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33 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

If only people could go to a bar and be Socially Responsible in these Covid times.

But they cannot

All starts well, but after the 3rd Beer, the Guard drops, as do the Inhibitions, along with any reasonable behavior ( not for all, but for many ), and that is how the Covid spreads.

Thats why the bars are closed

still don't understand how the covid will spread, just because they are enjoying themselves

Its either in the bar already, or its not, so if you sit eating and drinking soft drinks nice and quiet, it will still spread it its already in the room

Having a laugh and more noise and messing about cannot increase the chances of catching it, if it is not already in the room 

And don't mention social distancing , that's in your dreams if you think that applies to any bar or restaurant 

10 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

The sheer stupidity and arrogance of these Hi-So,s is beyond belief.

Covid - The sequel.

Why ?

were any of them tested positive with the virus ?

If not, how could they spread the infection ?

If they were not drinking beer, would that have made it safer ?

I read somewhere that Thai nationals returning to Thailand will have to pay for quarantine after the 1st July

BUT, if they fly in with Thai Airways, then its free 

wonder how many of these bad people have tested positive for the virus, and how many have ended up in hospital ?

because , as everyone on here knows, drinking beer while sitting with other people will kill you 

23 hours ago, placeholder said:

False. Influenza viruses are not coronaviruses. Not even close.

In the United States, common causes of viral pneumonia are influenza, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). A common cause of bacterial pneumonia is Streptococcus pneumoniae (pneumococcus).

1 hour ago, RobMuir said:

Less than 800 per day.

 

You get what you pay for in my experience.

rate for our villages is 300 baht a day, can be as little as 250 baht sometimes

don't kill themselves, but often steady workers

Just give them the occasional small whiskey or beer at the end of the day

58 minutes ago, Steve Vincent said:

Anybody who may be concerned with the vaccines and their adverse reactions can keep up to date with latest reports ! Coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk 

 

had my first vaccine back in March Astra Zeneca ‘ few aches and pains afterwards and chills lasting several days - booked in for 2nd jab this coming Monday - seems by reports I’ve read adverse effects have been much less reported after having 2nd jab ~ was against having the vaccine but without it i won’t be able travel,. Fingers crossed as missing my family in ubon 

Hope everything is ok for you, and you get back here to your family safely

1 hour ago, chalawaan said:

Nobody is forcing you -yet.  Most of us are quite fine that the world seems to have found a "cure for stupid", and in a delicious paradox, that cure for stupid appears to be ever-mutating Covid, dont take the vax? Then be prepared to deal with the endless list of post Covid complications, and I don't worry about the "death rate" another red herring the anti-vaxxers are obsessed with. It is quality of life youre gambling with. If one is dead, ones problems are over, I've had a good life, and I've made my peace anyhow.

 

By all means don't take the vaccine, but I will cheer as security throw you out of bars, restaurants, airports, and shops, when the time comes to produce your vax proof, or leave the building!

 

"Freedom", will soon, by human necessity, be reserved for people who understand it's true value -and the art of compromise. 

 

We didn't hear you "freedom lovers" whine when 9/11 turned us all into terrorist suspects at airports these last 20 years! Now that, I do have a problem with. That dehumanizing security theatre should have been sorted out with biometrics and frequent flyer profiling years ago. 

Thanks, but I'm sure i wont have a problem with the bars and restaurants, and as for the "passport", I'm sure i can find a perfectly good copy if needed 

Endless complications ? So how many on here have got "Endless complications" from this Covid ? Its been 16 months now, how many expats on here have died or suffered from this deadly virus 

Ahh the red herring death rate, you mean the one that is many many more times likely to kill you ?

That magic word that keeps popping up, "Freedom " and Return to normality , while still having to wear face nappies, be constantly tested , to social distance, ( but only when its convenient ) , but I'm sure you will feel smug while still spreading the infection to others even after the vaccine

Didn't hear people whine about airport security, perhaps you should get a hearing aid .? People complained then, and still complain about the often silly security rules. And if you've ever worked at airports, you would know just how stupid they really are 

7 minutes ago, kwilco said:

A profoundly inaccurate presumption

 

the ignorance amongst some expats seems boundless

care to show us your superior knowledge and tell us how many ex pats in Thailand have died from this "deadly" Covid ?

{lease show us how this is a profoundly inaccurate assumption ?

But i have got to agree with your last sentence, so much fear, so much hype,   

4 hours ago, mommysboy said:

I think it's fair to say that all the vaccines are not as safe as we would like them to be.  With the vector vaccines the major issue is more obvious and easily defined, but the problem is also there in equal measure for the mRNA vaccines too, only more diffuse.  There is no point holding out for the 'good one' because it does not exist yet. Imo, regardless of the type we are possibly looking at 50 very serious adverse effects and perhaps 1 or 2 deaths per million among people who are truly fit and healthy (note: not many people are). 

 

If you are relatively young, you may want to consider the possibility of not having the vaccine at all regardless of type.  If you are somewhat less than fit and healthy or over 60, then there is at at least cast iron evidence that any adverse effects are hugely outweighed by the benefits where the AZ vaccine is considered. The risk of serious blood clotting in old people is very, very low and may not differ from the general population.  Generally, I would say over 60's (unless frail) should just get vaccinated with whatever is available.

 

 

so over 60s should run the risk and get the jab ?

and how many 0ver 60s ex pats in Thailand have died from Covid so far ?

1 hour ago, Deerculler said:

Some birth control pills can cause blood clotting.

No one on here is saying anything about that.

 Get the jab and stop all the the stupid talk.

but nobody is forcing you to take the birth pill, unlike the so called miracle vaccine 

9 hours ago, clivebaxter said:

People die every day, so will after having a jab that has not been the cause, probably so in this case

yup, people die every day in Thailand, in the thousands i guess , but so very very few from the Covid virus 

Which cause  are you most likely to die from , and I'm guessing its certainly not the virus. In fact , for most old ex pats, probably just as likely to die from the vaccine as the virus 

2 hours ago, brucec64 said:

It's been over a year now, and the same question has been asked and answered many, many times. If you still can't understand it,  then it's probably beyond your capability to grasp it.

I'm guessing you cannot give a rational answer either  ?

Maybe I'm thinking logically, unlike many of the people on here who believe everything they read ? 

Care to show me where i can find these so called answers ?

8 hours ago, Crusader said:

Once again, everyone is being tarred with the same brush...because of the small minority who have a beer or two then act like complete dorks - us resposible chaps are not permitted to do something we have been doing since way back when.

yup

but still waiting for someone to explain how being a dork, increases the chances of dying from the :deadly" virus. Does acting silly, singing or dancing make it more likely, while sitting quietly does not ?

If so how does this work ? Either the virus is already there, in which case anyone could catch it, or it is not, in which case nobody will catch it, beer or no beer

4 hours ago, ricardofel said:

As you can see the planes are loaded with tourists! Austrian Airlines 777 with 10 passengers in economy! Get ready Phuket!!!!!

Was like this when we flew back last year from the UK,  the night they started the lockdown

Great service from staff, and plenty of room to sleep

only another 66 million to go then, or 130 million if 2 shots needed 

So far so good !

9 minutes ago, the green light said:

IF you want a safe vaccine.. then you need to pay money at a private hospital and  you might wait a little too

 

Thai expectation is that farangs living in thailand have money to spend on liquor food and girls.. that is why they are in Thailand.    so how much a dent will it make to the farang budget  to pay  Bht 3k  for the vaccines.

 

go for it and spend your money and your will be safe

 

You mean spend it on the food, liquor and girls,? . Probably more chance of dying doing this than dying from the Covid ?

10 hours ago, sungod said:

 

With nothing else available it seems, I would imagine the chance of catching Covid and the possibility of severe illness or even death I suppose?

care to give us the odds on catching and being seriously ill or dying from the Covid, here in Thailand ?

Then lets compare them dying on the toilet, dying while travelling to the shops, or dying from heart attack ?

4 minutes ago, riparian said:

 

National Parks?

 

Bars ?

Nice ladies ????

6 minutes ago, Jeffr2 said:

The WHO isn't corrupt.  They didn't tell any lies, just repeated what China told them.  Not much else they could do.  But yes, they didn't handle that very well.

didnt they say the vaccines in the Uk were fully tested and safe ? The same ones that are causing blood clots and other disorders ?

The same vaccines that are still in trial stage till 23 ? 

The same vaccines that they are paying guinea pigs to take , pregnant women and children ?

The same organisation who, while they may not give outright lies, are very wary about given any truths