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Just grab a decent looking taxi off the street and negotiate a price.  Also, there are drivers and taxi services that hang around the hotels that offer that service.  Can also try use Grap App as someone else suggested.  And then there are the buses which are the cheapest option and leave every 30-60 minutes from Ekamai which is on the skytrain route.  You have many options at different prices and levels of convenience.

23 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

"Holiday Inn Express" on Soi Buakhao.

Booking.com says open since April 23, 2019.

I doubt it, but it was open in late July when I passed by.

Kind of upscale for this neighborhood 

 

Don't mix up with the regular Holiday Inn.

 

Just seen that it is on the list in post above.

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

 

A quick google of "new hotels in Pattaya" shows this site.  New, 2017-2019

https://www.travel-penang-malaysia.com/new-hotels-in-pattaya.html

Holiday Inn Express is opened as far as I can tell.  Looks decent from the outside.  It's right on Buakao so might be a little noisy if facing the street.

I have walked around Navana nature resort.  Really nice place surrounded by gardens and greenery.  I'm sure it's not cheap.  Out of the way if you're not driving but lots of baht busses going by to Pattaya. The beach and view of Laem Chabang port is not so great but everything else about that place looks nice.

It's obvious that AIS does not want to make some of these deals easy to get and yet some people here are acting like this stuff is obvious and easy when it's practically changing weekly. I pretty much gave up and just buy whatever the MyAIS app gives me as options.

There is no unlimited data anymore for existing customers as far as I know.  At least none AIS wants to make easy to get.  And I don't think people are willing to get new SIMs and numbers in order to get some of these deals so it's basically a non-starter for most people.

Yea, maybe they still call it unlimited on some lower speed plans. If you do some basic math you will quickly realize why they can call lower speed plans unlimited.  Because even if you are using it 24/7 at top speed, the lower speed limits you to the same or less data than just getting a capped data at full speed plan.

5 hours ago, Ron jeremy said:

...I may need glasses, but I am not seeing the place packed with falang customers.

I guess so.  But what do I know. I was there and you were not.

4 hours ago, yogi100 said:

It's also sometimes referred to as The Tin Cup Cafe.

 

Just before you come to Sugar Sugar on the other side of the road.

That sounds like the place.  I just call it "Hole in the Wall".  I used to go there all the time but not anymore.  At least it's not a problem getting a table anymore or having to share it with someone since they raised their prices.

22 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

At Shabu we had to wait 25 min, those folks always do a bang up business.

I didn't even bother to take a picture of Shabusuki because yes, it's almost always full and like shooting fish in a barrel trying to prove a point with that place.  Even the one at Harbor seems to do ok.

On 10/15/2019 at 1:44 AM, yogi100 said:

 

I patronise the Thai Hole in the Wall cafe in Bukhaow down towards LKM because it's good grub and affordable just like CCs.

If you are talking about the place I think you are talking about,  they raised their prices.  So not such a good deal anymore and, as you would expect, not as busy anymore as a result. 

On 10/14/2019 at 10:44 PM, johng said:

They say a picture speaks a thousand words ????

 

Any way T21, I'm pretty sure there  have/will be some shops closed  on Tokyo floor   I saw the "gaming arcade" had gone and a few food outlets ( beer,Indian,Chinese and burger ) nearby that had no customers on the 3 occasions I have been there.

 

Yes a picture is worth a thousand words.  How about midweek lunch pictures.  So not the busiest time.  That would be Saturdays/Sundays around 6pm where it's probably 5x busier than this.  The pictures don't necessarily show it but I would say a lot of these restaurants were around 3/4 full or more.  Each picture a different restaurant.

So now the serial pessimists will say "buh..but not enough farangs" or something.  Because how can a Mall in Thailand survive with mostly just Thais?  And if I posted pictures of all the Farangs around Pattaya all over the place right now (like I did on another thread) they willl just try to find other reasons spin it negative.  Because that's what a lot of guys who spend far to much time on this board live for, apparently.

57 minutes ago, johng said:

????

 

Those pictures are all of Central.  This thread is about T21.  But don't let that stop you from trying to turn this thread into another "Pattaya is doomed" tired baseless whine session.

10 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Sadly for you the carrying cost for a mall owner or a shop owner are much higher then their monthly electricity bill.

personally I haven’t seen it busy there with shoppers like in TM21 Bkk so I doubt its profitable at this stage.

Again a nice mall but many orher malls nearby and with the focus on Indian tourists  I foresee dark clouds.

I am talking about the building and land owners.  Not the shop owners. The fact you are trying to mix the two like it's the same thing shows how little you actually understand about it.

18 minutes ago, WaveHunter said:

I had no idea that my starting this thread simply to celebrate the visual "fun" of Terminal 21 would generate 9 pages of Blah-Blah-Blah nonsense.  KInd of sad really ????

 

True that.  I hope the moderators shut it down like they did all the other Pattaya is doomed threads.  There is nothing of any value being posted here.

On 10/12/2019 at 10:06 PM, morrobay said:

Just because it's normal for Thailand does not make it normal. Oh great defender/apologist for Pattaya/thais, you shall not be forgotten. 

???  

8 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:

Well its ridiculous that you and him claim knowledge and real information about the financial future of a mall based on that u seen some visitors inside. In reality u know completely nothing about the financial situation of that place !!

 

Good point.  Just like you.  The difference is that we are here and go to the mall and see the people walking around spending money there.  That mall is doing just fine.  But just like other malls, some shops and restaurants are not busy and will likely be replaced by something else eventually.  Just like at Central. Just like at Royal, which, btw is not nearly as busy as the other two malls and yet it still survives after all these years.  Just like Avenue btw.  

What a lot of you don't seem to realize is that carrying costs in Thailand are almost nothing.  They just need to make enough to pay the power bill and that's about it.

But don't let that get in the way of your incessant nonsense predictions about how everything is doomed that you people are almost ALWAYS wrong about year after year, decade after decade.

52 minutes ago, Kenchamp said:

Never trusted those life time membership deals.

What, you don't think a gym can sell one time lifetime memberships and keep earning a profit?  Pfffft, you people with your basic math skills think you know it all.

I see more Tonys Gym signs around Pattaya where a gym no longer exists than actual still functioning Tony's Gyms.  And it appears he is still using that same 20 year old picture of himself.  Isn't he like in his 60's now or something.

8 hours ago, sunnyboy2018 said:

If 50% closed We would NOT be losing a variety of choice. I repeat that the lazy formula of footie and hand sup music is NO CHOICE at all. Most Pattaya bars are undifferentiated,  mediocre,  lazy badly run, cliches. A sad reflection of their clientele. I can think of less than 10 well designed bars in Pattaya.....As for irish theme pubs! Just dreadful...a hangover from 70s Britain. And the constant drivel of black 'dance' music from the MTV charts have no place in a bar. Any bar that closes deserves to close for pandering to the lowest common denominator of entertainment......and driving out discerning customers with money. I view the closure of <deleted> bars as a protest and boycott which is finally beginning to bite. Some idiot bar owners think they must must let the bar girls dictate music policy to keep them happy!! <deleted>!

You seem to really hate Thailand.  Are you even here or do you even still come back?  If so why?  So you can keep complaining?

1 hour ago, morrobay said:

Indeed and it's also a daytime horror show . I would be surprised if any visitors coming for beach days are going to last long. And it's going to be tough season for Beach road businesses. 

A HORROR SHOW!!!! NIGHTMARE!!!!

You guys are hilarious.   Oh oh, look at this horror show/nightmare at the beach.  Pattaya is DOOMED!  Dooooooomed!

7 hours ago, fhickson said:

anyone seen the construction all along beach road at night with open trenches and uncapped rebar.

 

unbelievable. a virtual suicide pit for unsuspecting drunks stumbling around. no signage or barriers.

Hyperbole much?  I guess you haven't been to Thailand before or are just trying get into the "Pattaya is doomed" spirit around here.  It's just normal construction.  If you notice, they don't wear ear protection or steel toed boots either.  I don't think Thais are concerned with drunks doing stupid things and signage is certainly not going to stop that.

13 hours ago, fhickson said:

i ate a cheap charlies tonight. decent food, prices and service.

 

what more are you looking for? someplace where regulars are there each time like the tv show cheers? or where they recognize you each time by name?

 

not sure how you could improve on cheap charlies price and food for the ham and spuds meal at 125 baht.

I have been going to Hungry Hippo just a little ways down the road from there. From what I have been told, Hippo food is a little better for about the same price.  Fairly big portions.

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That's misleading.

I go quite often and the crowds are healthy. 

As far as business overlap yes there is some of that but there are also several stores and restaurants there that are totally unique in town. 

There is always some turnover in mall businesses but so far not very much at all at T21.

You're kidding.  Misleading opinions from internet rando's just pull stuff out of their sphincters?  I don't believe it!  Can't be true!!!

I had to verify it for myself.  Yup, people just walking around.  Restaurants TOTALLY empty.  T21 totally dead, doomed, dooooooooooooooomeddddddd!  Only low end Chinese and Indian tourists.  You never see farangs anywhere, ever!  I know it's true because a few internet randos here said so.

Buakao a ghost down.  Bars all empty.  Pattaya is doomed.  6 months and it won't exist anymore.  You can take that to the bank!  Only low end Chinese and Indian tourists.  High end suffering.  I know it's true because some rando here said so.

I got a table at Triangle bar all to myself tonight.  The bar was only maybe 3/4 full.  According to internet randos here that is a clear sign of the Pattaya tourist apocalypse.  So Pattaya is doomed. Case closed.  Stick a fork in it.  Full stop.  The end!!!