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5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

For your chain driven bike maybe but I know you well enough for you to know what is said, a bigger cc proper motorbike would be quicker than a scoot.  

just curious what speed people with  big  bikes ride at ?

I ride the old man x max, and dont see too many big bikes going past me, although they are more than able to

Do you go mad, riding at 150-200kph on normal roads ?

Just now, VocalNeal said:

 

8 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Top box, back pack, Tank bag.

yup, as paid extras

but so can big scoots, get even more in then 

5 hours ago, papa al said:

Ya ya ya.

Congrats.

Just sayin the Ninja300 is faster & quicker than Forza300.

Try to keep up with the discussion.

 

But who asked about Ninjas >? What has that got to do with Scoots ?

Do read the posts first and see what it is about , maybe you could then keep up 

2 hours ago, pattjock said:

I thought zebra crossings were where motorbikes had to stop waiting for green light.

 

Spend the money on red light cameras and increase the fine for crossing the wide white line before a green light. At the moment it's a 500Baht fine running a red light, this is ridiculous. If you run a red light you could kill someone. If you smoke on the beach you could annoy some people could be fined 100,000 Baht!!!

 

Every time the light changes in a crossing there is about 5 seconds where traffic is going everywhere, even if there is a police box at the crossing. I'm sure the officer is keeping an eye on the situation and not just not sleeping in the air conditioned comfort.

does anyone pay these fines ?

maybe better if police stand and issue fines, rather than through post 

12 hours ago, piston broke said:

I literally spat my coffee out laughing ! - a "bathtub" X Max 300 can leave a Honda 500 behind on the twisties ....

 

You're either Barry Sheene re-incarnated, or they're riding like a bunch of nancy's.....

 

I've never seen the attraction of the forza / x max - too big for the city, compared to say an ADV150,  and out on the open road sterile compare to a geared bike .....

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Ha ha ha 

ADV 150 , ladies bike !

14 hours ago, papa al said:

 

Kawasaki Ninja 300 - 29HP; 165kg dry/175 wet

X max, 2 helmet lockable compartment 

Kawasaki ???

Room for a least a couple of shopping bags when wearing helmets

Kawasaki ??

37 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

What 500 's are they, my friend has a Honda 500x and if you thrash it, it goes well. 

 

With my friends, they go well on the straights, but they seem much more cautious

than me in corners, especially the very tight ones, but then, i am a crazy old fart !

Think they are Rebels ?

12 hours ago, piston broke said:

some of the bathtub gang are deluding themselves ........

 

My ADV150 would show one a clean pair of heels round town ......

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and on the main roads ??

23 minutes ago, Henryford said:

I agree, could never see the point in them. Too big for around town but not suited to touring/long distance.

not sure what you mean about touring or long distance ?

Often do 3-400k rides with no bother 

Usually only do one or 2 nights away, but that's through choice, not the bike

No good for town ? Just like any big bike, you can either filter through or you wait till clear, maybe you prefer a Wave / Although it is much more suited to running around towns

1 hour ago, kimamey said:

I don't know where you're figures are coming from (has flu surged?) but flu numbers would be expected to be lower at this time of year but will increase in the winter as will covid most likely.

 

It's restricted on age and vulnerability grounds and not everyone takes up the offer but there's been a yearly flu vaccination programme in the UK for years. I get one now based on age but due to my first wife's increased vulnerability because of multiple sclerosis I was having them about 20 years ago. It's really a case of trying to reduce deaths whatever the number. The problem with covid isn't so much the mortality rate as such but the transmissibility which spreads it to so many people.

 

I've just looked for some figures on infections and found this.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/weekly-national-flu-and-covid-19-surveillance-reports-published

 

Flu cases do seem to be increasing but covid still seems worse. 

W/Ending June 11 2021

covid deaths  84

flu/pneumonia deaths   1,163 

as reported by many newspapers in Uk,  Evening Standard, Telegraph, Times, Mirror

Yes, would have expected flu deaths/cases to be very low, due to the time of year, and the restrictions 

If this continues during the summer, will not be good come the winter months 

But its a similar case in Thailand, even with restrictions, flu deaths still exceed covid deaths 

Just now, Kwasaki said:

Yours friends riding on 500s can't be experience riders thats all would say.

Well, i didn't want to say that to their face

They keep talking about their bikes, but seem to spend more time polishing than riding 

1 minute ago, kimamey said:

If you're looking for a complete stop of transmission, infection, hospitalisation or death then you're wasting your time. The goal is to reduce all of those and in the case of transmission the 'R' number. The less it's transmitted the fewer people have it and so the less it's transmitted and so on. This also as far as I know reduces the chances of mutations and therefore the chances of a vaccine resistant one.

 

A plane may not be the worst place to be if sufficient precautions are taken such as mask wearing and distancing. The cleaning on a plane should be pretty good and you have a defined and controlled number of people using the plane plus the ventilation is pretty good.

you were doing really good till you mentioned the plane

mask wearing when eating food ?

do they do social distancing on the airport bus  taking you to the plane /

social distancing  ? On a plane ?

and it only take one to transmit the virus to many

But i see your point 

It seems the real reason is to prevent overload on hospitals, spread out the number of sick and dying , which is most likely to continue for many years, just like flu 

6 minutes ago, kimamey said:

I'm not sure which figures you're using but you need to look at them in context.

 

I don't know the exact numbers but the number of covid deaths is certainly less than the number of deaths from flu that we would expect during the winter months although of course covid deaths might increase by then anyway. The important point is that covid deaths have reduced not only due to vaccination but because of mask wearing, social distancing and the fact there are places we can't go that might cause more infection. Once we stop those precautions the numbers may go up and they certainly would if we didn't vaccinate as much as we are doing. Also flu and resulting deaths were down last year I believe due to the precautions taken to stop the spread of covid. That has made it more likely that flu will be worse than last year due to people not building up immunity from last winter. It's difficult at the moment to compare figures for flu and covid.

but in the UK its summer time, so not really the time for many flu problems, yet they have surged way beyond Covid

Will be interesting to see what happens in the winter months

Same as in Thailand, many thousands die from the flu and pneumonia each year normally, but greatly reduced due to the restrictions , yet even with the reductions, still more die than from Covid, yet it very rarely gets a mention, or any sort of mass vaccine project, 

2 minutes ago, kimamey said:

There is still a lot of research going on with all aspects of the virus and the effectiveness of vaccines but there have been early results from some studies. They suggest that Pfizer and AstraZeneca reduce transmission by 40 - 60%. That's the reason for having the vaccine regardless of how healthy you are.

Thanks, so possibly reduce transmissions , but not stop them . And Sinovac ? 

So on a plane of 200 people, that a lot of potential transmissions from so called "safe" people

On 7/15/2021 at 2:58 PM, Tuvoc said:

In theory my understanding is that the COVID extensions were originally for a situation where you were "trapped" in Thailand and couldn't return home more or less. So "emergency" extensions in effect. That doesn't really apply now for most countries. So it doesn't surprise me at all that they are now being refused. But as noted, an agent could be the answer.

can you fly home now, without the 2 vaccines ?

6 hours ago, abrahamzvi said:

The vaccines are the only remedy we have and anyone stating that the vaccines are "garbage" (your word) is not only risking his/her life, but endangers also other lives!!!!

risking his life, possibly, although the risks are small

Risking other lives ? How?

8 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I hope so, too. But 'opening up' costs us money, doesn't create jobs, support businesses, or make money in any meaningful way.

 

Time for us to move away from being so tourism-reliant (though only 12% of GDP) and develop alternative revenue streams such as organic exports.

 

We should NOT follow the mistakes of other countries' openings. We're in the midst of a disaster. What's wrong with wait-and-see?

maybe because millions of people are struggling to survive in Thailand

Even to put food on the table

While you, with your gauranteed income, are wanting this to continue , to see so many live ruined, businesses closed food queues ?

9 hours ago, Neeranam said:

They catch it on the way here. 

so why the insistence on double vaccines before flying ?

11 hours ago, no deal said:

yes but there is no vaccin i paye 3500 tb for my thai wife to get a moderna vaccin ,because the chines vaccin is not good, she don't know when she is going to get maybe by the end of the year...and people are going to die!

yup, many people will die

But the vast majority will not be from Covid

12 hours ago, nkg said:

 

Well done. Spend enough time listening to idiots, you get to join their club.

well he is listening to people on this site , one he joined !

12 hours ago, smedly said:

there is only one or two that have failed a test on arrival the rest have failed tests after having been here for many days - I have asked the question many times - if they didn't bring it with them where did they get infected - very likely in Phuket when mixing with the locals - there is no other explanation, the Phuket administration will not want to publish this for obvious reasons - exposing the truth would raise some very serious questions about community infection in Phuket

 

we can however read between the lines with certain actions being implimented recenty - like school closures and recent very strict controls on entry over land with the army involved - in my opinion they have a very serious problem that they are hiding - COVID is rampant in Phuket

its maybe rampant in Phuket, but how many are actually hospitalised with it, how many in ICUs or have died ?

We hear so much about infections but most seem to be carrying on as normal, until tested, who then are carted off either into hospitals or hotels for isolation

But they have been vaccinated, so why do this, if as you say, the local pass on the infection . The vaccinated will, hopefully hardly even notice, while the locals can continue to infect everyone around them

12 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

The vaccines do not stop you from becoming infected, they are designed to lessen the impact and the chance of being seriously infected with the disease and hospitalized, much like the flu vaccine does for those that take it every year.

Yup, but does not stop the spreading of the infection to others

It reduces your chance of getting really sick or dying

But the majority of healthy people ( 97% ? ) will, if catching the virus only suffer mild effects , so unless your one of the unhealthy people, why bother too much about having the vaccine ?

12 hours ago, sezze said:

No they aren't , is a alcohol analyzer a bad test since it detects right now if you got alcohol in your blood and not in 1h ? Or also in very rare cases detect fake alcohol due to some people creating aceton in their bloodstream at some moments ? It doesn't make the test bad , it is a test at a certain moment.

About the vaccines , results of it are shown right now in Europe , with heavy rising numbers but nearly no hospital admissions or deaths . HUUUGE change from before , since now the infection number is nothing more then that . Still a significant number is not fully protected and some refused vaccination , so there is still a risk of getting bad again , but so far , the numbers are not leading at all to much more hospital visits , so it is no problem . Vaccines saved many lives in the past , and is doing it right now also .

while in the UK, deaths from flu and Pneumonia are over 10 times the number of Covid deaths 

Pity they cant get the  magic" vaccine for the flu like they seem to do for Covid, we hope 

13 hours ago, sezze said:

A test is a momentum . So 72h leaves 3d window of infection positive . Many people might see family or friends in the days before travel , this creates a good chance of being infected since then they do what you should avoid aka meeting other people .

so it really makes the test a bit pointless if one has a few days to go shopping, drinking, partying, football matches, etc, before flying 

12 minutes ago, toofarnorth said:

I too have a Forza and love it , No chains to adjust/oil , press the button and go.  On my usual run out to the hills Honda Waves sometimes try it on but even if they keep up the riders seem to tire quickly and have to stop by the roadside for a rest.

I have an X max 300, bit like a Forza

simple to ride, no bother cruising at 120, and leaves most cars and bike behind at the lights

Going through the twisty bits in the hills, find myself leaving friends on Honda 500s behind, due to the twist and go, instead of constantly changing gears 

As far as idiots on the waves and clicks, not many go past, but i have no problem letting them go, . They might be stupid, but they know i could blow them off if i wanted to