AndrewMciver

21 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

It was possible. One case out of thousands.

 

I have no idea if Thailand   has tested its  reagents or where they obtained the reagents used in the tests. It is possible that the reagents were bad. it is also possible that the tests were not administered properly. The swabs used must be of a specific type of polyester on a metal tip.  There may have been a defect in the swabs.

 

In the early phase of Covid19 the reagents were a source of considerable concern. Much of it was sourced from China.

 

 

CHINA !!!!!!!!!!!!

Simple go watch these youtube videos. 

Guests who are meant to be in quarantine are chatting and socialising with hotel employers - especially during the 1 hour out door exercise they get. 

If the guest or the employer have the virus they will pass it on to each other. 

Just really bizarre and an obvious flaw. 

4 minutes ago, shdmn said:

#2 not possible as Thais don't have it.  It's only the dirty foreigners bringing it in.  They are to blame.  /s

He might have sneaked out of quarantine and gone to Khao San Road and played decks with a criminal DJ. 

3 hours ago, Derek B said:

Maybe the negative results were inaccurate.

But he was in quarantine for 14 days. He would have been positive sometime during that period, and had at least 2 tests. 

It was either :

1) two flawed tests

2) he left quarantine and was actively around the city 

3) he caught it during quarantine with someone at the hotel 

15 hours ago, bwpage3 said:

How is it 3 Thai's just traveled to Japan and tested positive with Covid?

 

How did they get out of Suvarnabhumi airport with Covid?

 

 

Did they get covid on arrival in Japan - in essence when were they tested?

Secondly, how long was their trip to Thailand?

I am hoping for a deal, but this whole 'breaking an international agreement' is a whole load of horse manure. 

I remember being in Japan last year when Trump threw out the The Trans-Pacific Partnership that Obama had agreed a few years earlier. Not a single feacal plop was done. 

The Paris Climate accord treaty also broken. 

Kyoto protocol also broken. 

If the EU really want to hurt the UK, all they have to do is threaten them with a block on importing their goods. That would seriously <deleted> the UK up. 

The problem with the UK, is they have no room for negotiation or bargaining. Any attempts to go down a hardcore no deal route would mean the short term destruction would be horrific. So far the EU have played nice (most likely because they don't want to alienate the UK population who in generations to come may look to rejoin), and i am not sure if they would be inclined to get nasty by banning all UK goods (which they have threatened to do this morning with soundbites) - but if they did the UK would be screwed.

It's a posturing isn't it. The UK want to play hardball. Ireland are just an excuse to keep the UK tied closely. But the UK really screwed up by the delicate situation of Ireland. 

Is Ireland still an issue though for people in Ireland? 

Essentially we are back to where we were last year. I can't quite fathom what the point of the year long period is from last year to now is all about. 

4 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

There have been a few documented cases of a far longer incubation period than 14 days in some other countries so its possible he did bring it over with him, seeing as out of over 1000 players and staff tested that he was the only one testing positive then this seems likely to me but obviously its possible he caught it here to.

I've been watching some of these people in quarantine in ASQ hotels. 

Some are mixing with hotel staff after a few days, and alot are mixing after their second test a week later - when they are usually let out of their rooms for an hour or so exercise around hotel grounds. Some hotels are even letting guests linger around all evening, getting coffees and meals. 

If one of those workers in these quarantine hotels has the virus, they could easily pass it on. 

If there is covid in Thailand we would have heard of it by now .... even if they aren't testing, there would foreigners out there who were catching this virus and reporting it. 

As it is, i've yet to see any foreigner come out and say they got the virus (except this DJ criminal last week). 

Even if you factor in low testing and mix in a conspiracy of not reporting - you have to admit in the early stages they were reporting cases and deaths. 

Whilst i do agree i find it impossible to believe there is no covid in Thailand ... if it is in circulation it's in very small numbers. 

9 hours ago, Dap said:

Another 7. More found positive on a daily basis.

These hospitals must be raking it in .... 100,000 dollar insurance policies that foreigners have to take out. Put them on board with non tested Thai's. Great money making machine here. 

10 hours ago, samtab said:

oh for Thai, but how can a foreigner fly here if he has covid ? from which country is he allowed to fly, and why is he so stupid to fly if he has covid ?

 

real question 1

You take a test 72 hours before flying.  You may get the virus after you take the test and when take your flight and arrive in Thailand. However, even if you catch the virus during these 72 hours you usually aren't showing symptoms and (i may well be wrong) but as you asymptomatic (ie not coughing, or displaing a temperature) for the first 5 days, so the 72 hours before flying is pretty ideal. 

The issue with thai's not having to test before boarding flights is dangerous and quite frankly utterly ridiculous. If you like in the UK, USA, or anywhere Europe you can afford to get a test. In no way should foreigners be placed on these flights - but i suppose a few infections from non Thai's whilst in quarantine here and there are good for the hospitals that are raking it in with the insurance policies these foreigners have to get. 

My insurance policy is solid.

So these quarantine hospitals .... what am i to expect?

LOL worst case scenario doom merchant here. 

36 minutes ago, BritTim said:

The total of new positive cases reported yesterday was seven bringing the total to 27 since September 1st. Thailand reports that there are currently 86 active cases. That would certainly suggest a stay in hospital of weeks, but rarely months. I am not aware of any sources that give a detailed breakdown of the numbers.

27 since September 1st .... any estimates how many repatriation flights there have been in that period ? Would 20-30 be a true estimate? So on average 1 person per flight is getting infected. Say each place carries 250 passengers - 1 in 250 chance. 

Emirates flights perhaps will be safer, with less Thai's on board travelling without taking covid tests. 

28 minutes ago, BritTim said:

The total of new positive cases reported yesterday was seven bringing the total to 27 since September 1st. Thailand reports that there are currently 86 active cases. That would certainly suggest a stay in hospital of weeks, but rarely months. I am not aware of any sources that give a detailed breakdown of the numbers.

This would then suggest there are some in hospital that have been there longer than 11 days. 

This is all looking rather dicey. 

How long would a hospital stay be on average?

No way in hell could this be condoned, especially if they are seeking eradication. 

Japan is still getting outbreaks everywhere, same with Korea. Who can trust China's figures?

Stupid beyond belief 

This is going back to the 'bubble' horse manure thing again. 

I would not mind having to spend another 15 days in a hotel room. But the thought of going to a hospital, especially if you had no symptoms, then staying there till you tested negative would be a horrendous ordeal. 

I've read up tales of people testing positives for weeks on end ! 

11 minutes ago, hotandsticky said:

If you recall there were at least a couple of cases where the quarantinee was tested ahead of 'release' and tested positive. They had to start the cycle all over again I believe.

 I don't recall this. You have a link for the story?

1 minute ago, ukrules said:

Based on what I've read if you test positive then you're transferred to hospital for 'the treatment'.

 

Even if there's nothing wrong with you.....think about that a little...

 

I doubt you would be allowed to roam free until you test negative which could be quite some time.

Good grief 

I'm sure i've read a thread on this somewhere before, but can't seem to find it. Just curious, if the worst does happen, and you end up testing positive whilst in quarantine ... what happens?

Are there different procedures for those that are ill, and those are showing no symptoms?

Where do you stand on quarantine, would you then have to do another 15 days? Where would you do these extra days, in hospital or in your hotel?

Scary. 

Just now, Jumbo1968 said:

I am in the category allowed to return but what I am asking is how you can get a COE if using an Emirates flight when all the repatriation flights 3 of are Thai Air from Heathrow ?

What cetogory do you fall under? 

1 minute ago, kingofthemountain said:

It's interesting it's the first time the Thai embassy in London is not pushing a foreign returnee

on a costly business seat on one of the rare Thai airways flight.

For some reasons AndrewMciver doesn't want to share the loop used to find his way

i presume it's a very particular case, he is in a secret service, or he has a high ranking

relationship in the Thai  team, something like that....

My parents live in Thailand, so i was issued a CoE. Wasn't not sharing, just trying to get answers to my question, without it being derailed by other questions.

Getting back on to Thailand has been soul destroying difficult. It's nothing something i would honestly recommend to anyone. 

15 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Andrew who is issuing you with the COE ?

Jumbo ... are you going back to Thailand on tourism? There are a few categories that allow a return, eg those that have family there (my parents are there), certain jobs (like teaching), etc You cannot go to Thailand on tourism. 

If you want to go for a holiday, you will have to wait for the 'phuket model' that may open up soon. 

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

 

Exactly the above Andrew.

 

Firstly, congratulations on securing your CoE and Repatriation flight.

I’m surprised to see the Embassy are now repatriating people with Emirates, but it shows the flights and options are opening up. 

 

With regards to the Covid-19 Test <72hrs before departure. Your situation is somewhat unique as repatriation flights from the UK have been direct flights up until now. Thus, the best advice you can get on this is from those who’ve flown further (i.e. from the US). 

 

As majakob007 mentioned above - play it safe.

 

If you were to take a Covid-19 test that guarantees 48 hrs results you will still get the results on the day you fly. 

Best option is to find a place which will give you results in 24 hrs and take the test on the Tuesday, get the results on the Wednesday.

 

Same day test results: 

https://www.thelondongeneralpractice.com/covid-19-testing/

 

 

Thanks Richard ... your early postings was what kept me going, so thank you very much. 

I will check on that clinic you mentioned. 

Okay ... so my flight leaves Thursday. I am now going to take the test on Tuesday. 

This will mean a 24 hour test. Very risky though.