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BYD Seal AWD: Another trip to BKK, total distance run: 425 km; remaining battery: 7% or 35 km - so realistically, the max range is 450 km max. (my wife would probably do +5%) Parameters: 95% of time 2 people, about 25 km with 3 on board. Temperature: outside of BKK and suburbs, around 34C, in the city 37C (per BYD gauge) speed outside city: max 120 km/h, most of the time around 110 to 115; driving mode setting: normal Conclusion: the range is OK, but I would not want to have any less; the non AWD model is the more sensible selection....... but could I really live without the ooommp on occasion? 😁 On a totally different subject: Am I the only one who finds the 'two blink' one touch turn signal very odd, if not to say nonsense? I have had this feature on every car going back over 20 years, all car had 3 blink one touch turn signals.......... what's up with BYD? Are all BYD models like this?

You are charging at 500 kW super-charging stations? Thought so.......... 🤣 I once went to a 150 kW DC fast charger, the cable was already quite hefty, so a 500 kW water cooled cable is probably pretty nutty. This is a sample: at 400 V and 500 A it's 200 kW at 800 V and 500 A it's 400 kW at 1,000 V and 500 A it's 500 kW

I agree with your take on EV's, except for the fast- or super-charging bit. It is much more important to have a dense network of chargers, than the ultra high charging speeds. Moreover, going at it with much over 200 kW brings with it a truckload of problems, especially if the charge station holds multiple stations. If you have 20 bays charging at 500 kW you need a small powerplant close by, not to mention that each charger needs to be water cooled, including the cables......... and good luck for the ladies hauling a 20 Kg charging cable around, broken finger nails and all 🤣

Interesting test results by a Chinese outlet (Dongchendi) on CLTC vs. actual range for some models sold in China, what is especially curios are the significant variations between models, i.e. from below 20% to almost 40% loss. No details were given about test parameters, so it is not possible to evaluate the test conditions and how they might have affected the result.

If they make it to Thailand, prices In Thailand will be significantly higher, because Xiaomi has no plans to build a factory in Thailand, which removes some incentives the Thai government gave companies like BYD and Deepal etc. But in China this will have an impact - in an already very crowded segment of EV models. From what I read, Xiaomi has their sights on Europe as they compare their top model with the likes of the Porsche Tycan.

Xiaomi SU7 was introduce with prices this evening, and they rock! Converted from Chinese prices to THB: 'official price in China for the starting model 1.16 million baht, and Pro and Max models will be 1.24 - 1.52 million baht. 50,000 orders in 27 minutes after accepting orders. https://carnewschina.com/2024/03/28/xiaomi-su7-launched-with-830-km-range-starts-at-29900-usd/

I suppose some day you will notice that the UK is no longer in the EU....... at least not for the time being. Battery degradation uncertainty might just not be the right counter EV argument - HV battery SOH can actually be determined very accurately with the right diagnostic tools. I seriously doubt that many EV's have been bought because the buyer wants to contribute to the 'safe the planet' gospel, sure some did, but for most the reasons are very different. It seems to me what brought on the craze are the incentives in various forms - e.g. in Beijing getting a plate for an ICE is next to impossible and only by lottery, EV's get them instantly........etc. If incentives are removed on a large scale - like Germany just did - the EV segment will fall on hard times, but that could be the reason Germany with a badly struggling EV industry did it? I have an EV for technical reasons. The financial incentive was also not too shabby. I also do not think the world will go EV within a few years as mostly Tesla stock holders are betting on. But I also think EV's are here to stay, the cat is out of the bag, and it is fun to drive an EV - maybe take off the blinders and give it a try? As for your desire to inhale the exhaust fumes of the modded pick-up trucks belching black Diesel smoke by the truckload - enjoy!

You must be driving down-wind, down-hill all the time.......... my cumulative AEC shows 18.1 kWh/100 km 🤣

The motors are not the problem..... your right foot is..........lol

Really? Most American muscle cars were sedans parading as sports cars, with 2 tons of an iron clump under the hood, redlining at 4500 RPM.........lol Trust me, I had one - a T/A 455 SD no less, quick for the times, no breaks to speak of, and would be run off the road by most lowly electrical car today. But hey, we were all kids at some point, but most of us moved on, had real jobs, maybe even family......... but not all did 🤪

You just made this up, right? or maybe I misread........... ..........'as BYD is not able to talk to your EV' - how exactly do you think you get information about your car on your BYD app? or turn your AC on or off? BYD could very well do the OTA update without WIFI, why they chose not to is anybody's guess, maybe they are afraid to be hassled when using the network data plan? That would not be a problem for most - in my case, I use less than 20% of the 2GB monthly data allocation.

Its obvious to me (by the 3.8 sec acceleration capability and the max power reading of 390 kW)) that the car is essentially 4WD, but not in all conditions. I would think that BYD has tested the snow scenario, too - how this slipped by their testing for the final product is unbelievable. Maybe it's just an export problem? But as one commenter pointed out - maybe the car will start to under steer more if the patch is not properly tuned?

I saw on YT that 'down-under' they got a new OTA to 2401, I am still on 2310 - what SW version are you guys on? link to the clip:

I agree - the car is way 'under-tired', but I suppose the focus was on maximizing the driving range. On FB are lots of wheel-tire upgrade comments, the bigger combos are around 255's on 20 inch wheels. However, the loss of range penalty is massive. Moreover, the wheels I have seen on most of the upgrades are probably not adequate for the heavy car - there is a reason the OEM wheels weigh a ton! I plan on consulting a local tire expert on whether the OEM wheels will accommodate a 245 tire - its not much, but every bit counts. I think the OEM wheels are 8" wide, and the 245 is ideal on 9" - if the wheels are 8.5", I would try the 245's. As for the traction control cutting in so hard - the trade off would be a softer take off, but I suppose with that solution everybody would complain the car is not snappy enough.........lol I take it you have the iTAC turned on? Have you experimented with iTAC off? Idiot_driver.mp4

Does anybody else follow this company on FB? Quite impressive what they do with their EV tear downs to become a 3rd party service center. https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100095486864026 Interesting tidbit on BYD: although BYD is known for being heavily vertically integrated, they don't shy away from using 3rd party systems (this one is the Atto 3) even more strange is that they marry ZF and their own sub-assembly together. And for the haters: ZF is a well known, high quality German company - how does that fit into the narrative of cheap Chinese cars? 😇

Couple of questions: 1. Do the retaining holes of the driver side floor mat fit and clip into place? in my case, the floor mat holes are too small and cant clip into the pins, so the mat constantly moves. 2. Do your cars make a 'farting noise' around 150km/h? I read this in a few forums on FB, so it seems to be pretty common. Cant believe in this day and age this could happen, although one guess is that the airflow is so maxed out to get to the cd 0.219, it probably takes next to nothing to lose the optimized air flow somewhere....... my guess is the leading edge of the roof glass. 3. Do you follow the charging instructions per manual? always to 100%? and 10 to 100% every couple months? Because I charge from solar, I prefer to charge just for a few hours every day, but maybe that is not ideal.........

You are funny - where's there an 8, 10, 15 mile stretch to run at 305 km/h? That's what I thought, so the range point you alluded to is totally irrelevant. On a more technical note, it is an impressive feat and needs crazy over-engineering for just bragging rights - for an electric car motor to sustain full power and battery drain for anything more than a few seconds is nothing short of a miracle, especially because BYD is using LFP batteries for this supercar. Unfortunately the interior of this car is a disaster - by far the worst design of any BYD vehicle of recent production.......... what were they thinking???

Not too shabby for a lap-top battery producer.........lol YANGWANG U9 EV supercar—Top Speed of 192 mph (305+ km/h) Blistering 0-60 mph (0-100 km/h) in 2.36 2024-0~1.MP4

Did anybody see this? On the BYD Dolphin model, but also available for the Seal: 'All EV Service' is making progress 'hacking' some display details, pretty cool - albeit, EPA is not useful, but that is known in the industry. I would like to have the WLTP range shown. instead of the CLTC.

Interesting story and happy ending........ good to hear! There is one little morsel in your post that triggered me for an entirely different reason......... 'I actually didn’t mind adding another 450 km to my Seal odometer' - implying your car was sitting in your car-port fully charged? With an ICE powered car, being low on fuel and an emergency like this comes up would not even make you think for a sec - with an electric vehicle and low battery, it could become quite embarrassing rather quickly. Do you guys really keep your battery close to the max all the time? or rather, have a second car as emergency back-up on hand?

Does anybody plan on visiting the Bangkok EV Expo. touted as 'The very first electric vehicles exhibition in Thailand'? Feb 8 to 11. https://www.bangkokevexpo.com/

Not that it matters to us at the moment in Thailand, but minus 33 deg Celsius is pretty cold for testing and EV:

Who else is stoked about the Avatr 12 coming to Thailand? It's a Changan/CATL/Huawei joint venture......... yes, the Changan brand that is also bringing in the Deepal S07 and L07 already on sale here, which makes it somewhat plausible. Chatter on FB makes it a given sometimes in 2024, but it makes little sense, given the very limited market size. Conversely, if price projections of around THB 2.5 Million pan out, Tesla is toast - and I will get one! 😂 Needless to say, this is a serous contender, apart from being breathtakingly beautiful, it is choke-full of technology, probably a given with Huawei as a partner. Another interesting detail is the warranty in China: For the first owner, unlimited for battery and drive motors. Eat that - Tesla! Just some late night EV porn for the real connoisseur. For all others, it's either PornHub or ICE's.

At least this is a common denominator all males are experts in............. unlike electric cars! 😂🤣

Is this just a seasonal outlier or is Tesla really so far off the charts now?