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58 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:
And those Covid vaccines that produce anti-bodies aren't?
Whoops! Your ignorance is showing........
Ok, to spell it out for you, those vaccines have a long tested, proven track record of providing higher efficacy from their targeted illnesses than do the current crop of COVID-19 vaccines.
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14 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:
If an anti-vaxer gives birth, explain to the mother that her beliefs are respected and notify her that her baby won't get vaccinations for Smallpox, Polio and Measles.
But those are TRUE vaccines. Apples and oranges.
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2 hours ago, placeholder said:
But cdemundo never contended hospitals should refuse someone treatment because they refused vaccination. Just that morally speaking, if you refuse to be vaccinated, you shouldn't use the hospital. Not legally speaking, but morally speaking.
Morally, I pay for treatment, I get treated. I'm from the US so YMMV (Your Morals May Vary).
There are no long-term studies for these "vaccines". I'm a long-term thinker. And now the original control group's are getting vaccinated so we may never know the true value of these vaccines. Morally, I'm in the clear.
At this point, it almost seems that with all the vaccinated breakthrough cases, vaccinated transmissions, and deaths of those vaccinated, that the vaccinated just want the unvaccinated to go down with them.
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This site has devolved into an extension of the MSM. Quite sad actually.
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33 minutes ago, cdemundo said:No. I am not saying that anyone should be denied medical care.
I guess you failed the reading comprehension portion as well.
I am asking people to voluntarily decline medical care, since they are claiming it isn't needed since COVID is a hoax, or the vaccines are fake, or healthy people can't get COVID as nauseam.
Are you willing to make that promise? (By the way promises posted here are non-binding).
Cuz if the things you are saying are true, you should have no problem.
No, I wouldn't voluntarily decline. I never stated vaccines are fake, nor covid is a hoax, nor healthy people can't get covid. If you think I did, show me where.
My issue is the whole "don't use up hospital resources because you made a bad choice" argument. Hospitals use their resources for mostly bad choices everyday.
I worked for one for 35 years. I expect treatment when I show up; vaxed or not. And if they're full, put me at the back of the line.
Presently no plans to be vaxed unless required for flights.
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14 minutes ago, cdemundo said:
If you deny the existence or danger of COVID or need for vaccination you should have no reason to hesitate to make this promise.
Has nothing to do with your other examples.
Which make no sense at all, you probably didn't do too well on the analogies sections of standardized test when you were in school.
Choose not to vaccinate. no problem.
Don't use limited medical resources if you get COVID.
Actually you should read your quote first to see who needs to retake their test.
I don't deny either. My "dumb" choice should be treated the same as all other dumb choices. The healthcare system is there to treat ALL people; even those who make bad choices. You wouldn't treat a skateboarder who broke his wrist, or a heart attack victim who ate too many steaks? There are a million choices that you make that can put you into a hospital bed. Or did you want to control all of those choices also?
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19 minutes ago, cdemundo said:
Lovely.
But you didn't answer my question.
"Just curious, if you were to catch COVID would you be willing to forgo medical treatment to prove your point?
I think that would be quite sporting of you."
A tired argument. Should skate boarders stop skating? Should skiers stop skiing? Should red meat eaters stop eating red meat? Many things can put you into the hospital. Life is about choices AND about individual freedom to make them. At least, it used to be.
Vaxed can transmit virus. Unvaxed can transmit virus. Nothing in life is 100%; live accordingly.
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Why go to the cinema?
Because if you don't have an Atmos sound system at home, it's the only place you'll be able to hear and understand the dialog track. Playing 99% of downloaded content requires ear-splitting fx/music track volume levels to even begin to hear the dialog mix. Too loud for my neighbors I'm sure, and me; I'm in a condo. So, I use subtitles always. Maybe I'm just old.
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4 hours ago, phetchy said:
Also, as there is no tea money involved in 90 day reporting, they would be happy to relinquish a non-PG Tips part of their duties?
I'm fairly certain that tea money IS involved in 90 day reporting. I wouldn't swear on my mother, but as I was being processed at the 90 day counter yesterday, I saw someone reach over me and hand the worker a passport with, what looked to be, 100฿. The worker put the money in a box, processed the new passport, then returned to processing mine. Could be I'm mistaken.
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2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:
Very patronising. 10/10, have a gold star!
What am I missing? If he meant it to be patronizing, I didn't take it that way.
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4 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:
My point being covid death numbers are in your face daily in the news, everyday deaths by region are posted whereas you have to dig to find numbers related to vaccine deaths. What is so hard to understand?
Exactly. Without statistics on vaccine deaths, whether known or probable, how can say, a 35 y.o. woman, make an informed decision. Could be chance of death in her age group unvaccinated is .00005%, but death from vaccination .00005.5%. Who knows? But regardless if she dies, she should vaccinate to protect the tribe. This, even though the vaccines may limit, but do not prevent the spread of covid.
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6 hours ago, Mutt Daeng said:
I know its too late for you this time, buy maybe you could try entering all your data manually from scratch and not use the autofill function of the browser. I had a problem with autofill but when I entered everything manually, I was successful.
Tried that also, no luck. Was thinking maybe they forced an in person visit after an extension where I stopped using an agent. More than likely though, probably just a bug in their online system.
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8 hours ago, Bill Poster said:1. what about backing up all the daily changes to the hospitals computer records.
2. what about the well known Thai electric power interruptions to the hospital building that may
affect the computer system.3. what about the ever present computer virus / ransom possibility's.
4. what about when the computer fails through miss management / age and physically needs upgrading .
5. what about a malicious action by a hospital computer technician ( disgruntled employee ) .
6. whats would be the approximate number of hospital staff involved on a daily basis keeping the hospitals computers up and running.
7. Is it possible that the people involved in maintaining the hospitals computers , may not actually be physically be at the hospital.
I don't know about Thailand, but if you're interested here's how it's done in the States, using an example from my previous employer having 2 500 bed hospitals, about 10 clinics, and multiple specialty outpatient services all using the same system. Skip to next post if you're looking for Thailand specific methods.
1. Transactions are backed up continuously and entire databases every night, usually to multiple locations to be used for backup, reporting, training systems, and testing systems. Recovery is down to within a minute or two of a failure. Databases and online systems are mirrored or shared to a 2nd off site location and always available for HA; high availability.
2. Both datacenters run battery backup systems. However, the 20 or so minutes of power in these systems running big diesel generators is not to provide continued service, but to allow a failover to the 2nd datacenter, or clean shutdown of all systems if both locations have lost power.
3. Viruses are a big threat. Healthcare IT departments spend a bunch on security consultants, email anti-virus filters, multiple firewalls, PC anti-virus. Additionally, much is spent to automate server and workstation bug fixes, software, and OS updates.
4. Equipment and software aging is an ongoing maintenance, planning, and budgeting issue. IT staff work internally with vendors, and sometimes specialized consultants, ie storage systems architecture, to define long term goals and needs. Due to budget constraints, there is usually some compromising going on, but generally minimal compromising on important 24/7 systems.
There are downtimes. For example when testing failover or installing new raid array systems, etc. But these are planned with the medical staff during low patient volume times, and few and far between. Our Electronic Medical Record system, Epic, provided some apps and utilities to minimize downtime recovery time; ie patient data capture on specific PC's synced later to the primary system.
5. "Disgruntled employees" is a weak point at most IT shops I'm sure. You try to minimize the impact any one person could have by limiting their access to only what they need. Also monitoring that access and other activities; websites, etc. Also, good IT shops will have staff trained to cover equivalent jobs so the loss of one does not negatively affect (too much) the business. In real life, some employees have too much access and some employees know more than others.
6. The system I worked for listed above, had about 150 full time IT employees (maybe 3500 - 4000 regular employees, medical staff, HR, education, etc.). This 150 included those involved in training the software used by the medical staff, designers of each piece of the software; ie Admitting, Orders, Pharmacy, Lab, etc. And then the technical side, PC techs, HELPDESK, network, storage, server, interfaces, etc. We would occasionally hire outside consultants to provide additional help for large projects or for projects requiring unavailable skillsets.
7. Yes, our systems did not have physical bodies on site during off hours unless we were performing a hardware or software upgrade. All support is done remotely via OnCall SMS messaging and remote access software. And now with covid there are very few bodies on site during daytime hours either. This I'm told because I retired right before we knew Corona wasn't just a beer. My coworkers are now working from home 90% of the time. Some happy about that and some not.
Our 2 datacenters were not located at the hospitals. The primary datacenter was close to one of the hospitals, 2 city blocks, but the secondary was 10km away. Not real important, but relevant.
Sorry if I rambled on, but what else do ya do when the bars and restaurants are shut?!
Edit: At 150 IT employees, we were considered lean for our size compared to the industry average.
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As a previous poster stated, I've also been using the website successfully, but just renewed my extension in July and now it doesn't work for me. All of my info is the same as it's always been, but the few times I got past the first screen, just got a blank page; and yes, I waited. Other times got the pop-up on the first page to go to immigration. Tried over 3 days. Chrome saves all my form data, so I know I'm doing the same as I've always done. Also tried Edge.
Anyway, went to immigration today and got my 90 day slip. Whatever.
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I'm not antivax, but I am antiplacebo.
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4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:
Just don't expect OTHER people to protect you.
I agree, but unfortunately, this is the opposite of what many people have come to expect.
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4 hours ago, Mickeymaus said:
I guess you got a piece of paper with the date on it when you have to report. Normally there is described what you need. And don't forget to bring them this paper too.
It does state, but it's ambiguous. Something like show your bankbook and then later mentioning copies, so I will make copies, thanks.
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For the 800k check, did they just look at your bank book, or did you have to make copies? My first one is coming up on the 18th.
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In a normal flu year in the U.S., say 2018-2019, 2450 18-49 year olds die from the flu.
Stop the fear mongering of these onesy-twosy sob cases. I don't remember reading about these deaths in 2018, why weren't you posting them then?
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6 hours ago, likerdup1 said:
Yea, it's always that damn media pushing everyone to do the right thing. Such inconsiderate numb skulls ...
Why would anyone NOT want to be vaccinated. I assure you that anyone reading this has had at least 2 or more vaccines in their lives.. Polio and all the childhood vaccines for starters. I get a flu vax every year. Hasn't turned me into a child eating American democrat robot yet. Proud to understand the importance of vaccination and not go along with the social media BS conspiracy theories.
Those are actual vaccines; ie they prevent the disease. Covid vaccines do not.
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Actually, the thread title is false. The article never states the lady (deceased) regretted not being vaccinated, only the husband was quoted.
I'm sure we'll be seeing a lot more of these as the media push to get everyone vaccinated. Lifelong media bias, find the one heartbreaking case vs the norm to try and push your agenda.
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6 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:
Does anyone believe that this government will do as asked, I sure dont.
In this case, I hope not.
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19 hours ago, BritManToo said:
Sounds like every American I've ever encountered.
Sep here. I know your just taking the p..s here so this <deleted>/<deleted> will ignore this comment and look forward to having a cold one someday without our masks on.
Bob's your uncle. Cheers.
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Isn't this, link below, the PCR test required to fly these days or am I ignorant and this is something else? If it IS the current testing method taking place, doesn't removing it from the FDA approval list basically say it doesn't work? Why isn't this being reported on a larger scale? Educate me please.
Who will never vaccinate except if forced to for visa reasons ? and do you think that they will force us ?
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Sorry, neither of those links addresses the comparison I made to actual vaccines. Show me where they work as good as the polio, smallpox, and measles vaccines. You can't. Also show me the fact checkers that don't use the words, "may", "should", "could", "might", "possibly", etc.
There's also a yearly "vaccine" for the flu that works half-as..d too; never had it.
How many "boosters" per year are you willing to endure for the rest of your so called life to prevent your 1.5% chance of dying? At some point your idea of living is just a banal existence.