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  1. 17 minutes ago, EricTh said:

    I have similar experience in Thai embassy and also Thai immigration. It's because the number of applicants who want to go to Thailand is enormous, so they can afford to be rude.

     

    Thailand is definitely not the land of smiles as wrongly portrayed by some marketing companies. 

     

     

     

     

    Hmmm I would say you are half right. I think you have to understand that even if you are being polite and have all your documents in order, they are dealing with hundreds if not thousands of others who are rude and who do not have their documents in order....ever. I really hands to God never had a problem with the staff in the London embassy and I found them to be just very stressed but not intentionally rude. It is a tough job man.

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  2. 1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

    Everyone is required to enter with Covid insurance. Be SURE that "asymptomatic positive hospital coverage" is included in the policy!

    That is a bloody diamond of a point, well done sir! Thankfully I have not got my policy yet and will make sure of this. I am also planning on taking two packs of my own Lateral flow tests so I will be testing myself if they try and claim I am positive.

  3. On 10/27/2021 at 1:24 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

    Now, here's my quandary - You have to take a Covid test and show you're negative to board a plane. What use is another test after getting off the plane other than to generate revenue for the people performing the test? Did I suddenly get Covid from any of the OTHER passengers who ALSO tested negative?

    Sorry my mistake, I need glasses. I thought you said onboard. I agree then, the parameters are massive but I would like to think statistically these checks will narrow things down a bit.

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  4. 4 hours ago, kingstonkid said:

    While yes his actions are not proper the bigger question is not what should happen to him BUT how much of this goes on in Thai society?

    Is this a norm in Thai villages or Thai families.

    Having taught in Thai high schools where there boys seem to think that girls are there for them and teen abuse is covered up by the school you have to wonder.

    It is <deleted> horrendous at times, the stories my daughter and son tell me. Luckily my daughter is 5ft11, built like an athlete and slaps harder than a Russian in a slapping competition.

  5. 11 hours ago, VictorInBKK said:

    Is private transfer mandatory? No Airport Link or MRT allowed not even Grab? I was planning on going all the way to a hotel near Chinatown by public transportation. Getting there and being forced to book an overpriced transfer on the spot wouldn't be a great start.

    Sorry I was not clear. The private airport transfer is part of the price and is laid on directly by my hotel. So for 6500 I get private airport transfer, 3 meals, PCR test and one night two days stay. Not too bad of a deal if you ask me.

  6. 28 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

    it stands to reason LOS will become the hub  of varants with so many arrivals from all over the world ,it wil have em all eventualy

    huh, like every other country who is now letting in double jabbed travelers from specific countries only. As long as enough people are double jabbed and don't get sick, the elderly and sick take extra precautions and we continue the roll out of the 3rd jab, we should just <deleted> let it rip.

  7. I just booked my one night with private transfer from airport and PCR test for 6500. Luckily my flight gets in at 6am so I can get my test early and the result the next morning. My deal comes with a full refund if your PCR test before travel is positive and a full refund if you cancel 7days prior to booking date.

     

    What I was most worried about was there being enough hotel rooms which are able to cater for quarantining passengers, it would seem that there are plenty right now and more hotels are starting to apply. If you can get the type of deal above, I would seriously book it now because with the refund stipulations as they are, you really have a lot to gain and much to loose. Imagine if you were all booked, visa in hand and ready to rock but there were no hotels with quarantine credentials or there were but at astronomical prices. Another worry is they wouldn't have the available staff to go to all the hotels to do the tests.

     

    Noah built the ark before the rain. Chok dee krap ????

  8. 9 hours ago, zzaa09 said:

    A better solution would to invest in rapid test kits [as in: 5 min result]. But, that might be too logical and expensive. 

     

    As it stands today with the new opening requirements and the forced waiting/quarantine for such test results, they're never gonna be able to organize it efficiently. Appears as another well intentioned but ill prepared Thai clusterphuck. 

     

    I can just see the numerous problem that will arise.

    There was a report in The UK recently which showed the lateral flow tests to actually be more accurate than previously thought. I think a lateral flow and a PCR test at the airport would work. If the flow is negative you can go home and again a show of good faith would be needed for people to self isolate until they have their negative PCR test result.

  9. 6 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

    I have never been much of a fan of Vietnam, but Thailand has always lacked the "cool" factor. There are a small percent of the youth that are bordering on hip, but the nation has always lacked that kind of character, been way too conventional, square, conservative, and thinking outside of the box is discouraged on nearly every level. And that does not seem to be changing. 

     

    Thailand is odd, different, bizarre, and strange, but not quirky. 

    Spot on Mike. I found that even Indonesia and Indonesians are more quirky then Thai's. Indonesian art is awesome.

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  10. On 10/15/2021 at 1:54 AM, Boomer6969 said:

    The dummy has just forgotten one minor aspect, how can you travel to and within Thailand with kids under 12? This is my situation, while I am living in Thailand and fully vaccinated (Janssen + Moderna) I can't even consider domestic travel with my two girls, 6 and 10 years old.

     

    Otherwise his statement is rather reasonable. The one day quarantine is a must as otherwise people would have to wait for their results at the airport. The reorientation of Thai tourism away from sex, alcohol and drugs would be a legitimate move too and there will be enough Chinese and Indians..

     

     

    There will not be enough hotel rooms in quarantine hotels to cater to the influx.

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  11. On 10/13/2021 at 10:06 PM, Trvlr55 said:

    If only considering those full vaccinated, in the US the breakthrough rate is around 0.03% "breakthrough is the term for those that get covid that are fully vaccinated". Of that many of these are Immunocompromised people. Now if we add a PCR test before flight and then one after flight the odds are astronomical that there's going to be a huge amount of imported Covid cases... Might not be lottery odds, but getting there. Even @0.03% that's 3 cases per 10k passengers, but would be much lower than this. Again only considering those fully vaccinated as this is the discussion about NO quarantine for them. So that might be 3 cases in 100K or lower.

     

    Thailand currently has 10k+- cases per day. the risk of imported covid from fully vaccinated, double PCR tested tourists, is statistically irrelevant. Thailand is already doing a real bang up job creating their own 0k+- cases per day. After vaccinated rates of 50-60%+ then it's more about how many deaths, not the infection rate, as then it's mostly nothing more than a cold or flu. Even before 50%, the vulnerable segments of the population has been vaccinated for quite some time.

     

    The way I read this announcement is very similar to what Clinton would do. Come up with an idea, float it to the media, see the reactions and commentary, and then, if to negative, deny it was nothing more than just an "autonomous leak" they were only considering; otherwise revise per same commentary, and go for it.

    Spot on. The benefit outweighs the risk here and I am under the impression that there will be a test at the airport but the next 24hrs will be done on goodwill that people will not go out slimming up the place before they get their negative result. I am pretty sure you can test negative via PCR twice in the space of 3 days because you are in the early stages of infection...so whats the difference. The fact that double jabbed people are less likely to have severe symptoms and therefore less likely to transmit is also a good point.

  12. 2 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

    So they don't want the tourists back then?

     

    That sort of sentiment is very much outdated in a global world. Thailand has tried to be for Thai's and failed would be a better motto.

     

    Just look around at neighbouring countries - Thailand may well be further down the development route than some but in my opinion, its stalled and others are fast catching up. One is way ahead - Singapore.

     

    'Thailand is for Thai's' - taught in schools and practised by the government will ultimately be the country's downfall - you can't have your cake and eat it.  Where's the cash going to come from for continued development - China?  Thailand needs to learn very quickly that those Chinese loans and investments come with many strings - ropes actually.

     

    I had a couple of days in Vietnam last year and was impressed.  I'll be back there before to long to find out if the islands south and west of Ho Chi Minh are as beautiful as they look in the photos. Others will no doubt be similarily impressed.

     

    There's a strong possibility that Covid 19 marks a point where travellers look elsewhere - if Thailand doesn't change its attitude, it will lose out.

    Ho Chi Minh is so much cooler and quirkier than Bangkok. We literally keep on going just to cruise around, drink coffees and smoke cigarettes (Only place we smoke). The food, the awesome people, wicked niche architecture and boutique hotels, the ability to smoke weed, the road trips, the beaches, the hiking....the list goes on.

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  13. I wouldn't put it past them to be playing a game. Tell everyone it is ok to come, no quarantine and everyone books. Thailand makes money on the bookings and they will just then do their best to persuade you to come and spend more money you were supposed to not have to spend or they will persuade you to just keep on changing the date of your booking so they can keep the money you already spent. I wouldn't put it past them.

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  14. On 10/11/2021 at 10:54 AM, GroveHillWanderer said:

    Which vaccine technology "failed to garner FDA approval for 15 years"?

     

    Because it certainly wasn't mRNA vaccine technology. Although a few companies had conducted clinical trials of mRNA vaccines, none of them had been submitted to the FDA for approval before Pfizer and Moderna came up with their CoVid vaccines.

    To the original post. I do not think it failed FDA approval as it never even got to that stage. Everyone pulled funding because it was a bit of a science fiction. If you can't get your head around the science, think of it like this. We have been using the same vaccine technology since around the 30's, IVV or Inactivated viral vaccines . In almost every other field of industry or whatever you want to compare this to, the technique has moved forward. It is just what we do as a species, we get better, we innovate; there is nothing to be suspicious about it. Props to jets, coal to nuclear, cord telephones to mobiles, gas cars to electric cars, inactivated viral vaccines to mRNA.

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