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7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Australia has a very low rate of infection. Testing the vaccine in a country riddled with virus is a bit like trying to eat only the holes in Swiss cheese.

How is this going to be tested? 
Will they infect the Australians after the vaccination with SARS-CoV-2 ?
If so, then New York should be no problem.

Australia does so much to keep the virus out, why bring it in?

4 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

Johnson dithered, probably being advised by Cummings until too late.

Exactly the same outcome as the USA. 

Many deaths could have been avoided by the swift action taken by many other countries,  particularly those with female leaders as figures now prove.

Shame on both Johnson and Trump. Both countries deserve better leadership. 

Johnson should have followed the examples set by Taiwan, South Korea and Japan - no lockdowns and all under control.

On 5/26/2020 at 9:11 AM, Eric Loh said:

I am sure the protestors are not duly concerned if they are not terrorists. 

Sure, we have seen at the Tiananmen Square incident 1989 that the CCP would never treat protesters as terrorists, right?
 

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By the spring of 1989 there was growing sentiment among university students and others in China for political and economic reform. The country had experienced a decade of remarkable economic growth and liberalization, and many Chinese had been exposed to foreign ideas and standards of living. In addition, although the economic advances in China had brought new prosperity to many citizens, it was accompanied by price inflation and opportunities for corruption by government officials. In the mid-1980s the central government had encouraged some people (notably scientists and intellectuals) to assume a more active political role, but student-led demonstrations calling for more individual rights and freedoms in late 1986 and early 1987 caused hard-liners in the government and Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to suppress what they termed “bourgeois liberalism.” One casualty of this tougher stance was Hu Yaobang, who had been the CCP general secretary since 1980 and who had encouraged democratic reforms; in January 1987 he was forced to resign his post.

Tiananmen Square: May 1989 demonstratorsDemonstrators gathered around the “Goddess of Democracy” statue in Tiananmen Square, Beijing, late May 1989.Jeff Widener/AP Images

The catalyst for the chain of events in the spring of 1989 was the death of Hu in mid-April; Hu was transformed into a martyr for the cause of political liberalization. On the day of his funeral (April 22), tens of thousands of students gathered in Tiananmen Square demanding democratic and other reforms. For the next several weeks, students in crowds of varying sizes—eventually joined by a wide variety of individuals seeking political, social, and economic reforms—gathered in the square. The initial government response was to issue stern warnings but take no action against the mounting crowds in the square. Similar demonstrations rose up in a number of other Chinese cities, notably Shanghai, Nanjing, Xi’an, Changsha, and Chengdu. However, the principal outside media coverage was in Beijing, in part because a large number of Western journalists had gathered there to report on the visit to China by Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev in mid-May. Shortly after his arrival, a demonstration in Tiananmen Square drew some one million participants and was widely broadcast overseas.

 

Meanwhile, an intense debate ensued among government and party officials on how to handle the mounting protests. Moderates, such as Zhao Ziyang (Hu Yaobang’s successor as party general secretary), advocated negotiating with the demonstrators and offering concessions. However, they were overruled by hard-liners led by Chinese premier Li Peng and supported by paramount elder statesman Deng Xiaoping, who, fearing anarchy, insisted on forcibly suppressing the protests.

 

During the last two weeks of May, martial law was declared in Beijing, and army troops were stationed around the city. However, an attempt by the troops to reach Tiananmen Square was thwarted when Beijing citizens flooded the streets and blocked their way. Protesters remained in large numbers in Tiananmen Square, centring themselves around a plaster statue called “Goddess of Democracy,” near the northern end of the square. Western journalists also maintained a presence there, often providing live coverage of the events.

 

Crackdown And Aftermath

By the beginning of June, the government was ready to act again. On the night of June 3–4, tanks and heavily armed troops advanced toward Tiananmen Square, opening fire on or crushing those who again tried to block their way. Once the soldiers reached the square, a number of the few thousand remaining demonstrators there chose to leave rather than face a continuation of the confrontation. By morning the area had been cleared of protesters, though sporadic shootings occurred throughout the day.

 

The military also moved in forcibly against protesters in several other Chinese cities, including Chengdu, but in Shanghai the mayor, Zhu Rongji (later to become the premier of China), was able to negotiate a peaceful settlement.

 

By June 5 the military had secured complete control, though during the day there was a notable, widely reported incident involving a lone protester momentarily facing down a column of tanks as it advanced on him near the square.

Tiananmen Square: man blocking tanks A Chinese man temporarily blocking a line of tanks on June 5, 1989, the day after demonstrators were forcibly cleared from Beijing's Tiananmen Square.

Source: https://www.britannica.com/event/Tiananmen-Square-incident

If I would live in Hong Kong, I would have no illusions about the CCP not sending the tanks again, to stop the protesters.

17 minutes ago, Emdog said:

I can guarantee 100% that if you drink enough chlorine you won't get the virus and if have it already the virus sickness won't get worse

Please specify how much is "enough chlorine"?

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The doctor also revealed that coronavirus is indeed a virus

Wow, what a revelation! This will make global news!

I don't know if RT.com (official Russian English News) should be trusted, but they claim that this was sponsored by the Bill Gates Foundation:

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US biotech firm Novavax begins Covid-19 vaccine trials on Australian volunteers after getting $388mn from Bill Gates-backed fund
 

Novavax is testing a new coronavirus vaccine on human subjects for the first time, launching a phase one clinical trial with a massive grant from an agency founded by Bill Gates, kicking off a storm of concerns online.
 

The Maryland-based pharma company has begun its trial, which will dose some 130 Australian participants with the new inoculation, hoping to see results as early as July and proceed to the second phase.

Source: https://www.rt.com/news/489738-novavax-covid-vaccine-trial/

RT might refer to this news release on the novavax website: http://ir.novavax.com/news-releases/news-release-details/novavax-receive-388-million-funding-cepi-covid-19-vaccine

What I don't understand is why the US company (Gaithersburg, MD) is testing on Australians?
Wouldn't the US, for example New York, make more sense?

On 5/25/2020 at 10:19 PM, Tony125 said:

Dr. Birx said there's 'clear scientific evidence' masks help.

She also promised to research the bleach injection and UV-light in body proposals of her boss, right when he made them, in the daily Cover briefing. (Astonishingly she could keep a calm face while doing so).

There is no law forbidding to use the original name as nickname.

Certainly it would sound more interesting than the usual Dick, Tom or Harry ???? 

7 minutes ago, 5633572526 said:

Then why are we still under curfew with travel restrictions and so many things closed. Do you think the government is just enjoying its people out of work and starving. Or is this just a bunch of power mad generals mostly interested in eliminating political opponents.

Apparently you nailed it.

5 hours ago, Bender Rodriguez said:

1984 has arrived

Even more saddening than that many parts of 1984 have arrived is that so many don't even care, give away their freedom so easily.

For the ones not familiar with the meaning of 1984:

 

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Nineteen Eighty-Four: A Novel, often published as 1984, is a dystopian novel by English novelist George Orwell. It was published on 8 June 1949 by Secker & Warburg as Orwell's ninth and final book completed in his lifetime. Thematically, Nineteen Eighty-Four centres on the consequences of government over-reach, totalitarianism, mass surveillance, and repressive regimentation of all persons and behaviours within society.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

A "must read" in my humble opionion.

6 hours ago, soalbundy said:

Anyone who has a facebook account or owns a smartphone shouldn't complain about surveillance. I'm considered by some to live in the dark ages because I don't have an FB account nor do I have a smartphone, If somebody wants to reach me they can write me an email that is as far as I will go in the new tech age, the plus points are that I get very few adverts and no spam, I am unknown so to speak.

A secure messenger such as Signal, Wire, Telegram, etc (of course not WhatsApp or Messenger) might be a better, safer choice than good old email.

Some of them, such as Wire or Telegram, can also be used on the Desktop / a PC or Mac, or Linux, or through web browsers. You might need your non-smart phone only to receive an activation code SMS.

3 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Too many Google virologists and born again epidemiologists is one one of the core issues with the current epidemic too.  The official 'experts' have created economic havoc based on incorrect data, and scared people have allowed them to lead everyone over the cliff.

So true!

Thanks!

1 hour ago, Sujo said:

Do some of you also argue with police that the law is stupid and you wont abide by it?

Yes, sure, when the law is indeed stupid, and astonishingly often the policeman eventually agrees and lets me go. 
(Disclaimer: I wear seatbelts, helmets, don‘t play with my phone while driving and don‘t drive drunk, so the above is only happening for the stupid laws.)

3 minutes ago, mikebike said:

You do not need to do an autopsy to test a body for covid.

You need an autopsy to determine the real cause of death.

1 minute ago, Dmaxdan said:

I agree. It astonishes me that some people believe that the mandatory wearing of face masks was implemented solely to protect themselves, and not the other members of the general public.  

Imagine sneezing or coughing in a public place whilst not wearing a mask. Under the current climate you are liable to get lynched! 

If you would have read the original article then you would have noticed that the man never claimed that the masks where to protect himself, and he would refuse to protect himself.

9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No.

It is not correct.

He may not feel sick.

But he still might be infected.

Which means he would then be infecting others.

Wearing a mask reduces the chances of that.

Legal or not, he has no moral or ethical "right" to do that.

Is this a defense of the Thai bashing which I criticized in my post? I don’t see the connection though. Please specify what this reply has to do with my post, the one you are quoting. 

Oh no, these irresponsible people, they are causing the second wave - NOT.

1 hour ago, beavenlen said:

Ermmm! so when did they open the borders or permit incoming flights. did i miss a few weeks.

Did you notice this is about Cambodia? Unlike Thailand, Incoming flight were not forbidden there. Otherwise, it looks like you missed some news: