coolcarer

How does that compare with the all important vaccine administration. What were the vaccine levels of the population in the delta wave and those in the present Omicron wave. Knowing that vaccinations protect up to 90% death along with around 70-80% hospitalization. They appear to be doing a tremendous job, along with the help of Omicron being a bit milder. It’s a pity those unvaccinated left do not see how well they protect.

True, but also down to the education of the parents, likely they’ve had just as bad experience as their children are having now. Never ending circle of failure for so many, although there are of course exceptions.

Depends what your lifestyle or work commitments are really. I’m a teacher and need to self test weekly, in addition to those we also get random tests done sometimes at school. My passion outside of work is football and to play against other teams in league matches we also need to take tests. It becomes part of normal living when there is little choice. If I lived in a village somewhere and didn’t go out to mix with others then obviously there would be little point testing so regularly.

Yes but the reason I responded was because you said it had been going on for years, so before the pandemic, that said you’ve already made your position clearer with another post and I agree with you on that.

People in the UK never go to a hospital for a bad cold, how have you been seeing this for years, they would be promptly marched off the premises and told to visit a pharmacy/chemist or their registered GP. Fact is in winter hospitals tend to get a little busier with elderly patients attending with heart, blood and long standing vascular related decease brought on by the cold weather. That however is separate to actual covid admissions. Agree 100% that Omicron is milder but it’s still at this point a problem while so many get it at the same time. Perhaps when this wave is over attitudes and treatments for it will change but that cannot happen in the middle of a crisis.

Out of approx 8,000 covid hospital admissions in the UK as it stands, it seems having only 400 of those as Omicron with the rest as delta is not positive news enough? Hospital admissions and deaths are being classified in the same way as they were before Omicron, why the nit picking now?

baffles me when I see a post like this, surely you just don’t click on it if you don’t want to rather than contribute with nothing? I can’t speak for everyone but I’m getting on with life under covid measures as I presume we all have to.

Schools are integral to a society and as you mentioned not having them running when Thailand is at such a tail end stage of the pandemic is inexcusable. I am also a teacher of science in a large well known international school, enjoying my holidays where I would normally return to the UK but impossible this year. I school has been fully open since Oct but it has western management who have placed very good protocols in place. Yes we’ve had cases in both students and staff but have never needed to close the whole school as a result. I’ve many Thai colleagues who work in government schools, some are desperate to get back and some are loving the excuse to stay home and do the occasional online class, much easier for them, getting paid the same and more time off. No ethics and no responsibility to the educational welfare of the children. UK had many failings in dealing with covid but at least even with Omicron rampant the schools are open as their priority.

You’ve changed your tune, not long ago when Omicron was first detected in Thailand you were saying how overblown it all was, the media causing the hype, over reactions, even hoping for further easing of restrictions. What made you suddenly change your stance? Interested in the reasoning for this.

Nobody as far as I know got boosters in South Africa and the Omi wave there has decreased and continues to do so. These boosters are precautions and ones that everyone should take but may not be the long term solution.

Pure speculation, just because the boosters wane does not mean the innate immunity through the B and T cells do. Those are by all reports expected to remain intact.

Ever tried adding something instead of insults? Since when has thinking for oneself been an exclusive attribute to one group of people only, especially the ones that believe in hidden agendas rather than the published science.

What one sided narrative are you referring to? All media reported widely on the narrative expressed by Dr Angelique Coetzee where she was saying it’s nothing to worry about. However is she right or wrong? That’s yet to be evidenced fully. All media has reported the findings of the studies carried out in South Africa. The media has also reported on the studies of other countries such a UK and on WHO statements. Do you really think there is a concerted effort to bury real studies coming out about Omicron? It’s highly transmissible, it may well be less severe but it may also overwhelm some countries putting the health service at risk, even if it does not they still need to plan for that. That’s as far as I know and as far as has been reported. What makes you think there is more deliberately being hidden by YouTube or any other media channel?

You’re not going to find many real expert virologists or epidemiologists with their own YouTube channel, they are far to busy with their work in this pandemic. Producing a channel is timing consuming and a full time job. it also creates a conflict of interest on the money to be made from youtube. If they appear on youtube it’s normally through a third party interview.

That’s the norm, blame anyone apart from themselves. The bigger picture is quite likely as you say. The WHO specifically stated just over a week ago that it was probably already in most countries, it’s just that they had not detected it yet. So here we are. As posted earlier it’s also now in Bangkok.

Scare mongering posts like this are not needed with talk of lockdowns and closing the borders, the WHO made it pretty clear as we all know this would get in anyway and was probably in most countries by now, they had just not detected it through lack of testing. Whats needed are preparations, deciding what they will do with all those who get Omi, are they going to insist on quarantining all of them. The hope here is that Thailand may follow the path of South Africa where it came and without too many deaths so far and no full hospitals.

You’d have to be incredibly naive to think it’s not already here now. With it showing mild symptoms it won’t be noticed till it’s too late

You’ve got a fascination to Boris, this is Thailand try again.

Dumb statement, what’s going to change on 4th Jan? Nothing, apart from a worsening situation throughout the world and even more reason to keep the test and go shut. Why delay the inevitable, there’s no brownie points in it! All they are doing now is prolonging the economic disaster.

Because maybe if the rules change and he has to quarantine for 10 or 14 days his work commitments will not allow it?

When you have recorded covid numbers this low there is no excuse for this whatsoever. Morally and ethically it’s wrong

When it’s 100 deaths, or 1000 are you still going to be holding on to that same, oh but they do not give us the details for the first death but it’s ok an LBC radio show had a caller that claimed he knew he was 70 years old and unvaccinated. Well if true then all the more weight that he did in fact die as a direct result of Omicron, it ties in with statistics from South Africa.

Very scientific. Pass your information onto the relevant officials. No cough, 75% no symptoms, reports are confusing delta with omicron, the numbers are incredibly good. email [email protected]

Typical anti vaxxers OP that takes a couple of google searches and a sprinkle of logic to send it where it belongs

Nice deflection of my question to you