Caldera
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1 hour ago, elviajero said:Very few ‘westerners’ get denied entry with a Tourist Visa.
What's the benefit of being that vague? Either you know the actual number, then by all means, let us know. Or you don't know it, then your statement is worthless because you cannot back it up.
Bonus question for you, if you don't mind: Let's say I buy an Elite visa. Applying your "denial under section 12.2" logic, what would stop an IO from claiming that I haven't got the "appropriate means" to live in Thailand, a few years down the line? The 500,000 baht (or more) that I've spent on the Elite visa is gone and there's no other mechanism to prove financials. So my guess is that I would be toast, just like those who have been denied entry with tourist visa. Trusting these shifty buggers has become almost impossible.
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3 hours ago, lovesthespicy said:
They must of just changed the rule there in recent weeks. I was just there 3 weeks ago with 7 TV's in recent years in my passport and they didnt say a word to me.
Other factors such as your age and nationality might also matter. I once took a risk in Vientiane, when the general assumption was that they will give you that nasty extra stamp when you're applying for the 3rd or 4th SETV from them. I applied for my 4th, no questions were asked and I didn't get that stamp.
That said, I don't recall earlier reports of Savannakhet (unlike Vientiane) using that stamp at all. So this might well have changed and could be a result of their much higher number of applicants nowadays.
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I doubt that moving provinces is what's the issue here. I use my Thai debit cards in typically 3-4 provinces per month, each month when I'm in Thailand. I've also never heard of anyone else running into that kind of problem. Maybe they're phasing out the type of card you're using or there's another issue with your account.
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Just now, Mitkof Island said:The answer is ZERO! Don,t worry about it ! I was just there the other day. Had all my papers ready i was the fourth in line. Returned 2pm the next day and was done. SUPER EASY !
Nobody questions that it is easy NOW. The OP asked about next January. It might still be the same or things could change. Better be prepared.
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7 minutes ago, Mitkof Island said:why?
London stopped issuing this very type of visa altogether when they introduced the online system. Nobody knows when Savannakhet will start using the same system and if it will have the same effect.
Many other embassies and consulates already require proof of financials. It's not inconceivable that Savannakhet will eventually follow suit.
With all the changes that have been happening, it's just a damn long time till January. Many things can change.
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Sad state of affairs, especially when you consider that this particular visa is not exclusively for people who plan to live in Thailand the whole year round.
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Unfortunately, nobody can tell you with any certainty if it will still be possible to get that visa in Savannakhet come January, without proving financials as it stands now or at all.
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Nice to see the return of that kind of scrutiny. That's desperately needed.
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Quick and easy (partial) fix: Get rid of the muppets that deny entry to tourists at Phuket's airport. That way, at least the few who are still willing to come will be accounted for without fail.
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4 hours ago, marcusarelus said:The guy was not a tourist.
How do you know that, from the comfort of your armchair or barstool? Do you take the immigration chief's word for it? Being a compulsory and accomplished liar is pretty much a job requirement.
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Cry, baby, cry.
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"He said parliament had not been suspended since King Charles I did so during the English Civil War. Charles was eventually executed, in 1649."
There you go, Boris. They will have to bring the hangman back for you.
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Many old and a few less than promising new faces. Combined, they will rob the country blind.
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1 hour ago, pontious said:
All the published emails say roughly the same thing - not one of them 'guarantee's' anything. They will do there best. That is not good enough. They say 'should be able' 'to - not will.
I agree. Big potential headache for those who rely on showing international transfers.
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7 minutes ago, IvorBiggun2 said:Are you a moderator? No. So do not give me advice. Thank you.
If I were a moderator, I would have deleted your nonsensical thread instead of replying. There's a hint.
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7 minutes ago, dbrenn said:
I'm not sure where you're from but I'm English, and we robustly despise our officials. Read the news and you'll no doubt see that in the US, Europe and Australia, officials are also despised in equal measure, so contempt for authority may not by your yardstick be just a Thai thing.
Quite right. "A Thai thing" is going out of your way to buy lunch for the officials you despise.
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1 minute ago, IvorBiggun2 said:
Well, before 20th March 2016 the rule didn't apply. Did anyone knew that before I posted the update? Caldera, did you? Be honest?
I've been knowing that since 2015, back then the upcoming change was widely publicized in an effort to make overstayers leave before the new rules came into effect.
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So what's the update? That's news from 2016 (as stated), and to my knowledge nothing has changed?
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37 minutes ago, ALFREDO said:I believe he could still have a electronic device with which he can produce Techno music and a Laptop.
But can he sale that in the Airport ?
Are you for real?
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17 hours ago, Wizzy said:
1.Above the entry stamp it was written TR0066, is that some kind of a code signifying that I rather not try to enter again?
Probably your flight number if it's written above the entry stamp, maybe you can check again (their handwriting can be hard to decipher).
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3 hours ago, Joe Mcseismic said:
A visa from an embassy, or consulate does not guarantee the right to entry. The final decision is up to the Immigration department.
This is the same for every country.
At face value, there's nothing wrong with what you wrote. Immigration does need the power to deny entry, at least as a last line of defense.
What differs from one country to the next is how responsibly a country's immigration officers use that power and how well immigration and consular service are integrated. I don't think that the Thai authorities do a decent job in that regard. In the OP's case and similar other cases, I think it's obvious that they've inflicted unnecessary hardship.
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6 hours ago, dbrenn said:
I'd have still invited them to a modest lunch as a courtesy, and (if they accepted my invitation) eaten just a token amount myself if I was already full.
Would have been a small price to pay for some priceless goodwill, as they tell their colleagues and bosses how nice you were.
I can see why you were a good fit to apply for Thai citizenship. I genuinely don't mean that in a negative way - some of us adapt easier to Thai customs than others.
That said, many Thais I know despise their officials even more than I do. While they wouldn't openly show disrespect for obvious reasons, I think what you've described goes above and beyond even by Thai standards.
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Let's hope that they will eventually be tried and punished for their countless crimes. Something major would need to change to make that happen, obviously.
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3 hours ago, murraynz said:
and thai immigration, also expect us to wear long trousers etc , to show respect..
I do dress respectfully whenever I visit immigration. I also have politeness in my heart when I arrive there - I just want to get things done smoothly and as long as they don't ruin it, I will be top of the "polite and soft-spoken" class throughout. I would do the same when visiting a government office in my home country or anywhere else in the world. I extend the same basic courtesy to Thai officials, that just comes naturally to me.
Buying lunch or booze for government officials, on the other hand, is not something I've ever done or would ever consider doing. If that ever becomes a problem, I will change countries, not my attitude.
Problems at Savannakhet and Border July 2019 Report
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I agree - and that doesn't exactly reassure me. Easy to see what could happen further down the line.