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On 8/2/2019 at 10:33 AM, JDGRUEN said:

Has anyone else seen this option? Does anyone know if the option is chosen for the funds transfer... what happens on the other end here in Thailand at bank?

A similar option is also now available on the website.

9 hours ago, lesmac said:

Normal unusable Thai web page/site, after 30 minutes I  gave up as it would not allow me to enter where to register and therefor I'm unable to submit the form

It auto populates (for me) when the address fields for Province, District and Sub District have been completed.

On 8/2/2019 at 10:09 AM, ThaiBunny said:

Can you point me to this? I'm reading the METV visa additional information section on a couple of Thai consulates (Canberra, Melbourne) and they state "Copy of updated bank statement providing of adequate finances (THB 200,000 per person)" - nothing about 6 months (or any duration), nothing else about monies including "pension or earned income"

On 8/2/2019 at 10:43 AM, Briggsy said:

UK.

I got one in the UK (Consulate in Glasgow) a fortnight ago and there was no time requirement for money in the bank.

On 7/24/2019 at 10:02 AM, SailingHome said:

Thanks all. I think I have it sorted. Chat more in NOV.

Please tell us how you sorted in a matter of hours something which has been frustrating many posters for months?

On 7/24/2019 at 12:33 AM, ChipButty said:

The yellow book is not compulsory yes I know it's for a farang, 

Sorry, your post asked who would do it under particular circumstances and I was suggesting how to do it yourself.

Even if not compulsory, if it's available it may support any application if submitted, maybe if a chanote or Land Reg docs aren't available.  It definitely won't help anything if it's left in a drawer.

On 7/24/2019 at 1:03 AM, mtls2005 said:

Just waiting for some first-hand reports of success before jumping on this one.

Well not quite a report of success, but here's how I fared last night.

Opened Android App on phone and selected Arrival Card, acknowledged Ts & Cs and proceeded to data fill page.  Chose the option to read the MRZ on my passport and the camera came on.  It appeared to draw boxes round each of the target lines in the MRZ, but when pic taken it came back with invalid data and returned to the data entry page.  Every few attempts it put me right back to the Ts & Cs page.

On one occasion it read successfully and I briefly saw the data fields populated, but it jumped back to the Ts & Cs,  and on re-entering the data had gone.

Filled it all in manually or by selecting from the choices displayed, got to the end and submitted it all to get an invalid data error message, but no indication of the error.  Tried removing all non-compulsory fields and changing capitilsation on entries etc and after several attempts eventually got it submitted successfully, but I don't know which exact edit fixed it for me.

The message at the end showed an image and the form number (mid 20s) and a message it would be emailed to me (so I never grabbed the image).

No email received yet (around 14 hours later) so planning on filling a form in on the flight this weekend.

I would mark it about 2 out of 10 from my experience.

PS.  I also ran it on my Window laptop to see if it could grab the MRZ image using that but similar results so didn't go any further.

Mine was a 268K .jpg file.  I got some printed the other day and it passed the UK passport dimension checks, and also gave a pass when uploading to the Thai evisa site for the UK.

8 hours ago, ExpatNP said:

Do you have a link to the 90 Day Online site at all?

https://extranet.immigration.go.th/fn90online/online/tm47/TM47Action.do

19 minutes ago, ToddinChonburi said:

Most online 90 day reporting doesn't work so why would you trust this.

Nothing much to lose and a backup in place so why not try it?

1 minute ago, Martyp said:

My condo landlord tried to get the juristic office to do it and they forgot or didn’t know how or didn’t want. She ended going to immigration herself. In Bangkok you can self file if you bring your lease and enter your name on the TM30 form as the possessor.

Unfortunately I won't have a lease as it's through a "friend of a friend" arrangement otherwise that could be a solution for me too if the juristic office refuses.

1 hour ago, etsllc said:

The cal for your B'Day only allows for current year. would not let me input data by hand.

I get the screen shown here when I tap on the box for DoB and can scroll through month, day and year.  Do you get anything similar?  I should get my visa tomorrow so will probably try this out for the first time, although I think I'll probably complete a regular one on the flight too, just in case.

50 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

If someone rents a house and the owners dont live here and the owner is a farang who would do it then? 

I was in that position recently and was advised here one potential route was to ask the juristic office if they could do it.  I didn't pursue it as I didn't need to go to immigration, but I'm back again next week and will be in the same position.

I think if the owner is a farang he'll have a yellow book (?) and maybe a chanote and if you can get signed copies of these you may be able to register to file yourself.

Nope, I point out their screw ups as quickly as I point out those of others.  They refuse to see theirs of course, but then again, you seem to be in the same boat.

Maybe if you shout and stamp your feet it'll start to work.  We seem to be at that stage going by your ranting.

TBWG,

If I go through the process for a METV I get a screen similar to the one you posted in post 4, but with a "Choose File" box just above the blank image.  This seems to be missing in your pic.

Try clicking in the space where this is shown in my pic.  Might also be worth clearing cache and cookies if this doesn't work.

23 minutes ago, Nordude said:

Well, I'm not working and earning money. If that was the case, it would be easy for me to get a work visa. I'm a skilled IT worker, but I'm not here for work. And I don't want to stay for five years, so the Elite Visa would be very expensive for something I potentially can get for free now.

Saying your not this, that or the other does not change the fact that you are not a tourist either unfortunately.

1 hour ago, dave s said:

It has not offered me the opportunity to scan my passport with the camera. I would have checked before posting whether it now does so . . .

I would suggest "picnic" is the appropriate response. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_error

Here's a screenshot clearly showing the prompt for camera usage.

2 hours ago, dave s said:

Whether it is easy or hard to add GPS data to a transmission . . . .  it is no use if it is never used.

So logically from your statement, when it is used it will be of use.  That's good you recognise it could be some use, even if you personally can't see a reason for it.  I can.

2 hours ago, dave s said:

My point was, that this app has caused endless frustration for people by being zero help when something is wrong; go back and look through discussion after discussion. The author had time to write GPS code (for no earthly reason that you've suggested, but you need to apologize that maybe there is some reason), but no time at all to write a simple, meaningful error message about anything else.

Again, I agree it's a pretty crappy app and that others have said so.  However, I was initially responding to your post on the permissions required which was just wrong in so many ways.  And as before, just because you can't see a reason does not mean there isn't one.

2 hours ago, dave s said:

"I see nonsense in a post (yours in this case)" "your tin foil hat is too tight" So it's acceptable to insult people you disagree with, rather that address the concerns? OK, how about "treetops has an ugly sister", or "his mother wears army boots"? At least for some people, in some circumstances, this system is just plain broken. It has been for years. And immigration does not care. And you saying maybe there's a reason for it (without suggesting anything) doesn't fix the problems.

I took being called an "apologist for any and all Thai stupidity" as being derogatory so responded in kind.  Don't dish it out if you're too precious to accept it back.

In summary, there is nothing wrong and plenty right about this app asking for the permissions it does, despite the fact it has so many other flaws.  Your inability to see this does not make it wrong.

I don't deny it's a bit of a messy app, but you questioned the permissions.  When I run the app it offers me the opportunity to scan my passport (MRZ) for which it needs the camera.  Why would you not want that?

Tagging GPS location data onto a transmisssion is easy enough, and even if it's not checked on submission it may still be valuable.  Saying it does not hurt anything is presumptious and all it means is you can't think of a reason for it.  Others with a different perspective perhaps could.

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. . . as you apologists for any and all Thai stupidity like to rattle on about . .

I'm closer to the other extreme from being an apologist, but if I see nonsense in a post (yours in this case) I may be inclined to point it out.  Your point on being wary of permissions is valid, but in this case I think it's just your tin foil hat is too tight.

5 minutes ago, dave s said:

And why on earth does it need these permissions?

 

A 90 day report requires no photographs, and nothing in the user interface offers to take any pictures.

 

Why does it need either the current course or fine location? Can I do a report while standing in Phitsanulak, but not from Chiang Mai? How stupid is that?

 

Why does it need to read or modify file storage? Most of the information involved hardly ever changes, so once you figure out the right voodoo to get your request accepted, it would be nice to save all the crap on disk for the next annoying 90 report, if nothing else but to prevent typos while re-entering data. But is there such a useful feature? No way.

The camera can be used  to scan the Machine Readable Zone of your passport rather than typing in the details.

I don't know about the others, but it may make temporary files as you step through the process and need to store them, thus needing access to memory.  Location - inside Thailand would be logical, as any reason to report when you're not inside Thailand would be highly dubious.

Why do you think it doesn't need these permissions?

10 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

what permissions does it ask for? 

This should save you the 30 seconds it takes to look it up.

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I get this screen which allows scrolling down in the different fields.  Do you see anything like that when you touch the area that originally said dd/mm/yyyy?

10 hours ago, SteveK said:

It does not.

The pic in post 4 shows the documents requiremed as displayed by the registration website, in Thai and English.  Do you require something else?

I changed plans to avoid UTP just a couple of months ago due to reports of taxis etc being scared to go on airport grounds, as well as the "official" shared minibus reportedly insisting there were no shared buses and they had to be used as private buses.

I'm not sure how accurate the reports were, or how recent, but same goes for the positive posts above.

I should have said, the above is for registering a house/condo as a foreign individual.  Other scenarios may  be different.