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BYD just decided to nuke the entire car industry: https://carnewschina.com/2025/01/17/byd-to-ship-autopilot-features-across-entire-lineup-from-seagull-to-yangwang-u8-in-2025/ I truly believe this is a game changer when they “democratize” access to L2+ smart driving from the cheapest to the $200k model in their line-up. This is a price war paired with a very real technological impact. We live in deed in golden car times! Of course, it begs the question how much Tesla share prices will jump on this news on Monday - the $10,000 for FSD starts to look rather silly right now.

Just reflected on that the last word - 'practicality' - and I realized I have lived a sheltered life as that abstraction was something that never entered my decision making even tangentially......or does the need for 4WD to put all the power to the road qualify as 'practicality'?

Gawd.......... the haters will be all over this one again 2025-01-11140537244191388.mp4

In all fairness, he has a point, as he obviously includes Chinese made toy cars - and for some kids replacing four AA Alkaline batteries is 'crazy amount of money required to replace them'!

Sadly - it also indicates that the whole climate change alarmist sham will unravel shortly, for if we are to do everything to reduce greenhouse gases, politics would have to take a backseat, and sales of electric vehicles be pushed to the hilt - Chinese made or otherwise! As for myself - if I did not have my own 'gas' station on my roof, I would probably pass on electric vehicles......... alas, maybe not, because the technological superiority of Chinese made cars is hard to pass up, too.

That was about as predictable as the amen in church...........lol

I am actually glad it's over and I can go back to use my electrons, produced from photons I collect on my roof. Yesterday was my last day to (almost) fill up, and what a nuisance it was: The first charger at a BYD dealer had a faulty charger head, the second charger 30 km away topped out at a miserly 28.8 kW instead of 56 when both piles are used....... Thailand's charging infrastructure is in serious need of stable, reliable and densely dispersed high power chargers, without which this great idea will peter out soon.

from a dreaded FB post: Sealion 7 AWD Performance Bangkok - Nakhon Sawan Loading extra 200 kg. Total weight 2,710 kg. - Departure from Central Rama 3 (Battery 100%) - To SHELL Recharge province. Nakhon Sawan, total distance is 222 kilometers (Battery 53%) The first 100 kilometers use a speed of not exceeding 100 km/h. 100 kilometers distance after using 100-120 km/h speed. Compare GPS speed on screen : 100km/h GPS : 97 km/h Energy usage test using ACC(Adaptive Cruise Control) + ICC (Intelligent Cruise Control) speed 80km/h. average power consumption 14.2 kWh/100km. speed 100km/h. average power consumption 17-18 kWh/100km Reference to graphics on screen even when driving in ECO mode both motors are working. Battery size 82.5 kWh. If you drive chillingly at 80 km/h, there is a chance to drive 560 kilometers in 1 charge. Testing the firepower in the Regen by lifting the foot off the throttle. Regen Standard -23 to -25 kW Regen Larger -55 to -60 kW The hydrogen power seen on the top screen when the brakes are heavily pressed at -126kW *Sealion has a Profile in Car Scanner. It can be connected but there is no information from the sent car, so it is not possible to see various information about the car. **Carrying cement bags weighing 20 kilograms, volume 10 bags, weight 200 kilograms. Let the nearby weight travel with full passengers. YMMV.......

I don't have connectivity issues since my SIM was swapped - the only, probably unrelated, issue I occasionally encounter is a very slow response to voice commands shortly after start-up, almost as if the CCP supervisor is sleeping at his desk..........but who knows?

BYD Santa visits in some part of the world........

So there is this electric car company worth more than all other car companies combined, and yet, on some of their models having produced them for several years, they still cant manage to reliably put suspensions together in a way that they stay together.....? Come-on Musk, pull your head out of his old ass and spend some time building cars in a way that does not embarrass even the most fervent fan-boy, not to mention this has the potential for great harm to the car owner and the public at large.

5 years ago, the Japanese manufacturers had Thailand carved up amongst themselves. Fast forward and the auto world is upside down

We all can speculate about the EVO platform making it to Thailand - my take is, prices will go up in two steps: First the Dec 10 discount will disappear, then a few months later the EVO will be introduced and the price hike will be justified by the new platform. Of course it can also go the other way, BYD has such brilliant and inscrutable marketing, they could very well claim the EVO platform is cheaper to produce (new blade battery and 12 in 1 controllers could very well be) - and lower prices again. In conclusion - since nothing in China takes 3 years to develop, I fully expect the EVO to arrive in less than 6 months.

In case you have 1 phase now, be very sure you're better of with a 3 phase system - e.g. if you want to occasionally use VTL, it will be much easier to get whole house power with a single phase system........ that will not be possible with 3 phases.

The real question is - how long will it take for BYD to bring in the 3.0 Evo version? and how much will they push prices up once that hits the show rooms........ I am tempted for this discount, but the version they sell is giving me pause.

Very interesting numbers........ e.g. Denza with just one model, they hit a gold mine, harvesting in a very lucrative segment. It was in fact one of the very busy corners at the BYD booth. For me - to again look at the Tesla's on display, which by any account is a tech powerhouse, completely fell on their face with the stripped down IKEA style interiors compared to the Chinese competitors, so sad.

I don't think so.......back on Nov 14, the update was to V1.3.0..........and a few days later, they downgraded back to V1.2.2 I think it was because of the app not allowing cabin per-conditioning anymore, they downgraded again.

BYD calls it 800V when they refer to the 'e-platform 3.0' - hence my comment. Way back when, the 'e-platform 3.0' was announced, they called it 800V - it's not my invention. I think the confusion is about the meaning of 800V - this simply denotes the max. voltage of the DC charger. Only 800V capable chargers will give the max. benefits of e.g. a Seal battery pack. Older chargers have lower max. voltages and will not be able to pump a car with as many electrons.......remember P=V*I https://insideevs.com/news/502427/byd-eplatform3-ea1-x-dream/

The present generation Seal sold in Thailand is 800V platform (shows around 630V) so I seriously doubt that the SL 7 is 400 to 500V. But of course 400V + is the correct answer...........that covers Voltage up to infinity

Case in point....... it's too tempting! The discussion in the comments proves the point.

I would wager a a bottle of VSOP that the insurance underwriters will stop shortly to issue 1.2M coverage for a one year old car, with the new car price at 1.2M.

These prices are insane.......... they set the price war for the show on hyper-drive! Question is - what will they pay for trade-ins? Could be tempting to upgrade to the Sealion 7 if they sharpen their pencil.......

It's not only the car 'apparently' (still no official confirmation) comes on the 3.0 and not the EVO platform, it is also de-contented in other ways, the number of proximity sensors in the front is another obvious one. In Europe they also get a version with an even bigger battery. BTW - it is an 800V architecture, i.e. the battery is well over 600V, which falls into the 800V group. Problem is, the majority of DC chargers in Thailand cant pump even 150 kW, so does it matter......? BYD always had a strange marketing approach, but hey......... who is complaining, they sell like hotcakes!

They pretty much threw everything and the kitchen sink at it, or as one commenter succinctly asked: 'Autocar surely wouldn't deliberately give a negative review because it's Chinese. I'd rather hear from owners of the car.' https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/byd/sealion-7 Case in point: ......'and there’s a useful 58-litre frunk that’s slightly fiddly to access.' Are they really that daft in the UK?

Has anybody heard that this will be rolled out in Thailand as well? This was announced to European customers, m/c translated The new interval is 2 years or 30,000 km 'BYD makes possession of a car more affordable with longer service intervals. From 1 November 2024, BYD extends the service gap for all electrical models. The new interval is 2 years or 30,000 km, compared to 1 year or 20,000 km previously. This translates into reduced operating costs for car owners. This change introduces longer service intervals for all BYD electric models sold. This applies retroactively to all vehicles sold, including the first BYD cars delivered. Execution of the service Newly registered vehicles: Follow the new service plan. Service interval: The service can now be completed 2 years or 30,000 km after the last maintenance. Vehicles under one year of age: Vehicles that have not yet undergone maintenance will follow the new service plan. Three-year-old vehicles: Three-year-old cars that have been maintained for the 20,000/40 000 km can now switch to the new service plan. The service indicator in vehicles will be updated via OTA (remote updates). Currently, it is not possible to define anything other than 365 days or 20,000 kilometres. Control of rust Rust inspections are increased from annual to every two years, depending on the new service plan. A margin of 1 month always applies in accordance with the service plan. If you have any questions about the changes, please contact your BYD dealer.' https://bydauto.be/fr/blog/byd-prolonge-lintervalle-de-service-pour-tous-les-modeles-electriques/