Chomper Higgot

Iran will not be ‘ended’. And better the Devil you know than the devil you don’t. But do continue with your fantasy war games if it makes you happy.

Simple fix, Withdraw the whip and dismiss them from the Labour Party.

Remind me. Who broke the last deal?

Are you forgetting the British Army in Northern Ireland were not ‘foreign’? Well at least that was the opinion of the British Government and the Unionists. Putting armed troops on the streets was an action, it had consequences. They weren’t good. A lesson for our times for those who care to learn it.

A lot of your own hopes for the future and denial of the fact that the rightwing vote is indeed split.

As I pointed out in earlier, the next UK election is due after Trump has left office and the outcome of his untethered policies is known. If Trump goes ahead with sanctions against the UK, Farage will need to explain his frothing support for Trump. “Extreme Left vs Moderate Right.” Thank you for that, it’s always nice to finish the day with a bit of humor. “No more split vote.” .. ”1 on 1” Good to see you recognize Reform is splitting the rightwing vote. Long may it continue.

Unfortunately, Irish Republicans who regarded themselves as patriots had other ideas.

Seems they must have paid him for this too: https://news.sky.com/story/reform-canvasser-in-pm-racism-row-says-he-was-a-total-fool-13160491

But but but whatabout

Put it to the test. Feel free to make corrections of anything I’ve said.

Erm.. none. Dud I ever say any where? Erm… no I did not.

Racists and bigots are within all political parties. That’s not the same thing as a political party attracting racist and bigots, something at which Reform UK are adept. https://www.politico.eu/article/what-the-nationalist-right-gets-wrong/

I chose my words with care, their meaning is precise. Your attempt to twist their meaning is clear.

You seem to have responded to the wrong post. I was clarifying Nauseas’ misunderstanding. Antisemites are being discussed in another thread, perhaps that’s where you thought you were posting.

On the record of the past two weeks, much of what Trump is trying to do isn’t allowed. When the courts don’t put a stop to his unconstitutional nonsense he reverses his own executive orders with a Rev 1.

You seem to struggle with the difference between stating the fact that Reform UK does indeed ‘attract racists and bigots, some as party member’ and EP’s misrepresenting that factual statement as ‘calling Reform supporters racists and bigots’. There’s a subtle but important difference. But at least you were trying to help fellow traveler out.

Again I do not need to defend any argument I have not made or point of view I have not expressed. Though I do understand why you need to deflect from having statements you have made being challenged.

If I had ever lived in the UK? When did I call supporters of Reform UK racists and bigots? No it’s not reasonable to ask me to defend an argument I have never made or a point of view I have never expressed. If you want o invent points of view and then argue against them, knock yourself out, but please, don’t involve me.

I believe they are being discussed in other threads. Maybe you thought that’s were you were posting?!

Yes, in a little over 4 years. Interestingly, after Trump has left office and the world has had a chance to witness untethered right wing Government and its outcome.

I don’t need to, it’s not an Islam/Muslim fixated argument I have ever made. I think it’s bigoted to habitually juxtaposition discussion of immigration with your Islam/Muslim fixation, doubly so when you continually frame your views of a whole religion and its adherents within the crimes committed by individuals, not by the whole Muslim community. Given it’s been my experience that individual adherents to any religion vary widely in how ‘adherent’ they are, I’m at a bit of a loss to understand on what basis you claim to know there are ‘thousands of young male Islamists’ being imported to the UK. Perhaps you have a basis for this statement, if so do you care to share?

Non of that matters. He’s using his platform to vomit hate, it’s getting coverage and the millions who follow him hear it. Marketting 101, keep repeating the message. Kayne West is doing his bit to repeat the message of antisemitism and a basket of other hatred to a wide audience. There is no justification, there are no excuses. There is a known outcome.

I understand your sensitivity to my observation that racists and bigots are attracted to Farage and Reform UK, some, I believe, as ‘party’ members. Your habitual fixation on Islam and Muslims might be an explanation.

Well certainly the rightwing media’s campaign against the Labour Government kicked off on day one.

Or the third option. Labour delivers improved economy and improved public services while actually dealing with immigration rather than using as a means to distract the electorate.