mistral53

BYD Santa visits in some part of the world........

So there is this electric car company worth more than all other car companies combined, and yet, on some of their models having produced them for several years, they still cant manage to reliably put suspensions together in a way that they stay together.....? Come-on Musk, pull your head out of his old ass and spend some time building cars in a way that does not embarrass even the most fervent fan-boy, not to mention this has the potential for great harm to the car owner and the public at large.

5 years ago, the Japanese manufacturers had Thailand carved up amongst themselves. Fast forward and the auto world is upside down

We all can speculate about the EVO platform making it to Thailand - my take is, prices will go up in two steps: First the Dec 10 discount will disappear, then a few months later the EVO will be introduced and the price hike will be justified by the new platform. Of course it can also go the other way, BYD has such brilliant and inscrutable marketing, they could very well claim the EVO platform is cheaper to produce (new blade battery and 12 in 1 controllers could very well be) - and lower prices again. In conclusion - since nothing in China takes 3 years to develop, I fully expect the EVO to arrive in less than 6 months.

In case you have 1 phase now, be very sure you're better of with a 3 phase system - e.g. if you want to occasionally use VTL, it will be much easier to get whole house power with a single phase system........ that will not be possible with 3 phases.

The real question is - how long will it take for BYD to bring in the 3.0 Evo version? and how much will they push prices up once that hits the show rooms........ I am tempted for this discount, but the version they sell is giving me pause.

Very interesting numbers........ e.g. Denza with just one model, they hit a gold mine, harvesting in a very lucrative segment. It was in fact one of the very busy corners at the BYD booth. For me - to again look at the Tesla's on display, which by any account is a tech powerhouse, completely fell on their face with the stripped down IKEA style interiors compared to the Chinese competitors, so sad.

I don't think so.......back on Nov 14, the update was to V1.3.0..........and a few days later, they downgraded back to V1.2.2 I think it was because of the app not allowing cabin per-conditioning anymore, they downgraded again.

BYD calls it 800V when they refer to the 'e-platform 3.0' - hence my comment. Way back when, the 'e-platform 3.0' was announced, they called it 800V - it's not my invention. I think the confusion is about the meaning of 800V - this simply denotes the max. voltage of the DC charger. Only 800V capable chargers will give the max. benefits of e.g. a Seal battery pack. Older chargers have lower max. voltages and will not be able to pump a car with as many electrons.......remember P=V*I https://insideevs.com/news/502427/byd-eplatform3-ea1-x-dream/

The present generation Seal sold in Thailand is 800V platform (shows around 630V) so I seriously doubt that the SL 7 is 400 to 500V. But of course 400V + is the correct answer...........that covers Voltage up to infinity

Case in point....... it's too tempting! The discussion in the comments proves the point.

I would wager a a bottle of VSOP that the insurance underwriters will stop shortly to issue 1.2M coverage for a one year old car, with the new car price at 1.2M.

These prices are insane.......... they set the price war for the show on hyper-drive! Question is - what will they pay for trade-ins? Could be tempting to upgrade to the Sealion 7 if they sharpen their pencil.......

It's not only the car 'apparently' (still no official confirmation) comes on the 3.0 and not the EVO platform, it is also de-contented in other ways, the number of proximity sensors in the front is another obvious one. In Europe they also get a version with an even bigger battery. BTW - it is an 800V architecture, i.e. the battery is well over 600V, which falls into the 800V group. Problem is, the majority of DC chargers in Thailand cant pump even 150 kW, so does it matter......? BYD always had a strange marketing approach, but hey......... who is complaining, they sell like hotcakes!

They pretty much threw everything and the kitchen sink at it, or as one commenter succinctly asked: 'Autocar surely wouldn't deliberately give a negative review because it's Chinese. I'd rather hear from owners of the car.' https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/byd/sealion-7 Case in point: ......'and there’s a useful 58-litre frunk that’s slightly fiddly to access.' Are they really that daft in the UK?

Has anybody heard that this will be rolled out in Thailand as well? This was announced to European customers, m/c translated The new interval is 2 years or 30,000 km 'BYD makes possession of a car more affordable with longer service intervals. From 1 November 2024, BYD extends the service gap for all electrical models. The new interval is 2 years or 30,000 km, compared to 1 year or 20,000 km previously. This translates into reduced operating costs for car owners. This change introduces longer service intervals for all BYD electric models sold. This applies retroactively to all vehicles sold, including the first BYD cars delivered. Execution of the service Newly registered vehicles: Follow the new service plan. Service interval: The service can now be completed 2 years or 30,000 km after the last maintenance. Vehicles under one year of age: Vehicles that have not yet undergone maintenance will follow the new service plan. Three-year-old vehicles: Three-year-old cars that have been maintained for the 20,000/40 000 km can now switch to the new service plan. The service indicator in vehicles will be updated via OTA (remote updates). Currently, it is not possible to define anything other than 365 days or 20,000 kilometres. Control of rust Rust inspections are increased from annual to every two years, depending on the new service plan. A margin of 1 month always applies in accordance with the service plan. If you have any questions about the changes, please contact your BYD dealer.' https://bydauto.be/fr/blog/byd-prolonge-lintervalle-de-service-pour-tous-les-modeles-electriques/

The process is quick - took them around 45 minutes. Gbox is installed at the same time - I have to get another throw-away Google account before I start playing with this. It looks like the navigation interface has been updated again, also with new maps. Language was also asking for an up-date, but might not be related. As for the VIV, I am on V1.3.0, system is 2407 - this could be different from other BYD model?

It was one of the first, maybe 3 days after they opened the deliver - so a little over 13 months ago. We will go in tomorrow morning, I can tell more what changes after that.

Wife just got a message from BYD to get the SIM card swapped out......... this might move more briskly than I thought.

Thanks for posting, I am seeing the same chatter and was wondering how this will go down. Some say they were contacted by BYD - nothing from our dealer (yet), our sales girl is for the birds, or maybe too busy selling cars....lol

There is no equivalent to the Avatr 11 for sale in Thailand at their price point, which gives them quite some pricing power. They also have set themselves a moderate sales goal, suggesting they are going for a limited market segment that is not as price sensitive as the more mainstream offerings which presently undergoes cut-throat competition. It will be interesting to see how this strategy works in general - luxury cars with a Chinese name? It's the next big thing in China, where sub-brands like Denza and Yang Wang from BYD are taking on premium brands from Europe at half the price?

I got this same video in my YT feed...... really makes me wonder how these algos figure out what to feed to whom? But more importantly - begs the question why Western governments and companies are so obsessively putting up blinders, when in fact they have intellectuals in their midst that are properly tuned into the pulse of world affairs. The more I watch the Chinese automotive industry progress, the more I realize how little prepared Western counterparts are for the tsunami that is picking up speed in the East.

NETA has a plant in Thailand - and of course this is not good news for owners of this brand, either. https://carnewschina.com/2024/11/06/chinese-automaker-neta-reportedly-halts-production-and-cuts-salaries/ It's a pity, their wagon actually has a lot going for it, looks amongst them.

Imagine the 'driver' of a Zeeker 009 flooring it at a red-light........ instant loss of his employment if he chauffeurs grandma of the owner, giggles ear to ear if he is on the way to kindergarten with the owners kiddo - well, if said kid is a boy, of course! Seriously - who needs a 6 seater that does 4.5 sec to 100 km/h? Conversely, the 116 kWh battery would have my nod.....decisions.....decisions..... Be that as it may - Alphard might not be brightest star in the constellation of Toyoda for much longer, as the price premium in this segment is now under serious attack. I think BYD was wise to launch their model under the Denza brand - MG clearly has a brand name issue, even if the Maxus 9 is a solid offereing.

Frontal assault from the left field: (from a FB post, machine translated) 'I was at Denza Susco for around 2 hours. I met someone who put a reservation in front of 5 cars. So I asked how many have booked today? The unsurprising answer is 40 cars already. Most of them are top AWD 2.69 million, which is cheaper than Alphard around 1.4-1.5 million anyway. Interesting are my 3 friends The first person to look at the new Camry. Price 1.6 million. Another look at Alphard for 4. X million Last person looking at the Tesla Y for 1.9million These 3 people stopped booking the top 3 cars. This movement of Denza D9 shook the market a lot.' The Alphard was an amazing money maker for Toyota, now the newcomers on the block will have Toyota's lunch. This is not a big segment, but it is a lucrative one! and there are other Chinese brands eager to enter Thailand as well.