problemfarang

15 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

This from the Thailand Pass FAQ's (read the last paragraph).

Source: https://consular.mfa.go.th/th/content/thailand-pass-faqs-2

thank you

Hi,

i read somewhere (cannot find now where) that if you are out of thailand (for visit home country or else) and coming back to thailand, if you have a work permit and non-b visa and if you have social security number (thai government insurance -that white small paper-) provided from your work you DONT need to make any covid insurance when entering to thailand. is it true?

Also i couldnt find anything about non-b and work permit holders or maybe i missed it in this forum. Can someone provide what we need to enter thailand if we have non-b and work permit.

Im planning to visit my country for 2 weeks in April or May. And i dont want any surprises when coming back. 

To be honest if you are married OR retired, you can use any good agency no problem. If non of them, many agencies will not or cannot help you because actually there is nothing they can do. 

When you use an agency, most of them will try to do things as legal as they can do. For example if you are married they will ask all documents, photos, etc. which you need to give to immigration anyway. The only thing here is the money which they can provide but you cannot. Thats all about the agencies. For example they cannot help if you are overstay 2-3 years. Which creates a question like then why i use agency.. So you can say agencies can only help you about the money (400K or 800K) thats all. So again if you are not married or retired, im not sure if you can find an agency which can help you. Maybe they will suggest you some ED visas but again thats something you can o without their help.

thats been said. 

I will try to explain you something about agencies. yes, they can solve he problem and again if you are married or retired. But the thing is... you will be never free again.. Always have to do your visa with them. whatever they say you need to do.. im using an agency and im really happy, shes doing everything no headache and i suggested her to many people in this form, some used her and they are so happy. BUT i always feel not ok about this. because at the end of the day its not legal and there is a chance you will end up in a situation you really not want. When everything back normal the first thing im going to do is leave the country and get a new non-b and come back. Trust me soon or later you will feel the pain and weight on your shoulders if you use agency. At first it seems great. i know... 

I have a friend used agency to extend his non-o thai wife. they divorced and he is still on non-o extension.. he is having this stress moments every night thinking what if his ex-wife gets angry and tell things to the immigration?! because wife started to complain about the house they bought and she gave to him when divorcing but now started to ask to pay the full bank loan and of course he hasnt got that money... i know you are not kind of in this situation but the thing is.. YOU MAY soon or later.. who knows. but i gave you this example just to show my point about agencies. its like when you are in, you cannot out that easy... 

dont get me wrong im not blaming any agencies. all im trying to say is its not the best way and you will face it soon or later. 

my suggestion is dont use agency if you can. find a job.. im sure you can do teaching.. 

good luck

17 hours ago, noodleslayer said:

I should be pretty much fluent after 11 months of classes. Could you explain what non-teaching jobs I could do once I am fluent in Thai? In case it matters, my bachelor's is in Management.

About this you can apply international companies such as companies in sri racha, chonburi area. Have many transportation and trading companies there. But the thing is they already habe someone in that position from the company from their country. So its not easy for you just walk in and give your cv and wait for a chance... 

Or you can apply for thai international company but its also not that easy. You csn find a company doing business with usa or other. And try your luck.

Tbh your chances are really not good to find a job in thailand. Many companies alreqdy have their men from their HQ already. 

You can also try a position as HR. I know 1 2 company their hr are farangs because they are oroginally chinese companies. 

If i know correct a thai company only can hire a foreigner IF he has something special like thai cannot or not at best level. Which means like hiring a foreigner to teach english. 

Your best shot would be a manager position if he has a hotel or likewise. For car wash obviously no need a farang to hire. Security, guard.. no way as you probably know it already even before creating this post. 

Also your friend must holding a document from the government or labor office giving him a permission to hire a foreigner. This is not easy to obtain for a thai company if its not working international or a language school... 

If your friend is reqlly close to you tell him to show you as a partner. That will work for sure. I know someone did that. 

Again another thing is even your friend has the dpcument saying he can hire farangs, and hires you... you need to prove that your elite in this field so he needs you. For example if he hires you as a cook labor office will ask you to prove it, if your degree is engineering.. they will reject your work permit. You must be holding a related degree. I think you get the point what im trying to say.

So actually you have 2 options:

Tech or find a company you can hire you in your skill or training or degree. 

15 hours ago, foodyfoodie said:

Thank you. May I know if I am in Thailand with my non-o marriage visa and find a job in Thailand. Can I apply work permit and all the document finished in Thailand? Or Do I need to come back to my country/ Thai embassy in my country to finish the document?

If you have non-o you can find a job, can get a work permit and you can extend your visa one of the method, thai wife or work.

No need to leave the country all can be done in thailand

UPDATE:

Went to hospital and 5 minutes they updated my app. 

23 hours ago, Tazmo said:

Can someone please advise me about the Mor Prom app?

when I download the app, it’s in Thai/ English, and asks for an ID

well since I don’t have a Thai ID, I used my passport number, that didn’t work.

then I tried my vaccination number and that didn’t work either!

Any idea what I am doing wrong? Thanks 

Hi,

You need to click on register then put the number starting with 60000 thats your number. Then create a password

UPDATE 1:

Yes, they indeed replied real quick and told me only the hospital can use or change the vaccine records. And they are only responsible to put that data into the app.

So, yes.. a trip to hospital. This is something i dont think thai people can solve on the phone. But just will call the hospital and try. 

Will update.

12 hours ago, Caldera said:

Send an email to [email protected] with an explanation of the problem and attach the vaccination certificate from the hospital. They might be able to correct your data, especially if it hasn't been updated due to a technical issue. Worth a shot before venturing to the hospital again - they did help me with a minor issue with my data, but I'm not sure if they can add a vaccination record that is missing altogether.

Sent an email, waiting for reply. I will update. Thnx

thnx guys

2 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

How does that feel? 

you are a clever boy, figure that out ????

hi guys,

well i had my 3rd shot 2 weeks ago. Other 2 shots were updated in my MorProm app no problem. but my 3rd shot not updated yet. All my friends at the work (farang) updated already. This 3rd shot was not at the same place where we got other 2 shots. Obviously the hospital made a mistake and didnt gave my info to where it should be. 

I tried to contact to hospital and of course they have no clue what im asking or trying to tell.. i just cannot understand why there is no english speaker (at least basic level) in a hospital.. anyway They keep giving me some different numbers and blah blah same story. So most likely a visit to the hospital soon. 

but i was wondering if there is any other way to let the MorProm know that i already got the 3rd shot and i already have the paper and photo from the hospital. I tried to use the app where you can send the info to the app to correct the mistake but of course its not working. so, is there any other way to update this app rather then a visit to hospital?

thanks

are you a thai citizen as asked by DrJack or you are feeling like a thai citizen? 2 very different things.

If you are not a thai citizen, are you working? If you are working and if you have government insurance provided from your work i believe you can come to thailand but 5 days quarantine (no need to stay all 5 days at your hotel, just need to be there 1st and 5th day). if you dont have that insurance you have to get a covid insurance equal to $50.000. Dont forget to take your work permit with you too. a covid test at a hospital before 74 hrs arrival is advised for both countries. Nothing to lose to have it just to be safe just in case if they ask. 

If you are a thai citizen, then no anything extra but i believe again 5 days quarantine (no need to stay all 5 days at your hotel, just need to be there 1st and 5th day).

1 hour ago, Husain Tula said:

Are you still looking?

civil or mechanical engineers

Thanks for the info

This morning one of my friends told me that because of covid now we can change our non-o (wife) to non-b (work) at CW immigration.

i was wondering if this is true or not. If its true, wife should come to the immigration or not.

thanks

Hi, 

One of my friends has non-o visa with work permit working at a university in bangkok. Our wives working at the same place. He extended his visa for 1 year using having a wife method. Now he wants to extend using work method. He checked the list that @ubonjoe (thank you) provided in my other post and told me that his friends had to get a criminal check from the local police office. They never left the kingdom so it took their 10 min to get the report. Also he told me that immigration asked some teachers' degrees to approvment or something like that from the minister of affairs. Also approvmebt from their embassy ( that the university is real, or something like that) But all these things are not listed in the list provided and also this list is from thai government website. So he confused as i am. He is working there for 4 5 years now.

At this point the for sure things he knows:

- copy of his degrees (in his own country language, officially translation to english using a translator from his embassy) no embassy stamp but a stamp shows its officially translated. 

- copy of transcript

- copy of his passport, first page and extension, visa

- no need wife to go with him ( because extension reason is work)

- copy of work permit

- documents from his university

- last year tax papers

Could someone add what else needed, such as criminal report or else needed or not... that minister of affair thing is needed or not or what ever else needed not mentioning in that list. 

Thanks a lot

Maybe you can also bring any driving license with you... Work permit... anything you can think of related to your name... 

please update us about what happened.

thanks

7 hours ago, rs243 said:

Also, my wife has lost her copy of the Marriage Certificate. Do we need to get a new one or is mine enough?

yours enough, but i strongly suggest you to go to a local police station and fill a missing form. keep the report and dont lose it

OP mentioned its a chain of hotels. lived 10 yrs in KK the only hotel that big i know in khon kaen is Sofitel, old pullman. I dont know any chain of hotels in KK. And im pretty sure they know how to do tm30 or report. if thats your hotel leave and stay in other hotel. There are many better hotels than that one. if not, i would move to another hotel again. obviously it might create future problems.

10 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Havent for a few months now but I used to drive up to Nakhon Ratchasima atleast once a month (Wife's girlfriend parents live there)..... always got stopped, never had a request for passport.

 

where in Isaan do they ask you ?

well, normally im in khon kaen area. but i travelled isan lot for 10 years now. In bangkok last 6 years now. time to time still going to khon kaen area to check my empty house and other isan cities. Im pretty sure they will stop me for this or that reason as you mentiones. Tbh sometimes (especially like 10-12 years ago) they jsut smile ask me where i am from and let me go. But later they started to ask driver license they check it and then they ask my passport. they look at the first page and check other pages with empty eyes. and in seconds give me back all. there are times not asked passport but i would say 80% they asked my passport. I have no problem showing them. not bothers me at all.

To work with your Non-o marriage visa,

-get a multi entry non-o marriage visa from thai embassy (i think its 5000 baht) get multi so you will have time to arrange things.

-you need to extend it 1 year in thailand at the immigration using 2 ways: min income 40K baht (thai work salary or from your country) or 400.000 in the bank. the rules are different. so check them

second after extension with your non-o marriage your work will provide you documents and you can get your work permit. so you can work with your visa

thats how im doing in thailand. non-o marriage extension based on my income from my thai company. 

if you dont have or cannot do any way of extensions... you can contact with an agency. It will cost you from 25K to 30K baht. and they will do the magic. 

well technically and officially, your thai friend will be responsible from you and your acts. as the word says 'guarantor' your friend confirms that you are ok to get this visa, he knows you and put himself into the line for you. If you do something and disappear they will find him and try to get the info about you from him. thats all

4 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said:

Show to who?

 

I don't believe this.

4 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

Nonsense.

it is true. Whenever they stopped me in Isaan area the first ask my driver license and then passport. They only look where i am from thats all. 

4 hours ago, Tayida said:

So they ask for your passport. Take a look at the id page or even at the visa? Thank you.

 

They only look where i am from thats all. they look pages too but with empty eyes. They dont know that visa details.