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It's worth mentioning, that while America invented rock music, the UK PERFECTED it. Rock and roll had gone down the tubes when the Beatles and the Rolling Stones lifted it back up and made it better than it was. I'm a Yank, but the best music always seems to come from Great Britain.

Because drunkenness is part of "Thai culture".   

19 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

It's a two-way street... availability creates demand.. demand drives availability... 
it needs to be tackled from both directions..

unfortunately the "availability" is operated by lets say "influential" people, some of whom dress in civvies others who done the "brown" !!

The monies too good to stop the rot & as far as a directive from the government to put an end to it.. that will never happen as it has a direct bearing on Thailands GDP !!!!

Underage sexual predation is a very sick and insane situation. It's very distressing to know that just by the fact of living here that I am associated with such criminal behaviour. Very sad for the victims. Even sadder is the fact that my 45 year old GF takes a rather neutral attitude toward such perversion. If ordinary Thais feel this way, what is the answer??  Very troubling.

17 minutes ago, greenchair said:

I agree. 

It's either Aussies or another attack on British or Yanks. Aussies get equal time.

8 minutes ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

Jealousy - they just cannot compete in Thailand -- no matter the age.  

I am not sure that it was jealousy. The individual who accused me was lesbian. It was no less disturbing to be described in those terms.

2 minutes ago, jimn said:

Unbelieveable. Honestly I havnt read all 8 pages but I am sick and tired of people putting down my adopted home town. I have been coming to Pattaya for 11 years now and have a good circle of Farang friends. None of these look for underage girls, there are plenty of small overage girls if thats your fancy. The fact is that in these 11 years I have never seen or been offered an underage girl in Pattaya. I go out and frequent the bars and gogo's on Walking Streen and Soi LK and people they are not there. If they were I would have seen it. So those putting Pattaya down. Please get off its back. It is a great vibrant town with great bars and restaurants. If you dont like it go somewhere else.

You don't have to look for underage girls to be considered a pedophile. My girlfriend is 45 and a feminist tried to tell me that because I am 67, that age difference constitutes "pedophilia". I fail to understand the reasoning but many woman see it this way. Comments??

1 hour ago, bkkcanuck8 said:

If society has a zero-tolerance towards it regardless of who/where it is done - it is up to you, me and anyone here to bring it to the attention of authorities of interest.  If someone see someone go with someone underage - and you know them and their nationality -- report it to both that nations authorities and to local authorities.  It might not lead anywhere, but at least the authorities have a starting point to investigate further and keep investigative notes -- which in the future could be used as probable cause for a search warrant.

They can be prosecuted in the USA and the UK as well, There should be no "safe haven" for pedophiles. Thailand seems to have a bad reputation in this regard, but penalties are harsh here for this type of crime. Zero tolerance.

6 minutes ago, alanrchase said:

Can anyone name a popular band that started post 2000? Can't think of one myself.

Maroon 5 is a great band. I don't know how long they've been around, though.

Depends on whether you're an old git (like me) or a young bloke. There is no accounting for taste. My father liked some music that I like as well. Expecting a 22 year old to like the same music as a man my age (67) is complete insanity.

Another attempt to link underage sex with Walking Street and the mainstream sex trade. Police will take full advantage of this and most likely target some innocent farangs. Then, the TVF Avengers will be screaming for blood. Guilty until proved innocent and milked of all money.

Mine is 45 and complains that three times a week is not enough.   I am 67 and thrice weekly is enough for me. She is attractive but says Thai men have no interest in a woman her age and neither do farangs. I think she is wrong. Thai women have low self-esteem.

What REALLY steams me, is the fact that I have watched the IO officer SHRED the "Extra Information" forms almost as soon as he thought I wasn't watching. Proof positive that it is done for no other reason than to satisfy the ego of some IO flunky in Bangkok.

22 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Why not print them 2 sided. It is easily done. Better that taking the chance they will not accept it.

Trying to explain to a Thai who speaks no English that you need the form printed on both sides is a losing game. They should KNOW this since they have to do government paperwork too. But they DON'T. I never thought it would be so difficult to tell someone that I need page one and page two on the same sheet of paper. Seems obvious but it is complicated by the inability of Thais to accept anything but their own line of thought.

Huge mistake. How can the police be this stupid??

9 hours ago, Oxx said:

One thing they can be fussy about is double sided forms.  They can reject them if the sides printed on separate sheets of paper.

I simply staple the forms together. There has been no problem at Chonburi Immigration. I can't speak for the other offices. There's probably one that would not allow this. I can't see why, though.

Yes, Thailand should definitely invest in this, since there are no poor people to take care of now that they've become a utopian socialist paradise.  

One more factoid: Tramadol is NOT an  opioid painkiller. It works in a similar fashion. My physician told me that it is "about one molecule removed" from the opioid painkillers. The hysteria surrounding this drug would be incredible if it weren't for the general insanity surrounding ANY preparation which kills pain, relaxes or contributes to a more peaceful existence. The rest of the world needs to stop blindly following the US drug warriors around and make their own decisions. Even the USA is looking at something of a civil war over marijuana, which is getting press because of medicinal use. Trump's DOJ appointee, Jeff Sessions is an old-line "drug warrior" who watched "Reefer Madness" too many times and thinks it's reality.

On 11/6/2017 at 3:21 PM, FritsSikkink said:

She is British, what has that to do with a Navy Seal Team?  

America and the UK kiss each others backsides. That's why the UK tends to follow the USA into every pointless war that they can dream up. It is not inconceivable that Navy Seals (or the UK equivalent) could be brought to bear on egregious cases of abuse such as this one. The "weird withdrawal symptoms" mentioned by one poster here, include RETURN OF PAIN. Yes, very "weird" when you cease to take a drug which is helping your existence become more bearable. I take Tramadol sparingly along with paracetamol for back pain. The opinion of my US doctor seems to conflict with the medical experts here on TVF which seem to have rather hysterical views on its value. Doc says it is not addictive and has no recreational potential. His word against the TVF Medical Board. My local doctor here in Thailand is a Swiss expat who concurs with my US doctor on Tramadol. He only dispenses it in 100 milligram tabs, as opposed to the weak 50 mg tabs dispensed by some pharmacies here. Most pharmacies which do not have a licensed pharmacist on duty at all times, have ceased to carry Tramadol at all. They don't want to deal with the paperwork and the ever-changing stance of the Thai government.

24 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Why should they???

 

No doubt they have asked for leniency, but they were not an over the counter none prescription pain killer, she would have gone to a lot of trouble to acquire the drugs knowing full well they were not legal in the UK without a prescription, and I can not believe that she was not aware that they were totally illegal in Egypt.

 

Say an Egyptian was caught entering the UK with a large quantity of drugs, we should let them go because some guy from the Egyptian embassy goes around banging his fists on desks?

I would assume that drug mules from Egypt would be trafficking in heroin or something truly dangerous. Tramadol is a drug that was prescribed by my doctor in the USA, precisely because it is NOT addictive and certainly is not a conduit to "get high". The hysteria that precipitated its status in Egypt is likely the result of an "overkill" approach to pressure from US agencies that are involved in the ludicrous "war on drugs" (a failure by any standard). The lack of balls by governments all over the world in regard to US pressure is shameful. They have made it extremely difficult for American citizens to open a bank account here and they seemingly need to meddle in every aspect of nearly everything else that doesn't concern them. Sad that US funds rule the roost when foreign governments used to tell them to mind their own business.

5 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

1) She also obtained them illegally in the UK
2) Her husband has been banned from entering the UK due to drug related convictions in Egypt
3) As in most countries, opiates are only available by prescription and obtaining them elsewhere is illegal even in the USA, UK, Australia..
4) Having 300 is absolutely distribution possession.
5) She answered no to the question on her Egyptian entry form written in English "Do you have any prescription medications to declare?"

British Embassy should demand her release, but they won't. The British and American diplomats are the most worthless crew of looters on the public payroll. What, exactly, are they paid to do??

Dude doesn't really understand the concept of democracy, does he??  

19 hours ago, Jonmarleesco said:

Confiscation of your passport would have been interesting. As far as I know, BS apart, he wouldn't have had the right. Not least because it's not your passport; it's your government's.

What would have been "interesting" would be seeing what happened if he told the officer that he didn't have the right because the passport belongs to his government. Thai police are superior to all foreign governments, if you don't believe it.......ASK THEM.

10 hours ago, mikebell said:

I envy you.  Sattahip cop arriving ten minutes later, decided I was at fault for allowing two Thai tearaways to crash into my stationary car at 90kph.  If I didn't pay he would confiscate my passport; would make getting my next visa difficult.  His verdict cost me about 80K + my wife pawned her gold to pay him under the table.

A very familiar situation in Thailand. "If the farang had not been in Thailand, this would have never happened."  By extension, "if a frog had wings, he wouldn't bump his ass."   

5 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Spot on!

 

Also, nitpicking about the slightest bit of misbehavior that a foreigner makes, and then they ( the expats) are all on TV screaming about ' banning them for life ' etc ' throw them in jail ' and what is and isn't ' against the laws '  of Thailand., implying that Thailand is some great people and culture far superior to any other!

 

A country where you can run over a kill a policeman but if you have the cash and a family name you are exempt from the justice system. A country where their top policemen can visit another country such as Japan, with a gun and bullets in his luggage and get away with it because of his position. A country where high ranking officials get caught, whilst visiting other countries stealing pictures from hotels, then pulls rank and political favors to escape justice when they are caught.A country where the second in command is flashing watches off costing millions and millions of baht but never declared these assets, a crime others would lose everything for and have their assets seized. A country where it is almost a hobby and foreigners can be cheated out of all their assets by people supposed to be respected, in high legal positions complicit in this type of corruption. Finally, a country where two foreign men can be scapegoated and convicted of murder and given the death sentence when it is an ' open secret ' that they are innocent.

 

But let's give this foreigner ten lashes, throw him in IDC and ban him for life for going shirtless!..... Pathetic!

Brilliant observation. A country without any clear moral compass wants to crucify foreigners for going shirtless. Amazing.

1 hour ago, OJAS said:

Which is.....?

Poor people coming there with inadequate incomes. It's just the reverse in Thailand.