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Please note that different immigration offices use different paperwork.

https://www.google.com/search?q=tm+30+inside+a+passport&sca_esv=31c11a842872212b&hl=en&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACQVn0--UhWTCgxJ7Hsngyx5osMfQQfDSQ%3A1710230657725&source=hp&biw=1440&bih=739&ei=gQzwZfGPKqa64-EP7ImD4Ac&iflsig=ANes7DEAAAAAZfAakYIqKyMZC4TmVAZuqjeGj_F2i_lJ&ved=0ahUKEwix1NfWoe6EAxUm3TgGHezEAHwQ4dUDCA8&uact=5&oq=tm+30+inside+a+passport&gs_lp=EgNpbWciF3RtIDMwIGluc2lkZSBhIHBhc3Nwb3J0SLCGAVC8E1i7gQFwAXgAkAEAmAHUAaABpBKqAQYxNi42LjG4AQPIAQD4AQGKAgtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ5gCCaAC2QeoAgrCAgcQIxjqAhgnwgIEECMYJ8ICBRAAGIAEwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgsQABiABBiKBRixA8ICBBAAGB7CAgcQABiABBgYmAMXkgcFNS4zLjGgB9Yl&sclient=img#imgrc=9uVNaokN8oPBAM

6 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

Pretty sure you know the answer to that question,

No. Care to enlighten us?

4 minutes ago, bbi1 said:

Immigration puts the TM30 receipt stapled to the last page of your passport, when you go to them to lodge your TM30. That's the 1st thing they check for when applying for extensions in the future.

100% correct.

1 hour ago, sqwakvfr said:

it's actually a receipt and I have had one stapled to my passport for years. 

Same goes for me and anyone else doing it legally at an IO.

2 hours ago, biervoormij said:

I don't think you are required to have a TM30 in your passport.

Yes you do. Those that use an agent do not is my understanding. Which shows how crooked the Thais immigration are.

Why do farangs obtaining under the table Retirement Visas, and 90 day reports, not have to have to have a TM30 in their passports? Just curios like.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/126305169748

This might give you some idea. Doesn't post to Thailand but I'm sure the parts must be available here.

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What is TM30 notification?

The TM30 notification and its underlying laws are about the obligation of a landlord (housemaster, possessor, or manager) to report the stay of a foreigner (non-Thai national) in his/her property.

 

https://www.thaiembassy.com/thailand-visa/about-tm30-thailand#:~:text=The TM30 notification and its,) in his%2Fher property.

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The above article is  managed by Siam Legal
International - a law firm in Thailand

19 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

Can you provide evidence of that?

Yes

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Notification form for accepting foreigners to stay For the home owner The owner or possessor of the dwelling (TM.30) consists of two parts (2 sheets) of documents. The first part is filling in the details of the owner of the house and the location of the place where the foreigners stay. The second part is the list of names. Foreigners staying in
Filling in details in Form TM.30 Part 2, please complete all fields. Mainly look at the passport of the foreign person. Due to the details of foreign persons which foreigners write before moving to stay are often incorrect And filling in must be done by typing or writing. If it is writing, write it in BLOCK LETTER and be careful in filling it out as follows:
1. Name of the alien. The space between first name, middle name and last name must be clearly visible.
2. Passport number. If there are letters in front Or behind the number, write it down as well.
3. Incoming card number field. Fill in the arrival card number (TM.6 card) which is attached to the passport. By filling in the same as
4. Entering the passport number, that is, if there are letters Please fill in the letters as well.
5. Entry date means the date the foreigner entered the Kingdom of Thailand. For the day of stay Fill in the form on the front page of the notification for accepting foreigners to stay.

The official will check the information in the TM.30 form. Upon inspection, it is found that the information has been filled in correctly and completely. The official receives the notification and tears the lower part of the TM.30 form for the informant to keep.

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/

29 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:

Here is the link to the immigration website and the wording of section is different from your quote, and says responsibility is the owner or occupant.

The article you posted must be the worst article for grammatically English. Go look at the errors in it.

2 hours ago, john donson said:

so my mom will check in a hotel for the tm30, they got upset and said they would refuse that too

They can't. Who got fined at the end of the day.

53 minutes ago, fulhamster said:

It is when the landlord doesn't file one

No it is not. Immigration officers must love you. You save them having to do the leg work.

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The TM30 Notification in Thailand

 

ThaiEmbassy.com

https://www.thaiembassy.com › thailand-visa › about-t...

 

 

 

Who should do the notification? Officially and practically, the responsibility to report the stay of a foreigner rests with the host: the landlord of a property 

 

4 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

 

The N.S.4. J or Chanote is a certificate of true ownership for land and the only true ownership land title deed. 

Well done.

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

where you're residing and a copy of the Chanute for your property

Do you actually know what a 'chanote' is?

'Chanute' is actually a town in SE Kansas.

2 hours ago, Presnock said:

they dropped that in favor of

making the ex-pat responsible for TM30 if a Thai

landlord won't do it.

You can provide proof that if a Thai landlord will not file a TM30 that it then becomes responsibility of the expat to submit it????? 

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Who is responsible for TM30?

 

Property owners in Thailand are responsible for registering all non-Thai nationals residing in their properties.

 

On 3/9/2024 at 7:39 PM, tee1eel said:

At immigration I was told (I hadn't noticed) I need to show them proof that the landlord owns the property I'm renting

The OP is a newbie and mixed up. He doesn't have to prove the landlord owns the property. That's for immigration and the landlord to sort out.  

Liquorice In the op's initial post he does not state that he was refused a 'visa'. You are reading into something that isn't true.

2 hours ago, Emath86 said:

- copy of TM6 departure card

No such thing these day.

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The temporary suspension of the TM6 arrival/departure card started in June 2022.

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

Well, you have now!

No I haven't. Who 's been refused a visa?

27 minutes ago, mokwit said:

 

If yor landlord cant or wont provide, tjst is your problrem and you likely may mot be able to extend your visa.

No it is not your problem. In nearly 20 years I've never heard of anyone being refused a visa cuz the landlord refuses to fill out a TM30.

3 minutes ago, tee1eel said:

Someone I know just paid them 3,000 to transfer stamps into his new passport....

 

Free service. But in my case if the officer had done the transfer without trying to rob me I may have well give him a tip.

A couple of years back I had to have the stamps in my old passport transferred into my new one. The officer said to me '500 Baht'. I told him I wasn't gonna pay.  And I didn't. Grow some before you enter an IO. They're not gonna shoot you.

40 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Unfortunately Immigration have made non compliance by landlords the extension applicants problem.

Of course they have, because it's easier to get a farang to part with 500 Baht than it is to get Somchai to comply to the laws of the land. 

57 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

 

Yeah.. Every 90  days I have to report my address.

Exactly.

6 hours ago, proton said:

why do they need TM 30 when they have TM47 every 90 days anyway?

I agree. TM30 is not the OP's problem.

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Who should do the notification?

Officially and practically, the responsibility to report the stay of a foreigner rests with the host: the landlord of a property, the hotel or the service apartment.