James105

So no extra funding then, which is causing ever more voter regret and meltdowns from the 1 in 5 who voted for Labour. So in just a few short months he has lost the working class, the pensioners, the middle class who send their kids to private schools and now the left who worship on the alter of the NHS and demand ever more taxpayer sacrifices. For what it is worth this is the first sensible thing he has said. There are tens of thousands of managers, middle managers, paper shufflers, regulators, diversity officers etc who work in the NHS and if all of them disappeared overnight nobody would notice and the NHS would (probably) have an extra £50bn to play with. I believe that they still to this day use fax machines which just highlights the level of incompetence of these people on much higher salaries than the PM who are in charge of actually running the NHS.

It's difficult to believe but this is not parody or satire: Its from a real article from a serious newspaper. https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/sadiq-khan-prisoners-should-jump-queue-for-housing-jq3t7xv5x Whoever coined the term "crime doesn't pay" clearly did not envisage the clowns that run the UK today getting into power.

It's weird how they use the answer "£22bn black hole" as their tedious answer to every single question, yet when the financial times asked for some details about this they now don't want to talk about it. https://www.ft.com/content/7f686444-7036-4efc-82c5-971b0f3929fa "The UK Treasury is refusing to provide key details of the £22bn fiscal “black hole” that chancellor Rachel Reeves claims to have discovered, with officials insisting they need more time to ensure the figures are accurate."

Ah so you are saying it could be difficult, and the current government is too weak to attempt this. That is your argument for this?

Which half? Enlighten me as to why we cannot release foreign nationals early to deport them, but we can release UK nationals early to cause mayhem.

Deport foreign nationals who are in prison. Keep UK nationals in prison. 10,000 spaces freed up. It's so ridiculously simple. You are welcome.

Yet more Labour voter regret. Other than the tribalist loons everybody hates the nasty party now. Hopefully there is something left to rebuild in 5 years time so the recovery from this disaster can begin when these clowns leave the big top.

Its like scenes from a Batman movie where Joker has released all the prisoners from the Asylum to cause mayhem on the streets. Anyone with even a fraction of a working brain would first look at the 10,000 foreign nationals residing in prison and simply deport as many of them as possible back to their home countries rather than this.

I made a joke about corruption in Africa based on the utter nonsense/stupidity of the clowns in government sending £11.6bn of UK taxpayers money there expecting to get any kind of return on it so no I won't be supplying a link to what was a very obvious joke, although it is possible it was only obvious to those with a double digit IQ. I can however supply links on how many pensioners Labour expected to die if winter fuel allowance was removed though if you would like to see yet another one of those?

How about you provide a link that shows Africa is not corrupt and every single penny of that money will be spent on climate change.

They knew about it before they did the following: 1. Gave away £9bn to inflation busting public sector pay rises. This could have been £1.4bn less with zero impact 2. Gave yet another £3bn to Ukraine. This could have been £1.4bn less with zero impact 3. Pledged £11.6bn to climate change in Africa. This could have been £11.6bn less but would mean 11 less African billionaires but otherwise would have zero impact. Choices comrade, choices. They cannot complain about black holes when they give so much money taxpayers money away and they could have chosen not to kill thousands of pensioners this winter.

Yes they do have to complete a form to get pension credits. It's a 243 question form that is impossible for the poorest, oldest, most vulnerable are not able to complete. "The DWP estimates that around 880,000 households eligible for Pension Credit do not claim it." https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10094/#:~:text=The DWP estimates that around,Credit do not claim it. If those 880,000 of the poorest, most vulnerable all claim pension credit then removing the fuel allowance would make no savings. It is a policy that relies on the most vulnerable to be too vulnerable to complete the complex form. It's a callous, nasty policy voted for by the nasty party, and is the reason that this nasty party will be responsible for thousands of premature deaths this winter if they do not backtrack on this. The tories are not responsible for Labour spaffing £9bn on inflation busting public sector pay rises. They are not responsible for Labour promising £3bn to Ukraine. The Tories are not responsible for Labours pledge to donate £11.6bn to Africa for 'climate change'. The only party responsible for every premature death that occurs this winter due to this policy is Labour.

Still holding the party line eh comrade, even though it is a policy that only saves money if the poorest and most vulnerable do not fill out the 243 question form to get the pension credits they are entitled to? There was a reason this was a universal benefit as it was understood that too many vulnerable old people cannot complete that lengthy application process, even though they would be entitled to it. So Labours figures which save a measly £1.3bn are based on the fact they know the most vulnerable will not be able to cope with applying for pension credits and are actually relying on the most vulnerable, poorest people not applying for it. They literally voted to kill old people before their time. Labour are a truly nasty party.

So the nasty party voted to take away the winter fuel allowance which according to their own review will kill 4000 pensioners before their time. Even your comrades at the guardian are aghast at this. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/sep/10/keir-starmer-rachel-reeves-britain-pensioners-winter-fuel-allowance There is a huge amount of voter regret from the 1 in 5 people who actually voted for Labour, so at least this nasty, hypocritical little clown show will be gone after a single term.

This is a flat out lie. They are policing based on how scared they are of being called racist or how scared they are of receiving the wrath of the cultural enrichers the UK has let into the country. It's easy to arrest that lady who made a hurty word facebook post, not so easy to arrest someone who is calling islamists who are calling for the genocide of jews or who wish to rape their daughters. If they policed these hate marches the same way they did the white people marches the level of violence towards the police would be off the scale.

It will be voteD on todaY. They are behaving even worse than it appears they are: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/winter-fuel-payment-starmer-reeves-b2609520.html "Labour refuses to publish impact assessment of winter fuel payment cuts until after MPs have voted" So to be clear. They are forcing Labour MPs to vote to remove the winter fuel allowance and will not release the impact assessment on this measure until after they have voted, thereby forcing them to vote a particular way on something without all the details. This is going beyond clown level politics now.

Sounds like they need all the help they can get to capture him then from the public which should be easy enough as nobody wants a monster like this in their vicinity. All we need is a name and location to get started. Oh wait

It always has been this way. Even in Thailand more people die from cold related deaths than heat related deaths. https://ourworldindata.org/part-one-how-many-people-die-from-extreme-temperatures-and-how-could-this-change-in-the-future

The current circumstances are that fuel is more expensive than in 2017 and the number of deaths are likely to be significantly higher than in 2017. It is the same policy. Everyone from the far-left to the right knows that this is a stupid policy that at best will only save £1.4bn and at worst will do nothing if all those that can claim pension credits do claim pension credits. The only people who do not seem to realise that this policy is stupid is the Labour cabinet and tribalist morons. If it wasn't a stupid policy then Labour would let it's MPs have a free vote on this. Instead they are forcing all their MPs to have on their permanent record that they voted to take away pensioners winter fuel allowance which led to thousands of old people dying before their time as they couldn't afford to heat their homes.

Government is about choices. Let's review 2 of their choices. 1. They have increased train drivers salaries (who are already in the top 9% of earners) by 15%. 2. They have removed the winter fuel allowance from the bottom 1%. So yes, based on these choices I do believe the government should be accused of killing people. I hope someone takes them to court for corporate manslaughter when the inevitable deaths highlighted in the Labour review are then highlighted by the media come winter. Do you think that train drivers already on £65,000+ are more deserving than pensioners on just £11,300 of governmental support?

From your own "fact check" link: Claim: Labour’s own analysis said 4,000 pensioners could die if winter fuel payments are cut Verdict: True Also from the same link: "On Sunday, Mr McDonnell was asked if he believed some pensioners “will die” as a result of what Rachel Reeves is proposing, and he told LBC: “Yes. That’s not me speaking.” So what do you think of people like Starmer who knowingly plan to implement a policy that will kill pensioners before their time?

It was a Labour generated review, you can't blame the Tories who didn't implement a policy on this one. Let's try again. What do you think of Starmer knowingly implementing a policy that their own research said would kill 4000 old people before their time? For a comparison, Harold Shipman only managed to kill 284 over a period of 30 years.

Do you ever read the links that you think support your mental gymnastics: "At the time, then-prime minister Theresa May said the payments would be removed from all but the poorest pensioners." It is the same policy but it wasn't implemented, probably due to the knowledge from Labours study telling them that 4000 people would die if they implemented it. The Tories were not callous enough to implement it. So what do you think of Starmer knowingly implementing a policy that their own research said would kill 4000 old people before their time? For a comparison, Harold Shipman only managed to kill 284 over a period of 30 years.

This one is the original Guardian article about it: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/05/tory-winter-fuel-allowance-cuts-puts-4000-lives-at-risk-claims-labour They had the comments open so you can see what your comrades said about the Tories when they were contemplating implementing the exact same policy which is quite amusing. Keir Starmer knows it will kill 4000 people before their time and is going ahead with it. What kind of person does that?

Before Musk disinformation such as ludicrous claims that men can change their sex and become women was allowed to spread freely and anyone who said otherwise was quite literally banned. People are now allowed to state scientific facts to counter this nonsense.