Eloquent pilgrim

It is plain for anyone to see that it was not your point at all. However, your cunning attempt at obfuscating deserves great credit.

The biggest problem with that is that Christopher Columbus didn't discover Australia

Probably have a long wait to see Benedict Cumberbatch as Nelson Mandela ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What the OP fails to mention is if his increased bill is due to an increase charge per unit of electricity, or an increase in usage; it’s probably a combination of the two, so you need to calculate the percentages of both to understand.

I have noticed before that when an interaction you are engaged in with another poster is not going to your liking, you revert to one of two somewhat shallow default mechanisms. You either accuse them of being a troll, which is invariably not the case, or you finish your comment with “goodbye” Both of these ploys are a risible attempt at silencing the other person by trying to end the engagement; the implication is that your adversary has no further right to reply, leaving you of course, having had the last word. These ploys are both commonly used nowadays online, and they sit in the same category as finishing a comment with “period” or “fact” and are transparent in their intent, and rather tiresome. You have used both of them on me in one fell swoop, I am honoured indeed.

You know full well that you have not explained it to me, and that you cannot. That is, of course, because it is not possible for a first law to be a consequence of a second. You however, refuse to admit that you made an error. Maybe you think that admitting to a simple error would somehow diminish your status, when in fact, the opposite is true; you are only deceiving yourself, nobody else.

Obfuscating of the first order; you have indulged yourself in a meaningless monologue designed to do anything other than answer my simple question, which was … how can the first law be a consequence of the second ??

Would you be kind enough to explain how the first law can be a consequence of the second law ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

lower him into a tree shredder, feet first ............. very slowly

Abnormal farang asks if there are any normal farangs living in Thailand; the irony is quite breathtaking.

Not sure that you should really go out unaccompanied ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

How absolutely tragic, too sad for words; poor wee lassie, and totally devastating for her family .. RIP young lady.

Thanks, but I have never advocated ignoring the possible side effects of any procedure, prostate, or otherwise. I was replying to a poster who said that “Incontinence an impotence being the 2 usual side effects of all the treatments” Which is alarmist scaremongering, and categorically untrue. There have been millions of successful prostate treatments in the last few years, particularly with the Rezum, GreenLight laser, and iTind procedures more recently. However, side effects are always a potential risk, and proper research should be made in consultation with a urologist because every case is different and some procedures are less suitable depending on size of enlargement, and other factors. Every individual must assess the risk/reward balance of any procedure, dependent on how distressing their symptoms are compared to the possible outcome. Doctors and physicians have a duty of care to explain any possible side effects before a procedure, and you should be asked to read through them before signing a pre-procedure consent form.

Too late ...

Thanks for your extremely positive input. I’m sure it will be very helpful for anyone reading this thread and looking for advice on the management of BPH …. you’re a real star

Your comment makes very little sense; my friend is having GreenLight Laser Prostatectomy at the urology department of a reputable London hospital. He will not be treated with a hot wire.

Excellent post, good practical advice; BPH can be managed for many years with Tamsulosin, Finasteride etc. Most men try to ignore it, rather than taking the proactive interest that is needed. I have a friend in the UK who has ignored the symptoms for years; last week he was in the A&E with acute retention, having a catheter inserted. He’s now walking around with a bag strapped to his leg, very distressed, and has just booked a private Green light laser treatment for £10k, rather than wait over 2 months for an NHS appointment … ouch Get to know your prostate … great advice

Really ? Just offer him 50k and see how offended he gets ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You are right, you did not say they were poor and I should not have made that assumption for which I apologise. Returning to the crux of the matter, the phantom 400,000 Baht. Whilst expecting everyone to accept that your BIL was the victim of a massive scam, you offer no information whatsoever as to how it happened. You haven’t even said which bank it was that his account is with. The usual way to transfer such a large amount would be to go to the bank, with bank book and ID card, and set the transfer up in the bank. However, you said he went to the bank later to complain, so he obviously didn’t use that method. So, did he make the transfer using his phone or a laptop ? This would obviously mean that he has online or mobile banking. It would also involve some strict security protocols; he would have needed to set up a new payee, which would have to be verified by sending a OTP to his registered mobile. Then the same procedure again to make the transfer, after having lifted daily transfer limits, which are a mandatory setting with most banks. It is not easy to transfer 400k to a completely unknown account online. Or did he make the transfer at an ATM ? this would mean having a bank card and the knowledge of how to use other services at an ATM, apart from withdrawals; and I am not sure how you could transfer that amount at an ATM. Don’t tell us that he is too embarrassed to say how it happened, because he wasn’t too embarrassed to claim it has happened. If you genuinely want help and advice, then you need to tell us how it happened; until then, it just seems like a fantasy. Nice penultimate sentence BTW …… fishing for likes, not much.

Yes indeed it does, so thanks for the explanation. What a difference one word can make eh ?

Puerile, unedifying comment

Luddite

I accept that there are some good scammers operating, but this is not an example of one; nobody that has the nous and acumen required to accumulate more than 400k Baht in their account, would give it away on a phone call instruction. It is an absolute fortune to what the OP is now claiming are a poor rural, uneducated family. How did he make the transfer while talking on the phone ? Using a laptop to access his account ? You’ve been here long enough to know the security palaver involved in making such a large transfer in Thailand. There is only one scammer here, and it is the brother-in-law, who is either trying to scam his own bank with an accomplice, or extract a large sympathy payment from the OP.

Sad story, but why was he willing to transfer that amount just on a phone call request ?? Who in their right mind would transfer 400k into an unknown account on a phone call request, it doesn’t sound right somehow. I have a transaction limit of 100k on my BBL account; if I want to pay for something that is more than that, I go to the bank with bank book and passport and make a transfer request or get a cashier cheque. The cynic in me thinks that maybe the BIL is trying to scam his bank

But your passport is not actually missing is it ? I hope you don’t go into this sort of panic mode every time you f@rt …. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯