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Is yours also a 3.8s? I never even come close to seeing anything over 570 km of range on the dynamic GOM. My calculation is actual, i.e. distance driven (from trip meter) and battery % indicator. BTW - this is the last screenshot of the consumption indicator: 15.9 kWh/100 km for the last 50 km. This computes to almost the exact WLTP range - or 518.9 km. My actual consumption was 19.9 kWh/100 km. The consumption information on Chinese cars is one of the shortcomings compared to a Tesla - and it pains me to say this - hopefully someday BYD will copy the clear software leader of electrical cars!

ABB monthly report for November - this is what the energy geek in me likes: (I have to tweak the energy prices again, but since they yo-yo all over the place, why bother?)

Did you calculate your range? Could you have done the complete journey without adding 'gas'? We just did another BKK - HH round trip and I have to admit, I am a little shocked to not have been able to do it this time, I had to add 7% juice on the way, assuming the range indicator is linear. (added 16% and had 9% remaining per attached pic) This would put the range to around 413 km - a bit disappointing. The effective range could be a little higher, because the last 25 km I floored it a few times to make sure the SOC would be below 10% when we reached home - but the range is nowhere near mid 400's. Now I am ready to do the mandatory 10 to 100% charging cycle to allow cell balancing if it is necessary. As for the religious gobbledygook, do you think I should have driven around the block a couple more times to make the trip odometer tick over from the death tetraphobia multiple..........

Yesterday I perused 'our' BYD dealer's FB page, and could not believe the number of cars they handed over to customers - mostly Dolphins and Atto 3s, but also quite a few Seals. It's a massive dealership, but the traffic must make the owner smile all the way to the bank.......did I hear a happy jingle a lingle a ting? The flip side is, service suffers, they are simply overwhelmed. BYD is expanding so rapidly worldwide, so not surprisingly, their ratings in China are in the toilet.

Since my dealer has been useless on the subject of the firmware update, I have been bugging BYD Rever about the outstanding OTA to turn off the ice cream truck sound. This is what they finally answered: Firstly, we wish to inform you that the Over-The-Air (OTA) update is scheduled for release in November, and you will be duly notified once it becomes available. We strongly recommend your patience in awaiting the impending update. Meanwhile, as we prepare for the update, we kindly request your cooperation in providing the following information to ascertain your ownership of the vehicle. This information will enable us to coordinate with relevant agencies effectively: 1. Full Name: 2. Phone Number: 3. Registered Email: 4. Vehicle Identification Number (VIN): 5. Model-Sub Model: 6. Dealer's Name: 7. License Plate Number: There is budding hope, something will finally move........albeit November is just a few more days

The top line model in China has this feature, I have not heard anybody outside China testing the Seal mentioning this feature. It clearly is not on cars destined for Thailand, quite a shame.

I made a list of number of reasons that matter to me, than the gods of Internet connectivity decided against me posting it, so they deposited my verbal diarrhea somewhere in an electron dumpster........ good grief. Anyway - here is one of the simple recaps, statistics. The app will give me a good glimpse of what is really going on over time with charging and cost.

Are you able to connect the app via your WiFi to the charger? I had it connected and it responded for a few days, but now has quit to recognize any of my routers, even though it shows WiFi is set up......... frustrating! Bluetooth works fine, but that means I have to get up form my air-conditioned office to manipulate he charger........what an inconvenience!

They are also about 1/3 the weight and size of a lead acid battery, cost 3 times more, completely maintenance free. Clearly sets the BYD Seal apart from many other EV's.

Thanks for the link, some good stuff - and the guy elevates the annoying Thai squeeecky voice to another level yet........lol Did I understand that right - the 12V battery is Li-Ion, not the ordinary lead acid car battery?

BTW - did you know that you should also break-in the speakers? from one audiophile Internet source: 'How Long To Break In Speakers? Be patient. It can 20-30 hours for new speakers to break in and reach their full potential. Don't be discouraged if they don't sound perfect from the start - give them some time and they'll eventually reach that point.' Begs the question - when car testers comment on the audio of a car, were the speakers properly broken in? or was there one ghetto blaster first in line, cranking the system to 150 and trashing the sound speakers before they ever had a chance to develop their full potential? Do you care? or do you rather hum your own tunes........?

I am probably the dummy here for not conveying my suggestion properly: The default screen shows Spotify, radio and navigation. I don't use Spotify, so I replaced it with the phone app, could be anything else you find more desirable from page 2 or 3. So Spotify went to the trash, then I moved the phone app into its place just like you can move apps on an android tablet. Btw - Spotify is still present on the second page, so it could be placed back at anytime. For non android users - tiles are manipulated by 'holding them down' until they become malleable. BTW2: This is not even scratching the surface - if you wish, you can load android apps until the cows come home...........lol

For those that are also not enamored by the infotainment default set-up, let me remind you that the basic MUI is based on android, hence can be manipulated just like it, e.g.......

Not in the first couple of hundred meters.......lol

The reason why there are different comments about how hot the glass roof gets is in the film quality. A cheap film will actually increase the inside glass temperature (the dark film absorbs more photons/energy) while a high quality film reflects more light back instead of absorbing the energy. Don't skimp of the film quality, you will regret it as long as you own the car. I paid THB 29,500 for film all around. (Lamina EV special something) One additional benefit is the transparency from the inside is higher than from the outside, i.e. it reduces visibility of who sits in the car, while still gives good night visibility.

ALL Seals have OTA update capabilities, that was always part of the package - there are probably no EVs sold these days that don't have that feature.

Found this on a Chinese site. I hope we don't have to wait too long until we get all the goodies activated as well, but it might just be too much for BYD - they open new dealer networks almost weekly all over Europe and South America, its a hell of a rapid expansion.

The whole idea is to clone the NFC card onto your phone, encryption and all. There are 3rd party apps for this, I just have not had the urge to get my lazy bum into gear for this.

The whole idea of the NFC is to not need a key, just your smart phone (assuming it has NFC, which is pretty standard these days) In China that functionality is incorporated into the BYD app, and when asked in a forum, one Chinaman explained that they are about 6 months ahead of the ROW........so there is hope, as the present BYD app is a fing joke!

I picked-up my performance model on October 3. 579 km driven so far, tomorrow will be the first trip to BKK - we will see which side he consumption surprise will fall. Some day soon I will make a little write up on to good, the bad and the ugly of Seal ownership - suffice to say I have no regrets, but there are as always some disappointments.

I wonder whether this instruction applies to all LFP batteries: (from the owners manual) I also wonder how many owners will abide by these instructions, let alone read the manual..........lol

I have a BEV and PHEV - but I have made these purchasing decisions without being a fanatic, which seems to be the most common position in either camp. I firmly believe the BEV will not be the dominant vehicle ever, I firmly believe that BEV's have ascended artificially due to idiotic political manipulations. The reality of different transportation needs will keep the ICE a viable propulsion system in many parts of the world and for many applications. The biggest driver for me to embrace electrical propulsion is simply rooted in the fact that I fuel my vehicles from my own solar array - my energy is free. If I would live in a condo, I would absolutely NOT own an EV! There are already seismic shifts taking place that to me seem to be the harbingers of this reality - one of which is the rapid build up of BEV inventory in the US, another one is the affordability of insurance (or lack thereof). It remains to be seen how battery degradation will impact long term ownership - or more broadly, how resale values will fare in the long-term compared to ICE vehicles. A lifetime ago, I owned a VW Phateton W12 - it was a colossal monster weighting almost 2.5 tons. My BYD Seal dual motor is almost the same weight, albeit is much smaller - is that really progress in 20 years? Of course, there is also this...........lol

Have you been reading the user's manual while you are patiently waiting for your car to arrive? I know, nowadays its almost heretical to read said manuals, especially here in Thailand people rather go to FB and ask the most ludicrous, idiotic questions........ anyway, about the operating manual of your soon to be delivered car - I did spend some time to read some pages, and lo and behold, there are quite a few juicy details that I did not realize - case in point: breaking in of the drive-train for the first 2000 km? Petrol heads know how important it is to break in a new vehicle to make engines and gearboxes last longer and perform better.........strangely, BYD recommends to break in the Seal for the first 2000 km in Ecco mode – probably for the gear box? or to completely discharge the battery to 0% and charge it 100% again every month? or max. acceleration is achieved when the battery is charged obve 95%? etc.......

The BYD Seal has a Cd of 0.219 - that's probably why they also have shutters. Its a cool feature, but also scary, being another gizmo that will fail at some point, and adds debatable complexity. It also shows that the Chinese are not afraid to go all in if they deem it necessary in their pursuit of market leadership.