workers, bar girls, shop keepers, etc, etc ?

Make them wait till the end of the month, providing they have logged into the sites, and then waited for possible pittance paid into their bank, that they then have to travel many miles to access ?

Look at the normal" people in Thailand, not the ones who live in the cities, the ones struggling to pay bills and buy food to eat, with no work, other than begging for the 200-300 baht a day farm work if lucky .

Then look how many are actually dying from this "deadly" virus in the countryside, 

How many do you know who have died, or been in ICU due to this virus, ? I ask this in our villages and nobody knows anyone, yet due t the mass media hype, are scared stiff of it .

51 minutes ago, Paul DS said:

Far too late for a lockdown etc, Covid Delta is too virulent etc, look at Australia for example.

 

The only initial remedy is mass vaccination, but that would entail the Thailand Government accepting overseas advice etc, and we all know Thailand knows "best"!

or herd immunity ?

On 7/8/2021 at 3:31 PM, Bkk Brian said:

Thought so thats why I responded to your inaccurate post:

 

"ha ha ha curfew ? Lockdown ? Prohibition ?

maybe where you live, but the rest of Thailand carried on as near as normal

Just liken they will if they impose it again"

thanks, but why keep me waiting so long ?

Your obviously much more intelligent than me, so would appreciate it if you could explain your simple post ?

Would be nice to see what part is inaccurate, , unless maybe you live in the southern tourist area ?

18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Lockdowns have proven to be effective in reducing the spread of the virus. 

 

Your friends at the internet Lie Factory have not given you correct information. 

not working around where i live is it ?

3 minutes ago, Danderman123 said:

Nope. 

 

Face masks can stop some transmission of the virus. Your internet friends are lying to you about the efficacy of face masks. 

pity it only stops some !

look inside any food hall, restaurant and see how many are wearing masks, so makes them rather pointless. Unless you think you cant get covid while eating or heaven forbid will die if you dare to drink beer in a bar 

7 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Various comments by authorities regarding 'possible lockdowns' is just about getting folks head around the fact that lockdown is coming.

Hopefully it will include holiday travel out of Bangkok.

Is this the same lockdowns that we had last year ? The ones that most Thias, and ex pats just ignored ?

Had road checkpoints all over, but always next to a slip or side road, so just go round.

No beer, no worries, just go out early morning to back door to stock up 

Had no problems riding bike or car to surrounding towns to go shopping/drinking 

16 hours ago, Nickelbeer said:

Agent is always the best option. No stupid "seasoning" requirements. Just buy yourself an extension for around five hundred dollars. Yes, it's grossly overpriced but works like a charm for most of us. Sooner or later, they will probably change the rules to force out most of us. Hopefully, the Covid madness will subside and we will have the option of moving to Cambodia or the Philippines. I expect nothing but more problems from Thai Immigration. Farangs are not wanted or needed in their rose-colored vision of what Thailand should be.

which is why i now use an agent in Pattaya, more expensive, but much easier, Drop off one day, pick up next day, plus an excuse for a bit of a holiday too. Really upsets them when i go back to local office for my 90 day, but tough !

19 hours ago, tonray said:

You were 1 day late with your application ? or your seasoning was only 1 day short of 3 months ?

my seasoning was i day short of 3 months, not 2 months, but she refused to accept the paper i put in front of her showing 2 months seasoning , so told to come back and pay fine , otherwise no visa .

And people on here say i should treat them with respect ?