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Cant help you with a contact, but thats a heck of a charge

I got 2 truckloads of top soil for my garden when laying new lawn, price was 280 baht a load !

2 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

Clearly changing a single drink does not change the chance of infection. So let’s get over that point and move on.

 

the second issue to move past is the one that restaurants don’t practice social distancing anyway. Well, they should. And the rule should be enforced. Just because people break one rule does not justify getting rid of all rules.

 

as has been pointed out, people who have more than a single drink behave differently. Whilst you may innocently have a beer or two with a meal, there are those who will treat the restaurant as though it were a bar, get drunk and ignore social distancing.

 

and then there is the point that I made. Authorities know from experience in the early lockdown that bars who are desperate for any kind of income, will be a bar with all the issues that implies vis a vis social distancing, but circumvent the rules by offering finger food or some snacks.

 

I am not saying that the rule barring restaurants from serving alcohol is right, but you asked why they can’t and these are some of the reasons. 
 

feel free to say they are clap trap, they aren’t my rules and I have no axe to grind either way. But you asked for an explanation and you got one.

Thanks 

But unless you fully enforce things like social distancing, which would be very difficult and costly to both police and owners

But we all know social distancing is just nice words that Thais ignore, just go to any supermarket, Makro, restaurant, etc and see how they distance , so to use this as a reason, is a bit futile 

So the word that keep springing up as a reason, is social distancing, nothing else

Even though we have almost no social distancing in the majority of buildings , which people seem to accept, 

Just now, Pattaya Spotter said:

I was giving you a chance to impress with your thinking skills...unfortunately you didn't impress. What is the effect on most people after 3-4 beers or glasses of wine in a restaurant, bar, or nightclub setting vs. a similar amount of Coke?

sorry . still no answer from you , maybe your thinking skill need improving too

i will repeat the very difficult question for your

how will having fun, laughing, joking, and even arguing, increase your chances of catching the virus, if the virus is not present in the venue

and if it is present, how will sitting quietly with a soft drink, prevent you from catching the virus ?

either way, your sitting without a mask, in groups close together , talking and laughing, so how does this increase, or prevent catching the virus ?

Any yanks here in Thailand died from this Covid yet ?

4 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

Don't care about what compared to what I am just saying you said he said 4000 deaths a day thailand. He did not.

ok my bad

i read it, but didnt think he was so silly to use the "cases" instead of actual death , which made his post rather pointless

40 minutes ago, RichardColeman said:

Other 25% must have an extraordinary low IQ

if not before then maybe they will after the vaccine effects them !

28 minutes ago, Dazinoz said:

Where did he say that? I read he said Thailand has over 4000 CASES a day, not deaths. Although I don't agree where he said covid deaths now outnumber roads deaths,

so why state the cases, when he is quoting the death count. Why not give us the true death figures from the virus compared to road deaths 

The number of cases does not correlate to the number of deaths from the virus

4 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

I think the issue may be that if restaurants can serve alcohol, suddenly bars become “restaurants” with minimal food offerings, but plenty of alcohol, which then causes a lack of social distancing.

Yes, if only if the restaurant enforces social distancing, which the majority out of the tourist area do not 

but if the restaurant already enforces social distancing, how will the change in drinks cause more deaths and infections ?

and if it does not enforce social distancing, how will the change of drinks cause more deaths and infections ?

22 minutes ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

You have it turned around...the virus doesn't act differently...people do. Amazing over a year into the pandemic you still apparently don't understand this.

But you still have not answered the question

No matter what people do in the bar/restaurant, how will drinking beer instead of coke, increase the chances of catching the virus 

If the infection is there in the venue, will sitting in a group drinking coke, instead of beer reduce the chances of catching it ?

Amazing, still not able to answer other than stating people act differently

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Restaurants in BKK at least can only have 25% seating arrangements. So a table meant for 4 can only have 1 person. So people are spread out that does not happen in bars. You really don't WANT to get it.

Thanks, not been in Bangkok for a few months

BUT, Bangkok is not Thailand, so this does not apply to the majority of bars and restaurants in Thailand, where social distancing is certainly not followed

Why don't i want to get it, are you saying people like me will die or suffer great harm from this "deadly" virus, or will i be like the possibly millions of others who catch it and suffer a mild flu effect for a few days ?

3 minutes ago, robblok said:

Sorry but bars are far worse then any restaurants. Restaurants have to do social distancing and you might catch a few not doing it but in bars it impossible. In short your grabbing at straws. Its far easier to police restaurants then bars in restaurants they can see it right away in bars they cannot.

 

If their are no infected nobody will get it duh...  but how do you know nobody has it.

 

As i said before people who drink alcohol are more likely to break social distancing rules then people who drink coke. So the person drinking coke would stay further away keep his mask up more the person on the hard drug alcohol would not care about a thing and be more likely to get it.

 

You do remember that this wave started in a BAR in Thong Lor. Kinda proves the point.

 

So again all over the world they close bars as the infection risk is higher but you think that governments all over the world do this just for fun ? You think that you with your incoherent reasoning knows better then all those people in governments ? You think they don't care that people are losing jobs. Ok that is one way to look at it.. looking at it as a victim because you NEED your drink.

 

 

 

 

Im confused

Where do you live ? Where do you eat out ?

Social distancing is a nice word, that very few Thais seem to follow or even understand

So to use this as an excuse is very feeble, or rather stupid

? How is it higher than the average food stall and buffet restaurant?

If the venue , whatever type it is, has infected people inside, then there is a chance of catching it, but if no infected person inside, then zero chance of catching, even if drunk and dancing on the tables !

16 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

I couldbe wrong but I think the premis was more people are likely to go and gather etc with alchohol present than they would with soft drinks. Just a theory.

Yup, but is your theory correct, when comparing the number of people, Thais and ex pats, who congregate  in restaurants each day,,  Just go out on any evening and see how many Thais are sat eating and talking in large numbers , whether beer or not is present

So surely, it more a case of if someone in these crowds have the infection, it will be passed on, not matter what they drink

11 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

People drinking Coke dont tend to think they can sing, dance, are attractive to the opposite sex, hug each other etc.

I dont know that people have 6-8 cokes and sit around for hours telling stories and arguing.

Correct

Don't know that people drinking 6 or 8 beers can catch the virus too, 

But most people sit for hours eating, talking , all without masks, so does singing and dancing mean the virus will get you, even though the virus is not present on anybody in that bar/restaurant ?

And if it is present, how will sitting quietly drinking coke, stop the spread of this : deadly: virus ?

Just now, robblok said:

Too bad that the members don't have a clue or pretend not to know why they banned alcohol. I really think that a large portion of the members are addicted to alcohol and take any opportunity to complain about the fact that its not available.

 

Ill give you the reason one more time, people who drink lose inhibitions and don't follow the social distancing rules. That does not happen when your drinking coke, unless you add alcohol. Alcohol is a social lubricant a hard drug it really makes people behave different and not in a good way. 

 

Combine that in a indoor bar and you got a recipe for covid spread. They came to the conclusion to close bars in almost all countries in the world so perhaps its time to review your opinion. This is not a Thai thing its a logics thing.

Thanks

Now i will ask one more time

So you say the restaurants in Thailand all adhere to social distancing ?, but bars do not ? Not sure what or where you go, but place is see and visit do not do social distancing, other than government buildings 

So if no body has the covid infection in the bar or restaurant, how does drinking beer cause them to be infected ?

If there is someone infected in the bar/restaurant, how will drinking coke only, prevent them from catching it 

Just now, starky said:

Ah yes the comparing deaths to deaths argument...im sympathetic to that argument even used it myself ...oh but 77 die on the roads on Thailand a day...but now the deaths from covid outnumber that and we have nearly 4000 cases a day meanwhile India has so many cases and so many deaths every day with no end in sight so the argument holds very little water until we are out the other side ....

Confused 

You say we have nearly 4,000 deaths a day from Covid, in Thailand ?

India again, a different country, different lifestyle different culture, so no comparison is there ?

Do you see dead bodied floating down the Mekon, How many people per toilet in Thailand, compared to India ?

How many people living in slum conditions, with no fresh water and toilet factifies . compared to Thailand 

Think i will pass for this registration, Maybe look again in about 6 - 12 months

Lets see how it works out for the other guinea pigs first 

1 hour ago, starky said:

Welcome to TVF......there's only like a million threads referencing alcohol, the service of, hours you can buy it, what's the cheapest, why can't I buy it, can I on this day?, yadda yadda ad nauseum. It's not just the be all and end all of the pandemic it's the be all and end all of their very existence apparently. 

Sad isn't it, they are starting to sound like these doomsayer talking about Covid and fanciful numbers that mean little, but give them a feeling of superiority to keep mentioning , while ignoring the thousands of deaths from other causes 

3 hours ago, Danderman123 said:

Let's talk about the impact of Songkran again, shall we? 

ahh Songkran ?

The one that people on here said, "give a few weeks and see the numbers rise to the thousands" :?

That didnt work out either, did it

Still only around 2 a day dying from possibly Covid, while hundreds die from other causes 

1 hour ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

My thoughts exactly...but it was a Covid thread so...

still waiting for someone to explain properly how drinking coke in a restaurant is supposed to be safe, yet change the coke to a beer, and suddenly it becomes dangerous ?

Surely, if someone in the restaurant is infected , then its immaterial what you eat or drink ?

6 hours ago, Pattaya Spotter said:

Amazing the serving of alcohol ???? is the be all and end all of so many member's pandemic loss.

even more amazing is how much more deadly, drinking beer is, compared to drinking coke !

Such a "deadly" virus obviously knows the difference and acts accordingly,

48 minutes ago, farmerjo said:

You can buy the axle and wheels complete ready to go in most ag shops.

Then it's a matter of finding the correct size and length U bolts to attach it to your frame.

Most of the DIY  shops have U bolts for sale.

 

Me being thick, but what is an AG shop ?

have seen the U bolts in Thai Watsadu 

4 hours ago, IsaanAussie said:

I have a K-Lion 150cc ATV same as the model in the picture below. They are sold here in Thailand as are the hitch to fit and a trailer. I priced them at 15K for the trailer and about 2K for the hitch. Not cheap but no hassles.

 

Thanks Isaan

Have got the hitch and tow ball with the quad, have ordered a ball coupling from Lazada

Have made the trailer frame, very similar to your in the picture, but just need to attach some decent wheels 

On 5/27/2021 at 9:38 PM, Meat Pie 47 said:

I also made the tow bar and all electrical wiring and licensing

have decided to make my own, using 50mm angle iron , much easier to weld than box section ( for me)

No problem making the frame and drawbar, but

How did you make and fit the wheels to the underside ?

dont need brakes or lighting, just need something that the wheels wont fall off, lol

Smaller wheels would be ideal, rather than the  bike wheels that seems to be the norm here

Any advice would be much appreciated

Thanks 

3 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I haven't got the time, I will explain it to the cat. 

That sounds about right for people such as yourselves

im sure the cat will believe you 

1 minute ago, Bkk Brian said:

Pathetic. You think a low paid Thai has 200k in his back pocket as insurance incase he gets locked up for something he did not do

Well, that would be a bummer if not, just like for anybody else

Anyone got th number of Covid deaths in these prisons, or is it all just numbers ?